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Old 06-07-2006, 10:40 PM
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It would be nice to see Albert escort Jazmin to some events in Monaco, but I don't know about The Rose Ball. I think it's likely she will be at the Grand Prix, well at least I hope she will. It would be nice for her to start having a relationship with her aunts and cousins (as well as her father). I mean if Caroline and Stephanie were my aunts (especially Caroline! I heart her!) I'd REALLY want to meet and have some kind of bond with them. I don't know, maybe I'm dreaming a sappy dream, but it would be nice for them to welcome Jazmin and be a big happy family....

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You are incorrect on not being related. The Grimaldis are related to the Kings of Norway, Sweden, Belgians, Spain, Hellenes, Albanians, Queen of Netherlands, Denmark, Great Britain, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Bavaria, Archduke of Austria via Johann Georg II Prince of Anhalt-Dessau to name a few. Prince Louis' mothers family were heirs to the Throne of Scotland which became united with England under James I becoming known as Great Britain and that lineage connects him to the Hanover's. Albert's Godmother was the late Queen Victoria-Eugénia of Spain.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know they were related to all those royals.

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Old 06-07-2006, 10:50 PM
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Posted by Purple Platinum from Hola. I edited the photo to get a close up. As soon as I can I will post a close up of her mother I have had for years. I have always said she looks more like her mother. I think what people are seeing is she has blonde hair like Grace and she has the softer features and prettier than her mother. This should be good she won't show her age as much as she grows older.


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Thanks for the info, I didn't know they were related to all those royals.

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You're welcome thats only a piece of the pie.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:05 PM
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I feel really bad for Jazmin right now. She's a 13-year old girl who already is dealing with the effects of puberty and now she has to deal with the press about her faraway father. She should be gossiping about boys with her friends instead of dealing with photographers and bodyguards. She is such a young girl to be dealing with this right now and I hope Albert does right by her and gets to know her. Jazmin seems very bright and talented and I think Albert should be proud to call her his own.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:18 PM
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I think the romanticism of some popular movies is affecting reality. We all wish for Albert to be closer to the kids he is leaving around but these children, innocent as they are, have no say in the rule of Monaco. Their mothers can day dream all they want but, as a reminder this is the...

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Old 06-07-2006, 11:30 PM
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[quote=Toledo]I think the romanticism of some popular movies are affecting reality. We all wish for Albert to be closer to the kids he is leaving around but these children, innocent as they are, have no say in the rule of Monaco. Their mothers can day dream all they want but, as a reminder this is the...

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I know that Jazmin and Alexandre have no say in the rule of Monaco. But that doesn't mean that Jazmin can't meet with Albert and maybe get some questions answered and just get to know each other. I think that Tamara and Albert should find a way to work together to make sure that Jazmin is as comfortable as possible through these times. It was not her choice to be born into this position. The teenage years are fun but that's usually when you're most influenced by your surroundings. I just feel bad for her that's all.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:34 PM
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I feel really bad for Jazmin right now. She's a 13-year old girl who already is dealing with the effects of puberty and now she has to deal with the press about her faraway father. She should be gossiping about boys with her friends instead of dealing with photographers and bodyguards. She is such a young girl to be dealing with this right now and I hope Albert does right by her and gets to know her. Jazmin seems very bright and talented and I think Albert should be proud to call her his own.
You are right it is and the demand from the public not considering the child's welfare meaning safety once she was acknowledged and forcing her to live with body guards instead of freedom to go as she chose has stolen the peace from the rest of her life. Now she faces the problems Albert's sisters had and Stephanie has does a man want me for who I am or what they can get? Same applies to her girlfriends from now on.

I regret not being able to convince people that Albert wasn't her father in the hope enough would believe it and drop the issue and then the child would have been given until she was 18. The welfare of the child should always come first and it wasn't anyone's business if he was the father or not but the parents and the child. She has the next 4 years in high school, beginning to date, dances, proms its going to be harder on her now then it would have been as a normal regular teenager. Let me add she will be teased and used by kids and that's the cruel reality of not only teenagers but even adults will.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:41 PM
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You are both right. And I'll add that we will see the press targeting more on every step Jazmin Grace makes than on the advetures of Nicole and Alexander. In terms of press interest, the Costes seem to be yesterday's news in more ways than one now that the press hounds (or hyenas) are ready to circle on Jazmin Grace and Tamara Rotolo.

As I said, best thing for her is to pack and go where she can be close to her father and get the security needed. Tamara can visit.

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It would be nice to see Albert escort Jazmin to some events in Monaco, but I don't know about The Rose Ball. I think it's likely she will be at the Grand Prix, well at least I hope she will. It would be nice for her to start having a relationship with her aunts and cousins (as well as her father). I mean if Caroline and Stephanie were my aunts (especially Caroline! I heart her!) I'd REALLY want to meet and have some kind of bond with them. I don't know, maybe I'm dreaming a sappy dream, but it would be nice for them to welcome Jazmin and be a big happy family....

Ani
I have the impression Caroline has her hands full with the kids, and that includes her husband. Stephanie is Stephanie and I doubt she will ever change. So she would be the fun crazy aunt to hang around with. But the focus should be on Albert, Jazmin Grace spent 14 years without him, he needs to catch up.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:54 PM
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You are both right. And I'll add that we will see the press targeting more on every step Jazmin Grace makes than on the advetures of Nicole and Alexander. In terms of press interest, the Costes seem to be yesterdays news in more ways than one now that the press hounds (or hyenas) are ready to circle on Jazmin Grace and Tamara Rotolo.

As I said, best thing for her is to pack and go where she can be close to her father and get the security needed. Tamara can visit.
I think the press is more interested in Jazmin because she's older, a girl, and "fresh meat." Alexandre is too young for the press to have any real fun with. Jazmin is the perfect age for the tabloids to be speculating about her personal life. It must be depressing for her to realize that everytime a girl is nice to her or a boy wants to ask her to a dance she has to second guess their motives.
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is there a possibility Albert will adopt one of them (alexandre or jazmin)? i mean it happened before with Prince Louis to daughter Princess Charlotte right? or he will just let andrea rule in the future?

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Old 06-08-2006, 12:51 AM
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is there a possibility Albert will adopt one of them (alexandre or jazmin)? i mean it happened before with Prince Louis to daughter Princess Charlotte right? or he will just let andrea rule in the future?

sorry i'm just new...
Never say never . I sincerely doubt it though. It would be unfair to adopt one and not the other but if he adopted both, then Albert would have to deal with both mothers even more and I don't think he wants that. I think the best solution for Albert is to financially support his children and to become more involved in their lives if possible. Maybe in the future he'll invite Jazmin to the Rose Ball or something to publicly show off his daughter.

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Old 06-08-2006, 03:09 AM
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I think the press is more interested in Jazmin because she's older, a girl, and "fresh meat." Alexandre is too young for the press to have any real fun with. Jazmin is the perfect age for the tabloids to be speculating about her personal life. It must be depressing for her to realize that everytime a girl is nice to her or a boy wants to ask her to a dance she has to second guess their motives.
I hope the tabloids don't start speculating about Jazmins personal life. Being 14 is hard enough without making regular appearences in the tabloids. Anyway I hope Albert tries to get to know Jazmin I think that would be a good thing for Jazmin in the long run
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:12 AM
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I hope the tabloids don't start speculating about Jazmins personal life. Being 14 is hard enough without making regular appearences in the tabloids. Anyway I hope Albert tries to get to know Jazmin I think that would be a good thing for Jazmin in the long run



Yes I agree lise, I used to teach 14 year olds and it's difficult enough dealing with life and relationships at that age without the added burden of being a celebrity ... which is one of the reasons I am shocked at reckless royal parents who allow their children to be photographed.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:20 AM
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Yes I agree lise, I used to teach 14 year olds and it's difficult enough dealing with life and relationships at that age without the added burden of being a celebrity ... which is one of the reasons I am shocked at reckless royal parents who allow their children to be photographed.
Some royal parents do seem to throw their children to the lions a.k.a. the press but sometimes it cannot be helped. If your child is walking in public from Point A to Point B, there's nothing you really can do except shield your child with bodyguards but that also creates problems. Especially with improving technology, it's becoming harder to protect children from the eyes of the media. You can have your picture taken without you even knowing (cell phone cameras or a really good zoom lense, it's scary!) I just hope Jazmin is given good advice when it comes to handling the media.
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You're sweet soCal_Girl, thank you for your message :)


Royal parents should insist that they will prosecute any and all persons/organizations who invade the privacy and endanger the life and welfare of their children. I agree with you that she deserves - at a very minimum - advice on how to react when she is being hounded.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:44 AM
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Yes I agree lise, I used to teach 14 year olds and it's difficult enough dealing with life and relationships at that age without the added burden of being a celebrity ... which is one of the reasons I am shocked at reckless royal parents who allow their children to be photographed.
Sometimes I don't think the royal parents can help it if their children are photographed I think if your in a public place there's not much you can do about it and the advice on being hounded excellent idea the sooner the better.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:55 AM
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Jazmin Grace Grimaldi Part III

As I said, best thing for her is to pack and go where she can be close to her father and get the security needed. Tamara can visit.



What makes anyone think that Jazmin Grace would want to leave her mother to go be with Albert??? That doesn't make sense. She doesn't know him! That would be a real shock for a girl her age. I can't imagine leaving my mother to go live with people I don't even know and leaving the only parent I know behind.

Also, I'm in Palm Desert and I can tell you that there is not a lot of fuss going on around here. Nobody cares about Monaco because there are too many big celebs coming to the desert and living here.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:18 AM
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Also, I'm in Palm Desert and I can tell you that there is not a lot of fuss going on around here. Nobody cares about Monaco because there are too many big celebs coming to the desert and living here.
I think you are spot on starnightsky, but it just annoys me that she is an innocent child
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:23 AM
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I think you are spot on starnightsky, but it just annoys me that she is an innocent child
Well, maybe she has now something in common with other kids in her school. You know, being surrounded by the kids of celebs can be pretty annoying when you are "just" the kid of a real estate agent.

If she is as bright as the media says then now she has the chance to get the celeb bonus herself when it comes to applying for a renown university. And she has lived with a kind of notoriety before - now people know that her mother did not make the famous father of her up but that it is the truth. Better now then it was before for her, I'd guess. :)
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There's no point in adopting them because they are already his recognized children, and even if adopted, after the Constitutional change of 2002, they wouldn't be in the succession line anyway. The Constitution was changed for this exact purpose...
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:47 AM
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originally posted by Grace There's no point in adopting them because they are already his recognized children, and even if adopted, after the Constitutional change of 2002, they wouldn't be in the succession line anyway. The Constitution was changed for this exact purpose
I know this would be the case for Alex, but Jasmine was born before the Constitution change of 2002. I think maybe she could be put in line if PA adopted her.
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