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Old 08-02-2005, 12:14 AM
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Oh, I have never heard of that, LadyMacAlpine. Thanks. But surely they have settled this paternity matter? They insisted on legitimizing Princess Charlotte, whereas the throne could've gone to the von Urachs of Germany, who were also Grimaldis (through Princess Florestine)......
Actually no it could only pass to a Monégasque and they were German why they made Charlotte legitimate since Louis didn't seem interested in marrying to have a legitimate heir. I don't like the use of the word produce an heir. Sounds like you are an animal open the stall and let the stud at the mare, colts preferred over filly's but we will take whatever comes out.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:21 AM
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wow....she is milking this for all its worth
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:59 AM
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Actually no it could only pass to a Monégasque and they were German why they made Charlotte legitimate since Louis didn't seem interested in marrying to have a legitimate heir. I don't like the use of the word produce an heir. Sounds like you are an animal open the stall and let the stud at the mare, colts preferred over filly's but we will take whatever comes out.
Oh, that makes sense. And you're right about the heir-animal connection.
Thanks, LadyMacAlpine. :)
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:09 AM
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Oh, that makes sense. And you're right about the heir-animal connection.
Thanks, LadyMacAlpine. :)
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:23 AM
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Vacation

Is Prince Albert on vacation like the other members of the family or has he stayed close to home?
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:42 PM
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Nice article...thanks
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:49 PM
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Late bloomer??? Try like ancient almost dead bloomer..
What I meant by this is that prince or no prince life is to short to sit around waiting for anyone's approval for anything especially your personal life. Of course you can find the love of your life in your 40's and up, marry and be happy but that also does not happen for many people either. If you really want something in life and don't act on it ever how will you ever get it? Life will pass you by and you'll be left wishing for what you could have had. If he's looking for the a woman who will fit the throne of Monaco perfectly or exceptionally well he'll never find her because she does not exist. Although there are potentially good candidates I'm sure, nobody's perfect, & that love factor seems to be what he's looking for. I do believe that Albert has had way more than his share of women than the average man and I'm guessing that one of them his at least captured his heart and is right for his throne, maybe in his mind he's still waiting for that perfect Grace that will never come...

I do believe that Albert feels that f he falters in any way Caroline will be there pick up the pieces for him ruling and hier wise which must be an incredible burden on her. She must worry for Andrea's future every moment of every day!
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:00 PM
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Now I'm nowhere near from France or Italy so I'm not really sure on this one but isn't illegal to publish nude photographs of a child? I'm guessing it could be called child pornography . Don't they have to atleast blurr the private areas? Good grief!

Lilla I don't think your a prude. I always make sure that my daughter is covered in public, on beaches, wherever....You never know who the peeping toms are. Nicole is not a fool she knows her son's is a press target now she should have been way more careful, unless she's trying to use her son to get a reaction out of Albert. The press should not have taken nude photos in my opinion!
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:53 PM
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Now I'm nowhere near from France or Italy so I'm not really sure on this one but isn't illegal to publish nude photographs of a child? I'm guessing it could be called child pornography . Don't they have to atleast blurr the private areas? Good grief!

Lilla I don't think your a prude. I always make sure that my daughter is covered in public, on beaches, wherever....You never know who the peeping toms are. Nicole is not a fool she knows her son's is a press target now she should have been way more careful, unless she's trying to use her son to get a reaction out of Albert. The press should not have taken nude photos in my opinion!
I think the laws in Europe are different from North America we are known to be more prudish in such things since topless sun bathing is rare. We have laws which don't even allow photographs of children in underwear for advertisement. Think we are the only ones to blur the private area's as well. Or maybe we aren't prudes but more moralist in what's considered acceptable. Not meaning they are wrong our standards are different. Maybe we are moral snobs to them.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:23 AM
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Aloha...got to say, I just think it's wrong to print pictures of little kids naked, but I don't think it was wrong for her to have him at the beach naked. I mean, I have a two year old and if I can catch him long enough to get his clothes changed after a beach outing I consider myself ahead. I guess one just wonders if she is trying to shield him from the media or if she's just letting them take pictures? You know, it's like grabbing headlines without having to pose for a photo shoot, makes her look innocent. And maybe she is innocent. It's conceivabe that she had no idea they were being photograped. The long lenses those guys carry are out of control. They could probably get pictures of outer space.:)

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Old 08-03-2005, 02:28 AM
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I think seeing bottomless babies/toddlers on the beach will seem prudish to many Americans due to their Puritan roots. Does that make sense?
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im sure its because of our Puritan roots that we do sound prudish. i cant lie,i think its was awful to take such a picture. goodness the kid is changing cloths why do we want to see that. i know i don't.
but to show u that not all americans are prudish. in columbus ohio there is a law that allows both men & women to go out in public shirtless. chest expose -n- everything
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:02 AM
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Naked little kids have always be a common sight on our beaches, and I see no harm in that. Actually nobody pays attention to them. Topless sun bathing has getting rarer here lately too, but I guess it's just a matter of "fashion". I heard that on certain beaches only ugly topless women get fined, which I find really stupid.

Advertisements with pictures of naked kids are also forbidden here. No minor pics can be published in mags without their parents' permission. The pics of princess Alexandra and of Steph's kids often appear blurry in Italian mags
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:24 PM
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In Toronto there is a fairly new new law where women can go out topless as well (I'm not sure of the ins and outs on it - the law is about 10 yrs old) but nobody actually does it. You may see the odd nude toddler at the beach who has broken free from his/her mothers embrace while changing, usually she's running after the child but other than that its really frowned upon. You never see nude photos of children here, not even blurred ones, at least I haven't. There pretty tough on that stuff.

I find it terrible that unattractive women may get fined Tosca. I mean really unattractive is defined by whose standards? Everyone is beautiful!
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:40 PM
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I think seeing bottomless babies/toddlers on the beach will seem prudish to many Americans due to their Puritan roots. Does that make sense?
I do not think all americans are prudy, certainly one can find very very puritan people anywhere in the world. And very very snobby ones everywhere too. I think everybody view is to be respected.:)

All I was saying was that since the child has a royal parent, it did not seem proper for him to have such a photo taken so easily. He is Prince Albert's son, so I think he should be given that space and respect, and I have never seen other children who have a royal parent with similar photo.

It is true maybe the mother did not know the camera was there.

Law of unintended consequences:p
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:43 PM
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Actually our puritan roots did us alot of good. Of course they wer harsh and weird in other senses, but for the most part puritanism made America vvery successful in such a short time.

As far as that pic, the photographers should not have taken that pic and published it.
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I was shocked to see the photo and would like to ask if it could be removed to show respect for Alexandre since apparently there is more then me who feel its inappropriate. Puritan I think many understand Genesis 3:21 and why Adam and Eve were clothed before they left Eden.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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I was not "offended" by naked Eric (I'm pretty hard to offend) I just think Mama needs to start doing a better job of protecting her child. Yeah, He's PA child but he is not going to enjoy the same protection as other royal children. (He's going to support the child and maybe visit but he did not want to have children with this woman and is not going to marry her) So, it's up to her to take up the reigns and see to it. Unlike other children those picutures are not likely to be stuck in a scrapbook, they are public.

As far as Americans being prudish, I think it has a lot to do with climate. On the beaches in the US is is Not uncommon to see tiny tiny suits, thongs whatever. It has to do with climate I think. Like here in Hawaii, lots of tiny swim suits but there are also tons and tons of high heals. Asian women can wear 6 inch heals to climb moutains. It's a cultural thing. King Kamehemeha, the Hawaiin king who united the islands of Hawaii, is almost always depicted with no shirt on.

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Old 08-03-2005, 10:30 PM
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It depends where you live I think I live on the Florida Gulf Coast and its against the law to wear thongs on some of our beaches. While it might be common in some area's to change your children in public it isn't in others. Feel the point is its disrespectful to have photographed Alexandre like that and someone made money off of it. Any idea what will be said later in his life? He will be teased in school. There should be a line drawn in the Forum as to what type of pictures are acceptable as what we say. The other Forums anything goes in conversations even swearing this one not as much is tolerated. Shows we have more class in my opinion. Such photo's would be blurred here. In France on a video they blurred Alexandre face. The other thread was closed why are we still on the subject anyway? Just wondering.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:37 PM
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Well, ok -- what else is going on with PA these days?

Anything exciting (besides regular government business)?

(I think the drawing on pg. 6 is really funny )
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