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Old 06-10-2005, 12:15 AM
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why, why, and another why?

would albert’s lawyers really take the time to haul any of us into court. what would be gain by doing something like that? all we are doing is having a little fun kicking ideals around about what will happen to nicole, alex and what albert might say. providing we are not making any disparaging comments. why does albert have people who search the net?
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:37 AM
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would albert’s lawyers really take the time to haul any of us into court. what would be gain by doing something like that? all we are doing is having a little fun kicking ideals around about what will happen to nicole, alex and what albert might say. providing we are not making any disparaging comments. why does albert have people who search the net?
The press is on the Net reading. I had to go as far as change my name on the Net to be sure they didn't find me due to my ex in politics. They were after him for something I didn't want to be dragged into. There is the thing called slander if one of his people should come across something they can sue the Forum. Even Nicole could if they found something if it goes to far. Read the posting rules Julia made if you recall there is still a missing thread on Albert. It was removed by the Moderators for what was being said. Its why I try to be careful what I say if I am not willing to give up my source as back then.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:47 AM
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would albert’s lawyers really take the time to haul any of us into court. what would be gain by doing something like that? all we are doing is having a little fun kicking ideals around about what will happen to nicole, alex and what albert might say. providing we are not making any disparaging comments. why does albert have people who search the net?
Hum, I would serf the net if I were PA. It's a good way to get an "unofficial" opinion poll. Also, I would plant spies on boards just like ours to sew seeds for a positive opinion. Aren't I sneaky? See, the palace needs me as a stratagist....they just don't know it....

And I must agree she's in it for the money, but who knows who's paying her. I do not believe, if I read right, that anyone at the rock would release this kind of story to quite homosexual rumours. ( I might be confussed but I think this was implied.)....clarification please????
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:01 AM
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Oh, and as I understand the legal concepts of slander and liable. I think one of us would have to fabricate a big fat story that got picked up by other web sites and that did him real and provable harm. Slander is writing an untruth, liable is repeating an untruth

An example would be: one of us would have to have an affair with him, possibly father a child, and spill it to a national or international news organization. I think he actually does have grounds to sue her, or at least silence her because she has done harm to his reputation. Mother of my child or not, I would haul her into court if I were him. Because if he doesn't, every woman he's ever touched will be looking for a cash out.
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Hum, I would serf the net if I were PA. It's a good way to get an "unofficial" opinion poll. Also, I would plant spies on boards just like ours to sew seeds for a positive opinion. Aren't I sneaky? See, the palace needs me as a stratagist....they just don't know it....

And I must agree she's in it for the money, but who knows who's paying her. I do not believe, if I read right, that anyone at the rock would release this kind of story to quite homosexual rumours. ( I might be confussed but I think this was implied.)....clarification please????
I didn't hear that. Its been said by everyone who knows him that he isn't. Enough woman have claimed to have had sex with him only a fool (sorry for the use of that word) would think he wasn't into woman. It's far easier to think he is gay to explain why he hasn't married. He has been photographed naked with a gf and it was in the Tabloids. Photographed with a porn star (former Playboy bunny then porn) with his head in her breasts the night she claimed to have sex with him. He was set up for the photo and it didn't surface for years until she was a porn star released by her so I heard. Woman have hurt his reputation more then once for fame and money. To have been with Nicole so long he trusted her.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:23 AM
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Oh, and as I understand the legal concepts of slander and liable. I think one of us would have to fabricate a big fat story that got picked up by other web sites and that did him real and provable harm. Slander is writing an untruth, liable is repeating an untruth

An example would be: one of us would have to have an affair with him, possibly father a child, and spill it to a national or international news organization. I think he actually does have grounds to sue her, or at least silence her because she has done harm to his reputation. Mother of my child or not, I would haul her into court if I were him. Because if he doesn't, every woman he's ever touched will be looking for a cash out.
A couple of pages back I posted a photo of Nicole entering the court house with something over her head. May 12 I think it was after the story was released. I am still hoping due to what she did it will be found Albert really isn't his father that it was another woman trying to cash in on him. I admit the child looks like Albert but then as someone has said my child can pass as Albert's child too.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:01 AM
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Aloha, I think you misunderstood LadyMacAlpine, I think everyone knows he isn't gay too, I thought I had read something about the story being made up to end all gay rumours....I misread and probably did not clarify...sorry....

Yes, I remember the picture and actually went looking for it right after I posted and found it but, without any caption or explantion. Do you know why she was in court?

I had no idea about the porn star bunny photo. That's really horrible. I cannot blame him if he never marries.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:34 AM
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Surely Alberts advisors would know that if they sued some little peon on a message board for voicing an opinion it would just make the whole world angry (freedom of speech you know) and make Albert look quite childish and ridiculous. The press printing slanderous stories is another ballgame however. Now THAT could be construed as possibly causing damage to his reputation. I don't recall anything on this mb that I would consider slanderous. Besides, I think Albert has lots more important things in his life to be concerned with than what we may think! Nicole, however, may not. Maybe we better be more concerned with what we say about HER. :)
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:03 AM
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Incidentally, slander is extremely hard to prove. First of all, the one making the charge has to prove that what was said is not true. (For example, it would be impossible to prove that a poster's opinion is not actually his opinion-see what I mean? And no one here is stating things about Albert or Nicole "as fact") Next, if they DO prove it as untrue, then they have to prove that it damaged their reputation (obviously also VERY hard to prove if you're just talking about posters' opinions on a web board :) ).
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:04 AM
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so taken any of us into court because of slander would be pointless because none of us are rich and so u cant get blood from a turnip.
if albert & crew were to plant someone on the board to put him in a positive light is sad. thats if he wanted an honest view of himself. its always good to examine yourself, so that u can make needed changes. how else will you grow as a person or improve in your personality
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:25 PM
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What I read that the Grimaldis get upset about are when people have posted their addresses, email addresses, up-close pics of their private homes, etc.
Also, when people get obsessed and fancy themselves actually in love with them (NOT LIKE THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE KIDDING AROUND) and have never even met them, much less gotten to know them personally and privately. Those types of people can become very obsessive and dangerous. (I know this personally from an incident many years ago.)
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:09 PM
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Semisquare you totally misunderstood what I said and have gone off as Dreed777. It's not individuals that would be hauled into court but the owners of the Board. Semi you got me in trouble with a moderator months ago why the thread is missing. The Tabloids as the press feed on message boards for stories. You can believe it or not. I posted the features my child had comparing them to Albert and Stephanie which she does have and can pass as his daughter. I came back with an explanation so no one would think I was saying he was her father. I made a statement that I knew the press was reading the Board but not so is someone that talks to Albert leave it at that say whatever you like I don't care again I made a statement. I took the time to translate articles for you Semi as others have when in fact if you are on the Net have the same ability as we do to do it. I am sorry for your loss Semi but don't take it out on those who had considered you a friend.

BTW Julia just emailed me very busy and was asking how things were on the Board with Albert for anyone who was wondering how she is.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:15 PM
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sorry i miss understood u and i didnt mean to get anyone into trouble. i was just having some fun so i'll just shut my fingers up for a while
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I was just pointing out that if no one has been slanderous here, the owners of the forum have nothing to worry about. I didn't mean for you to get all upset, LadyMacAlpine! I thought this was all just friendly banter and didn't realize anyone was actually getting angry. Sorry about that!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe we shouldn't discuss the "slander" issue if people are getting sensitive about it.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:10 PM
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(quote)I hope the laywers keep this woman in court for years and years and years until her hair turns grey.(quote)
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well, lillia seeing that she likes to wear hair weaves(not that there is anything wrong with that) we will never know if her hair turns grey or not. because she'll buy somemore hair and slap it on top of her real hair. lol


hahahahaha!!! That is very funny. :p

I didn't notice she is wearing a wig. But ok.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:14 PM
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The press is on the Net reading. I had to go as far as change my name on the Net to be sure they didn't find me due to my ex in politics. They were after him for something I didn't want to be dragged into. There is the thing called slander if one of his people should come across something they can sue the Forum. Even Nicole could if they found something if it goes to far. Read the posting rules Julia made if you recall there is still a missing thread on Albert. It was removed by the Moderators for what was being said. Its why I try to be careful what I say if I am not willing to give up my source as back then.

Oh my goodness I never thought that someone in the press woulld have nothing better to do than go looking for things on the internet.

that surprises me alot.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:01 PM
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[QUOTE=LadyMacAlpine]I like these song lyrics from ABBA [QUOTE]

This is funny too -- it also reminds me of a song a friend of mine
really liked by a lady name Jenifer Holidays. I don't know the title
but there are the words for it.


And I am telling you
I'm not going.
You're the best man I'll ever know.
There's no way I can ever go,
No, no, no, no way,
No, no, no, no way I'm livin' without you.
I'm not livin' without you.
I don't want to be free.
I'm stayin',
I'm stayin',
And you, and you, you're gonna love me.
Ooh, you're gonna love me.

And I am telling you
I'm not going,
Even though the rough times are showing.
There's just no way,
There's no way.
We're part of the same place.
We're part of the same time.
We both share the same blood.
We both have the same mind.
And time and time we have so much to share,

No, no, no,
No, no, no,
I'm not wakin' up tomorrow mornin'
And findin' that there's nobody there.
Darling, there's no way,
No, no, no, no way I'm livin' without you.
I'm not livin' without you.
You see, there's just no way,
There's no way.

Tear down the mountains,
Yell, scream and shout.
You can say what you want,
I'm not walkin' out.
Stop all the rivers,
Push, strike, and kill.
I'm not gonna leave you,
There's no way I will.

And I am telling you
I'm not going.
You're the best man I'll ever know.
There's no way I can ever, ever go,
No, no, no, no way,
No, no, no, no way I'm livin' without you.
Oh, I'm not livin' without you,
I'm not livin' without you.
I don't wanna be free.
I'm stayin',
I'm stayin',
And you, and you,
You're gonna love me.
Oh, hey, you're gonna love me,
Yes, ah, ooh, ooh, love me,
Ooh, ooh, ooh, love me,
Love me,
Love me,
Love me,
Love me.
You're gonna love me.

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Very funny Lillia...I like it and,,,, oh so right on....
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Ok -- I am almost finished (I am very tired). Here is another piece. There is one last part, but later:p becuase I am tired at the moment and when I read it from the magazine (mai issue, le Point) my eyes are closing...

Aucune prevue
Si, donc, Alexandre a bien été reconnu chez le notaire Mahot de La Querantonnais, cela ferait de lui un héritier à part entière d’Albert II de Monaco. Et ce n’est pas rien. Si cela ne fait pas de lui un prince ni ne lui donne de place dans la succession dynastique, cela lui promet une vie confortable. Mais cet acte constraint également Nicole au silence. Elle n’a aucun droit d’en avoir copie. Aucune preuve, donc, de la paternité d’Albert. Ce que le Rocher, d’ailleurs, lui donne à comprendre. Avec insistence, dit-elle, elle se sent démunie,sauf à saisir la justice, une démarche hostile, à effet pervers. Non, il lui faut copie de cet acte. Elle en devient obsédée.

<<On m’a dit d’attendre deux mois, quatre mois, six mois, huit mois, j’ai compris qu’on me racontait n’importe quoi pour que je me taise>>, nous dit-elle. On l’aurait priée d’avoir la décence d’attendre que Ranier parte pour toujours. Lorsque celui-ci décède, le 13 avril, Nicole adresse à Albert ses condoléances par SMS. Et contacte à nouveau notaire pour la copie de la si fameuse reconnaissance en paternité. Le notaire s’y soustrait. De bon droit. <J’ai alors compris qu’il était de leur côté, j’ai demandé à un autre notaire d’exiger de lui une copie de cet acte. Cela ne s’est pas fait.>> En tout légalité, d’ailleurs. En revanche, on lui aurait fait savoir qu’<<il fallait que je fasse attention si je voulais conserver mon confort matériel. Alors, ils veulent m’acheter? Moi, je veux seulement que priment les valeurs humaines>>, s’indigne la jeune mère.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:54 PM
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No proof

If, therefore, Alexandre were indeed recognized in the Mahot notary of Querantonnais, that would make of him an heir with whole share to Albert II of Monaco. And it is not insignificant. If that does not make him a prince nor does not give him of place in the dynastic succession, that promises a comfortable life to him. But this acte constraint also Nicole with silence. She does not have any right to have copy of it. No proof, therefore, of the paternity of Albert. Moreover, this is what the Rock, she feels, gives her to understand. With insistence, she says, she feels stripped, except seizing justice, a hostile step has been taken, for perverse purpose. No, she needs copy of this acte. She becomes obsessed about it.

<< They said to me to wait two months, four months, six months, eight month, I understood that I was told anything so that I keep myself silent>>, she says to us. They would then request her to have the decency to wait until Ranier dies. When he does pass away, April 13, Nicole addresses to Albert her condolences by SMS. And again contacts notary for the copy of the so famous recognition in paternity. The notary withdrew from that of good reason. <<I then understood that he was on their side, I asked another notary to require of him a copy of this act. That was not done>> In all legality, moreover. On the other hand, they also let it be known that it was necessary that I pay attention if I wanted to preserve my material comfort. Then, they want to buy to me? Me, I want only that precede the human values>>, the young mother is indignant.


also here the the website for the magazine www.lepoint.fr
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