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Old 06-07-2006, 09:07 AM
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Wow, in this picture she has a resemblance to princess grace IMO.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:29 AM
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Wow, in this picture she has a resemblance to princess grace IMO.
Sorry, I don't see Princess Grace here. I think she looks like her mother. Last night on The Insider, they of course forced the whole Princess Grace angle on us. They barely mentioned Albert (go figure). They had 2 pictures of JGG. One was of when TR confronted PA in Wyoming. The profile shot of JGG looks very mush like a profile shot of PA when he was a baby. (The picture is on this site somewhere-PG is holding him facing her and they are both smiling).It was remarkable. However the other shot, she is a little girl all dressed up with her hair done up and they say she looks like PG. Sorry, I just don't see it at all.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:46 AM
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I agree: she looks like her Mom. However IMO she has the same "allure" as Caroline.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:51 AM
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I have to wonder, what was the psychological role of Prince Rainier in Albert's history? Prince Rainier venerated the institution of marriage, and set enormously high standards (a wife who became one of the most admired in the world, and never a breath of scandal in his whole married life), he may have been something of a control freak about Albert's part in Monaco's future; i.e. someone who was impossible for Albert to please with regard to finding a wife. Rainier was also publicly quoted more than once as saying that he would hand the reigns over to Albert as soon as Albert was ready. As we all know he never did. What kind of message does that send to the world? Anyone under that kind of pressure might take some risks in other parts of his life. Not an excuse, just humanly understandable. And, in my opinion, ultimately forgivable.
Well, this is true-but Rainier was no stranger to "sowing wild oats" as he lived quite openly with actress Gisele Pascal for several years before his marriage to Grace. So, while he may have had impossibly high standards, I'm sure he was more tolerant of Albert than is popularly known.

I also think that Rainier's refusal to hand over the reigns to Albert had less to do with Albert's readiness and more with the fact that Rainier just wasn't ready to step aside. His entire life revolved around being Sovereign Prince, it kept him busy and, likely, his duties helped distract him from the loneliness of life without Grace.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:04 AM
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Jazmin Grace looks lovely on the third pic where she wearing a purple skirt. She has great smile..other than that it's hard to judge whether she resembles Grace or not. We'd have to see a real close-up.. Maybe one day...:)
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:02 AM
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It will be interesting to see what the rest of her life will be like.
Will she socialize with members of Europeon Royal Families or not?
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:12 AM
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Illegitimate children of other monarchs don't, so I'd say it'd be very unlikely.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:06 PM
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Well, this is true-but Rainier was no stranger to "sowing wild oats" as he lived quite openly with actress Gisele Pascal for several years before his marriage to Grace. So, while he may have had impossibly high standards, I'm sure he was more tolerant of Albert than is popularly known.

I also think that Rainier's refusal to hand over the reigns to Albert had less to do with Albert's readiness and more with the fact that Rainier just wasn't ready to step aside. His entire life revolved around being Sovereign Prince, it kept him busy and, likely, his duties helped distract him from the loneliness of life without Grace.

I don't see a single man's one long-term monogamous relationship with an unmarried woman as sowing wild oats, just a potential life-partner that didn't work out.

I agree with you about the reasons that Rainier stayed in power until the end of his life. Stil, from the outside, the fact of his saying he would relinquish to Albert and then not doing it sends the Albert-can't-cut-it-yet message just the same. I don't mean to overstate this, I just think it's an element in the life Albert has led as an adult.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:20 PM
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I don't see why the other Royal House whould have any reason to invite/socialise with Jazmin, she has no royal godparents and the Grimaldi's are not related to any other familes and I can't recall any vaction/play-dates between the Albert, Caroline and Steph with of the Dutch, Spanish,Greek,Danish, Brit kids. Pss Grace did give interviews mentioning her kids were half-American and would go to camp and vacation with her family in the states.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:59 PM
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I don't see a single man's one long-term monogamous relationship with an unmarried woman as sowing wild oats, just a potential life-partner that didn't work out.
But, Rainier defied the conventions of the Catholic church to live with Pascal, which, given his later adherence to the strictures of the Church, was, so to speak, his "unconventional" period. He said himself that marriage with Pascal was something they both elected not to do, so it was not that they were living together with the idea that it would progress into marriage. So, I meant, and said badly, that Rainier perhaps understood Albert's tendency to be "unconventional" (i.e. having relationships in defiance of Catholic law) better than was popularly suspected.
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Old 06-07-2006, 06:46 PM
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I just hope this child is receiving therapy! She really needs it.
Does anyone else agree?
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:21 PM
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http://cbs13.com/topstories/local_story_153164314.html
I found this article to be fascinating. It really shows how much in common Jazmin has with her father, PA.----- might be in the genes:

Her winning science fair project---"Pure water or Pure hype"
She finished second in an essay contest ---"If I could use recycled materials ,I would..." (Both of these reflect PA's interest the environment)
She sang in a choir with Barry Manilow(PA was in the college glee club choir)
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:39 PM
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Jazmin Grace Grimaldi Part III

Albert should escort his daughter, Jazmin Grace, to next year's Rose Ball. Then he could also escort her to the Grand Prix and dinner. It's a win-win situation as long as Albert really is taking a real interest in his daughter! The publicity would also be wonderful. It's also called, "doing the right thing".
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:51 PM
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Albert should escort his daughter, Jazmin Grace, to next year's Rose Ball. Then he could also escort her to the Grand Prix and dinner. It's a win-win situation as long as Albert really is taking a real interest in his daughter! The publicity would also be wonderful. It's also called, "doing the right thing".
Absolutely. His daughter could be the true love of his life.
Lovers come and go--but this accomplished young lady is a part of him that he needs to get to know. Her graduation from 8th grade is next week. She needs her Dad--I think he needs her ,too.
He should already be so proud of her. I hope he accepts this unexpected life gift that could prove to save his spirit--if he allows it.
It's not too late PA-
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:07 PM
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Absolutely. His daughter could be the true love of his life.
Lovers come and go--but this accomplished young lady is a part of him that he needs to get to know. Her graduation from 8th grade is next week. She needs her Dad--I think he needs her ,too.
He should already be so proud of her. I hope he accepts this unexpected life gift that could prove to save his spirit--if he allows it.

It's not too late PA-
You are so right!!! Jazmin could be the best gift he's ever had. I hope he realizes this. She sounds like a dream daughter to me!!! Plus legitimate/illegitimate, she came into being the same way we all did. Her genetic makeup is no different than if he had been married to Tamara or not.

I don't know if anyone remembers but Princess Grace and Prince Rainier and their 3 kids, celebrated Grace and Rainier's 25th anniversary in the Palm Desert area!
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:13 PM
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originally posted by Starnightsky You are so right!!! Jazmin could be the best gift he's ever had. I hope he realizes this. She sounds like a dream daughter to me!!! Plus legitimate/illegitimate, she came into being the same way we all did. Her genetic makeup is no different than if he had been married to Tamara or not.
I hope he realizes how lucky he is to have such a hard working, educated and talented daughter. Having Jazmine at his side would really make him look good. Maybe its not to late to turn an unfortunate situation into a great one!
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:58 PM
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I hope he realizes how lucky he is to have such a hard working, educated and talented daughter. Having Jazmine at his side would really make him look good. Maybe its not to late to turn an unfortunate situation into a great one!
Totally agree I also hopes he does get to attend some of those school activities. And invite her to some of those events in monaco by his side or her grimaldi cousins
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:11 PM
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If you look closely at the palace website under family, you will only find PA, Caro and Steph. Other royals handle it similarly. In Norway only the King &Queen, Haakon, Mette Marit and their kids are considered as members of the royal family.
You're right, paca. Thanks. :) I just remember reading that one palace staff was asked how the others are referred to and the answer was "a member of the Princely Family." And that stuck in my mind.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:21 PM
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Albert should escort his daughter, Jazmin Grace, to next year's Rose Ball. Then he could also escort her to the Grand Prix and dinner. It's a win-win situation as long as Albert really is taking a real interest in his daughter! The publicity would also be wonderful. It's also called, "doing the right thing".
If Albert wants to be more participant on his daugther's life his biggest problem in the future will be making Tamara Rotolo stay away from the cameras. Seems she is the one who wants to be the focus of attention in those pictures and her daugther is but an escort. Do I detect in the near future Tamara posing more for the camera than her own daugther evading them? Absolutely. Just check out her counterpart Nicole and how is she enjoying her 'spotlight'.

I also don't see anything of Princess Grace in her. Princess Grace was a one of a kind creature from a Hollywood era that used to scout the most uniquely beautiful people on the face of the earth and make them stars. She looks like any typical teen her age, like a young Britney Spears when she was in the Mickey Mouse Club at the Disney Channel. The girl has posibilities, she is pretty but not glamorous pretty.

I don't know, but there is also a sadness I detect on those close ups, this girl needs her father and now that is so close she looks like awaiting something. Like people at a train station waiting for the train to arrive and take them someplace nicer. I don't know why I'm saying that, maybe I'm reading too much on those pictures but they give me a feeling of sadness in her eyes.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:27 PM
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I don't see why the other Royal House whould have any reason to invite/socialise with Jazmin, she has no royal godparents and the Grimaldi's are not related to any other familes and I can't recall any vaction/play-dates between the Albert, Caroline and Steph with of the Dutch, Spanish,Greek,Danish, Brit kids. Pss Grace did give interviews mentioning her kids were half-American and would go to camp and vacation with her family in the states.
You are incorrect on not being related. The Grimaldis are related to the Kings of Norway, Sweden, Belgians, Spain, Hellenes, Albanians, Queen of Netherlands, Denmark, Great Britain, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Bavaria, Archduke of Austria via Johann Georg II Prince of Anhalt-Dessau to name a few. Prince Louis' mothers family were heirs to the Throne of Scotland which became united with England under James I becoming known as Great Britain and that lineage connects him to the Hanover's. Albert's Godmother was the late Queen Victoria-Eugénia of Spain.
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