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Old 06-14-2005, 11:58 AM
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I used to avidly read the opinions on here and take them for fair and balanced ones, but i am now convinced that some people are are thoroughly convinced that Nicole is just a gold-digging flousie who is also a horrible underdeveloped woman, and a horrid mother. The appearance of a story in a magazine does not even remotely begin to shine enough light on the reality of this story. It's like no matter what some of you read about Nicole it just falls on deaf ears or it just further proves your justification. If Nicole said "i went to mcdonalds today" many of you would be like, "she's just greedy and wants to show the world that she has no money and has to feed her child on mcdonalds, she's just endangering her child blah blah blah". There was even an article that said her cousins had pictures and were the ones that started this whole exposee but most of you don't care about that................another one said before rainier died albert promised to register alex as his child to no avail, i mean they did a paternity test on her child and didn't even give her the papers.............and let's not forget that nicole hasn't received any money from this charade, all she's gotten is public knowledge of herself and her child which she has said is exactly what she wanted, acknowledgment that she exists and has a child who is a Grimaldi. I don't see anything wrong with that. If some of you woulda kept quiet and rolled over or play dead cuz your "baby daddy" doesn't want the disruption in his duties, then fine, that's your prerogative but there are others such as myself, who don't subscribe to that. I can't imagine keeping quiet for anybody. If I have a fling even with prince william and i get pregnant, he would have two choices and two choices only, u make the announcement or I make the announcement, that's it. And i might not even last 20 months at that..........

some of you should try to read things more objectively, but i guess since this is an albert forum, that's gonna be near impossible to find.
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:47 PM
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Well, Libradoll, some people have very narrow fields of vision when it comes to someone they really admire or have a "crush" on or whatever. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I just don't have that kind of "blind loyalty" to anyone - everyone's human. I have maintained all along that just because someone is royal doesn't make them and everything they do perfect. I still am of the opinion that IF Nicole is being honest about everything, Albert doesn't come across as looking very much like a "responsible adult" for the last 20 months - whether he was Crown Prince of Monaco, King of England, Brad Pitt, or whomever. I mean just by his supposedly repeatedly promising Nicole the notarized birth certificate and never following through with his promises. I have nothing against Albert - but when there is only one side of the story out there, that's all there is to go on. If he shows later that he's not the father and she's an insane liar, then my opinion will certainly be different from what it is leaning toward now. I have no problem with people believing her or not believing her, but we have no idea what kind of person she is and why she did what she did.
I have never "taken her side" necessarily, just tried to point out that there is obviously a lot more to this story than we know, and that just because we admire Albert doesn't make how he handles every situation perfect. Apparently a few people take exception to this (I actually am interested in the situation but certainly not concerned enough to get too freaked out over it :) )
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:56 PM
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dreed777, i feel the same way as you but when people continue to say horrid things about someone they don't know and a story they don't even have two sides on, it always bothers me and i always feel compelled to point out that there are two sides to a coin, especially when it concerns public figures that we don't really know. Nicole gets slaughtered here and sometimes i just wonder if she's an actual good person, this whole thing must kill her because it's so unfair. It seems like if you sleep with a royal there are only two ways you can end up:

1. celebrated princess
2. money-hungry greedy, unstable, jezebel of a woman
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:04 PM
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Well, Libradoll, some people have very narrow fields of vision when it comes to someone they really admire or have a "crush" on or whatever. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I just don't have that kind of "blind loyalty" to anyone - everyone's human. I have maintained all along that just because someone is royal doesn't make them and everything they do perfect. I still am of the opinion that IF Nicole is being honest about everything, Albert doesn't come across as looking very much like a "responsible adult" for the last 20 months - whether he was Crown Prince of Monaco, King of England, Brad Pitt, or whomever. I mean just by his supposedly repeatedly promising Nicole the notarized birth certificate and never following through with his promises. I have nothing against Albert - but when there is only one side of the story out there, that's all there is to go on. If he shows later that he's not the father and she's an insane liar, then my opinion will certainly be different from what it is leaning toward now. I have no problem with people believing her or not believing her, but we have no idea what kind of person she is and why she did what she did.
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I have never "taken her side" necessarily, just tried to point out that there is obviously a lot more to this story than we know, and that just because we admire Albert doesn't make how he handles every situation perfect. Apparently a few people take exception to this (I actually am interested in the situation but certainly not concerned enough to get too freaked out over it :) )


Your comment makes sense to me dreed777; I personally do not care so much either whether Albert has a child, married or not -- it's his own business.

No one is perfect and I know that as well. I just read her story -- the only one side that's out there, and in my opinion, as I look at her story very carefully, all the things she said just don't add up. That's my own opinion. And in actuality -- no body will probably ever know what things he told her; he may never expose the details of whatever private conversations they had -- if I were him, I would not either -- to me, it would be foul. But some people need to hear such things, just like some people feel a need to broadcast such things.

And at the end of the day, if what she claims is true, then Albert will handle it; he should take care of his business, I guess. No one is perfect. I've said it before, and I will state it again -- the boy currently is wanting for nothing; and he will probably be always in a better position material than most children and many adults in this world anyway (except for the privacy issue, but ok if that's the price he needs to pay, some people may feel it is completely worth it...)


There are certainly much more weighty issues out there to tell the truth...:)
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:10 PM
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Lillia, everything you stated makes very good sense to me, also. You seem to "take everything with a grain of salt" and be open-minded about things and think things through thoroughly. It's when people act close-minded and with tunnel-vision that I always try to point out that everything is not always black and white.
Libradoll, when you posted that you couldn't help but wonder if she is actually a good person - I would hope that she IS a good person or Albert wouldn't have had such a long-lasting relationship with her. :)
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Old 06-15-2005, 03:26 PM
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I believe Thierry Lacoste asked that question so that the public would question Nicole's motives, therefore placing her in a defensive position rather than offensive. This places Prince Albert in a better light if the story is true. The general public would then "jump on" examining "why" she did this (assuming it's true of course) and not the actual story itself as far as how Albert handled the situation. Like I said, their words are weighed carefully - these people are extremely intelligent and have thought out all the angles. Having come from a family and also married into a family with several politicians (mine beginning with my great-great-grandfather being a member of the House of Representatives) I am somewhat familiar with the spin doctor thing.:) Kinda like "let's make her look worse than she can make him look" by focusing on her motives and timing (which could have certainly been better).
One of the main reasons I believe Nicole's story is probably true, or somewhat true, (besides the fact that Albert was financially supporting her, of course) is that if Mr. Lacoste could make any statement at all (which he did, however vague) he could state that Albert is not Alexandre's father. Maybe I best follow up all this with "this is only my opinion, of course". LOL :)
I agree the lawyer wants Nicole to be viewed in a negative light, while the golden prince gets a pass on his behavior. In some way it's best that Nicole and Alex are out in the open. I strongly suspect that openness and full disclosure is one of Nicole Coste's true motivations. To Nicole's credit she exposed her unwise choices as well as Albert's.
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Old 06-15-2005, 04:19 PM
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I agree the lawyer wants Nicole to be viewed in a negative light, while the golden prince gets a pass on his behavior. In some way it's best that Nicole and Alex are out in the open. I strongly suspect that openness and full disclosure is one of Nicole Coste's true motivations. To Nicole's credit she exposed her unwise choices as well as Albert's.


That's a very good point; it is a point to understand that too -- it is a strange thing; I noticed a long time ago sometimes, not always, some wealty famous people do all sorts of things and in many cases, their actions are maybe glossed over and made a little, like it would be no big thing at all sometimes, just pat on the hand for it -- but they do certainly get a terrible and withering public attention that is not so nice and they have to live with the burn from all those things for a very long time because there is always somebody out there who would remember the action, true or not and trot it out for them again and again forever then keep examining the person and whatever they do from every possible angle because everything they say or do is of public record; and if someone else does not have all that, sometimes whatever they do -- it is the maybe same exact action -- it could be viewed as something that is the worst thing ever and they may also get alot of attention from the public too depending on what the thing is, but alot of times no one is looking so closely at the mistakes they make, unless they draw attention to themselves they get a chance to leave that past action behind. Unfair but that is how things seem to be sometimes

Good point queenallen. Maybe neither one of them are really getting a pass but I do not know

(but my own opinion still is the same for the both - I am sure the both of them will survive...:p.)
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:32 PM
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Why is the house called the pink palace? Is it a castle or just a big building? I've never seen it before.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:04 PM
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Prince Albert at Inauguration of Princess Grace Square

Inauguration of the Princess Grace of Monaco Square and Public Garden, in presence of her son Prince ALBERT of Monaco

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Old 06-16-2005, 07:45 PM
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Why is the house called the pink palace? Is it a castle or just a big building? I've never seen it before.
THE PRINCELY PALACE

Because it's a palace that's been painted pink. :)
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:10 PM
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Wow. It's very pink too. Thank you for the picture :)
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:26 PM
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It's time to start a new thread already! :)

You can find the the new thread here: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...114#post228114
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