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Old 06-06-2005, 02:59 PM
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since albert and his two sisters are in mourning. what do they do? is it time for reflection on their father's life and what they plan to do with their lives? can someone spell it out for me pls.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:56 PM
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I'm not sure if I should put this or not -- mainly becuase it is not so special an article. It’s an article from le Point. I do not say that this publication is great or that they know everything. But they seem to know a little of something. Maybe the lady was trying to make the best of something that turned bad, I do not know. Certainly I do not know how I would have handled that thing.

But you have to look at it for your self and take it with a 'Big-Grain-Of-Salt' as they say.

Les Dessous D’un Scoop

<<L’enfant secret d’Albert de Monaco>>: c’est sans doute un des plus beaux scoops de ces cinq dernières années! Une exclusivité vendue en Allemagne, en Italie, en France et reprise en Angleterre, en Espagne…et dans les médias du monde entier. En France, c’est Paris Match qui a tiré le gros lot, dopant ses ventes à des niveaux inespérés. Les premières estimations font état du million d’exemplaires vendues.


Tout commence il y a six mois environ. Par une trahison. Deux ressortissants togolais répondant aux noms Sims et Romuald, roulant Jaguar et se disant proches de Nicole Coste, la maman de petit Alexandre, font le tour des agencies avec des photos de l’enfant. Sims est en réalité un cousin de Nicole Coste. Et, selon toute vraisemblance, il l’a abusée avec des photos qu’elle lui avait confiées à titre privé. Les Togolais, qui estiment (surestiment) au depart leur coup à plus de 150 000 euros, se proposent d’indiquer aux paparazzi les prochains rendez-vous secrets entre le père présumé et son enfant. Contactée, l’agence Angeli décline l’offre. Sipa aussi. Pour ces agencies, le coup paraît hasardeux et le palais risque, et retour, de leur retirer leur accréditations sur le Rocher. Le magazine Stern aurait, lui proposé 75 000 euros avant de se rétracter faute de pouvoir obtenir une copie de l’acte notarié de reconnaissance de l’enfant par Albert. Informés à leur tour, les Allemands de Bunte contactent les deux plus célèbres paparazzi, Pascal Rostain et Bruno Mouron, qui ont déjà à leur palmarès le scoop sur Mazarine et beaucoup d’autres. Les deux compères de l’agence Sphinx demandent carte blance à Bunte. Ils savant que l’histoire ne serait pas assez crédible sans l’interview-confession de la mère. Il leur faudra des mois pour la convaincre. C’est finalement les révélations de la presse brittanique sur l’existence prétendue d’une autre fille cachée du prince Albert aux Etat-Unis qui la décideront à coopérer avec Rostain et Mouron. Ces derniers se rétribuent avec le ventes de leur reportage photo. Paris Match envoie Arnaud Bizot pour l’interview et Bunte une autre journaliste qui réalise huit heures d’entretien sur magnétophone. Il semble bien que les deux mystérieux Togolais aient touché de l’argent, un peu d’argent…Quant à Nicole Coste, elle n’a pas empoché un centime et n’a su qu’après coup qu’elle avait été roulée par Sims.


En France, l’affaire pourrait connaître d’autres rebondissements. Car des fuites provenant de la concurrence en direction de Grimaldi ont constraint Paris Match à accélérer la parution du reportage.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:02 PM
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lillia
pleas take pity on me for not applying myself in french studies. i cant read what u have posted. can u translate it please?
just looking at the article all i can make out something about nicole's cousin, getting paid for some photos, united states thrown in there too, its just not making any sense to me.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:04 PM
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okay, let's see if I can get some real sense into this mess. There are two sides. We all know that. So far only one has been brave (not foolish) to stand up. Knowing very well she would loose the man.

I am in a situation very similar if not too close to prince Albert's and Nicole. here are two prominent politicians in a state in the US. Both are married to their spouses, but some time ago found each other alone at a function and from that moment on went on in a secret relationship. The relationship lasted four years. A child was born and a place for the child was found. An apartment, where during the days they both could go and meet and spend time with the child. At this time, one household knew of the affair but the other one did not. So it was concealed due to the public responsibility.

Finally the wife of the male politician found out and created a great scandal. The whole public found out and all the promises, the conversations, the plans, the deals that were made in that apartment disapeared as soon as the birds fly by. The female politician brings the child home and decides to risk all and brings the child public and continues to seek higher political office. She is been blamed, particulary by the male politician's friends as an oportunist. Taking advantage of the situation to get back at him for not leaving his wife for the life of this woman and child.

What it is not understood is that during those four years, many trips abroad and within the states, including offices in Washington, is the constant talk between them as to what would happen to them and their child. Their life together and the way to get it acomplish. but once the bad news are out, he hides in his house, blames her for going public and everyone bashes her for her un loyaly to the man that gave her a child, got an apartment to keep the child safe.

But he forgot the very esence of a woman. being a mother and wanting was is best for the child and that she had a family at her main house, with a husband that kept the other children safe for her while her politics evolve. Now she is looking for child support and legal recognition of the child by the father. And she is perceived as bad? an oportunist? un loyal? Until when are we going to put a man's world ahead of a woman's?

He knew what he was doing. She knew what she was doing. They stayed together for that time until it was discovered, and when everything colapsed he ran and hid. Now Nicole is looking for what SHE thinks is right, being support for her child or revenge from her boyfriend. For what ever it is, it is her loss. Let her grieve it. let her set herself free from all. Perhaps she was tired of living in that apartment being unable to be herself. perhaps this is liberation for her and her child.

Responsibility if we are to judge comes from a man first, after all we are defending his side so much, why not put it right on his court. he is the reinging prince. he can make exceptions. he no longer waits for his father. he could have done better, and simply enough he choose not to. Just not to.

Shame to him for being so irresponsible. Hiding her in an apartment. and I don't care how much it cost or what he provided for her and her family. She deserved respect as a human being first, second as a woman and third as the mother of the child they share, and last if any for any feeling he might have had for her.

i made my peace. I said it and I can live free now.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:15 PM
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i'm really not looking at albert with rose color glasses. since he had relations with her, knowing his poisition in life he should use protection. on the other hand nicole's timing was wrong too. the man just lost his father. why couldnt she wait 3 mos? she'd waited 22 mos what is another 3 mos?
he mika i see u r still on the thread can u translante what lillia posted, please?
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:54 PM
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Underneath Of the Scoop:

It is undoubtedly one of most beautiful the scoops of these five last years! An exclusiveness sold in Germany, in Italy, in France and re-told in England, in Spain... and in the media of the whole world. In France, it is Paris Match which drew the first prize, doping its sales on unhoped-for levels. The first estimates state of the million copies of sales. All this starts approximately six months ago. By a treason. Two nationals togolais answering the names Sims and Romuald, travelling in a Jaguar and being close to Nicole Coste, the mom of small Alexandre, make the rounds of the agencies with photographs of the child. Sims is actually a cousin of Nicole Coste. And, according to any probability, it deceived it with photographs that she had entrusted to him on a purely private basis. The men from Togo, which estimates (over-estimate) at the beginning their very big story at more than 150 000 euros, propose to indicate to the paparazzi the next secret appointments between the supposed father and his child.

Contacted, the Angeli agency declines the offer. Sipa too. For these agencies, the coup appears hazardous and (too risky for their taste, I think this is) and return, to withdraw their accreditations to them on the Rock (Monaco, I think this is). The Stern magazine, would have proposed 75 000 euros to him before retracting fault of being the ability to obtain a copy of (the birth certificate, I believe these is) recognition of the child by Albert. Informed in their turn, the Germans of Bunte contact two more famous paparazzi, Pascal Rostain and Bruno Mouron, which already have with their prize list the scoop on Mazarine and much of others. The two accomplices of the Sphinx agency request cart blance from Bunte. They know certainly that these history would not be credible enough without the interview-confession of the mother. It will take them months to convince it. It is finally the revelations of the brittanic press on the alleged existence of another hidden girl of prince Albert in the United States what decided her to cooperate with Rostain and Mouron. The latter are remunerated with the sales of their photo report. Paris Match sends Arnaud Bizot for the interview and Bunte another journalist who carries out eight hours of (interview- I think this is) on tape recorder. It seems well that both mysterious Togolais touched money, a little money... As for Nicole Coste, she did not take any centime and knew only afterwards that she had been rolled by Sims. En France, the business could know other bounces ( I do not know how to translate that nicely). Because of the escapes coming from competition in direction of Grimaldi have constraint Paris Match to accelerate the publication of the report.

(its awful but I tried). See it with a "big grain of salt" becuase its not so nice, but that is what they put in the magazine. Author name is Jean-Francois Jaquier.

If I mix up in the translation, please someone correct that (and then forgive me).
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:14 PM
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Lillia, thanks for the translation.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:40 PM
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I get this translation very close to the other.

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Lower parts Of Scoop

< < the secret child of Albert of Monaco > >: it is undoubtedly
one of most beautiful the scoops of these five last years! An
exclusiveness sold in Germany, in Italy, in France and recovery in
England, in Spain... and in the media of the whole world. In France,
it is Paris Match which drew the first prize, doping its sales on
unhoped-for levels. The first estimates make state of the million
specimens sold

All starts approximately six months ago. By a treason. Two Togolese
nationals answering the names Sims and Romuald, travelling Jaguar and
being close to Nicole Coste, the mom of small Alexandre, make the turn
of the agencies with photographs of the child. Sims is actually a
cousin of Nicole Coste. And, according to any probability, it deceived
it with photographs that she had entrusted to him on a purely private
basis. The Togolese, who estimates (over-estimate) at the beginning
their blow at more than 150 000 euros, proposes to indicate to
the paparazzi the next secret appointments between the supposed father
and his child. Contacted, the Angeli agency declines the offer. Sipa
too. For these agencies, the blow appears hazardous and the palate
risks, and return, to withdraw their accreditations to them on the
Rock. The Stern magazine, would have proposed 75 000 euros to
him before retracting fault of being able to obtain a copy of the notarial
act of recognition of the child by Albert. Informed in their turn, the
Germans of Bunte contact both more famous paparazzi, Pascal Rostain
and Bruno Mouron, which already have with their prize list the scoop
on Mazarine and much of others. The two accomplices of the Sphinx
agency request chart blance from Bunte. They erudite that the history
would not be credible enough without the interview-confession of the
mother. It will take them months to convince it. They is finally the
revelations of the brittanic press on the alleged existence of another
hidden girl of prince Albert to State-Plain who will decide it to
cooperate with Rostain and Mouron. The latter are remunerated with the
sales of their photo report. Paris Match sends Arnaud Bizot for the
interview and Bunte another journalist who carries out eight hours of
maintenance on tape recorder. It seems well that the two mysterious
Togolese touched money, a little money... As for Nicole Coste, she
did not empoché a centime and knew only afterwards that she had been
rolled by Sims.

In France, the business could know other bounces. Because of the
escapes coming from competition in direction of Grimaldi have
constraint Paris Match to accelerate the publication of the report.
Interesting isn't it that it was six months before the release and Rainier was still alive and not in the hospital. Such a secret she was to keep how did they get the pictures? How did they learn he was the alleged father? She had to have told the secret she promised to keep. Why did she want the papers so bad?
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:59 PM
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Mika, very insightful post. Thank you for sharing it. :)
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:17 PM
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All very good questions, LadyMacAlpine.

If she had been told to wait until things were settled with the family, they were not anticipating the death of Rainier at that time, nor the mourning to follow. There would have been no reason for her to go to the papers unless she were panicky over getting the child registered at Albert's son with the government...but why not talk to Albert about that?

Having these mysterious names of people suddenly pulled from thin air makes me suspect that there is some damage control and back peddling going on now. If these people existed why weren't they mentioned before? And if they had betrayed her so badly by leaking the story, where did they get her personal photos from, and why did she give interviews to the magazines and allow them to take pictures of her playing with her child? Where are these people now?

There are some very unsettling things happening with this story.
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:20 PM
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thx for the translateion lillia
does any smell a cover up?
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:59 PM
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Well, one of these guys was her cousin supposedly. Personally, I trust my cousins. (Maybe I shouldn't :)) I guess those guys saw a way to possibly make money. Everyone confides in someone. I'm sure Albert had confided in his advisors about this situation. That's what he has them for. I can't imagine being in Nicole's position (whether she "trapped" Albert on purpose or not is actually irrelevant in this instance) and not being supposed to tell ANYONE who my child's father is. How shameful it must have been for her. Maybe I'm just projecting my own feelings on her, but I would have felt horribly rejected and alone. I realize he was the Crown Prince, but there have been other indiscretions in royal families (including this one, I might add) and the daddy's still stepped up to the plate. What if when Princess Caroline or Princess Stephanie had been pregnant and unwed, the fathers had refused to publicly acknowledge their children? We would have been VERY quick to defend the Princesses (I would have anyway) and call the "daddys" irresponsible jerks.
As far as any father saying it needs to be kept quiet just for the child's own welfare...come on. I find it hard to believe that many "mothers" would fall for that line. Even though it may be true in some cases (who would ever know unless the child was raised both ways-quite impossible!) it would be pretty hard to convince me that my child would be better off without the perks that being the child of an important royal ruler would bring. (It's not like he had a wife and kids at home that he wanted to spare.)
The thing that keeps nagging at me the most though is what kind of man with no other children (that we know of) would actually HIDE his only offspring for these years. I cannot fathom not being able to stand up to my parent for my child. I cannot fathom hiding my child. Maybe it's because I could not have children, but the life of a child seems so precious to me that I cannot imagine it not being front and center in importance. And this is a beautiful child. Maybe more truths will come out and we'll find that this is all not as it appears to be. All I know is, IF this IS Albert's child (whether Nicole planned the whole pregnancy or not) and he's known it for 2 years, my opinion of him has gone down a notch I'm sad to say.
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The thing that keeps nagging at me the most though is what kind of man with no other children (that we know of) would actually HIDE his only offspring for these years. I cannot fathom not being able to stand up to my parent for my child. I cannot fathom hiding my child. Maybe it's because I could not have children, but the life of a child seems so precious to me that I cannot imagine it not being front and center in importance. And this is a beautiful child. Maybe more truths will come out and we'll find that this is all not as it appears to be. All I know is, IF this IS Albert's child (whether Nicole planned the whole pregnancy or not) and he's known it for 2 years, my opinion of him has gone down a notch I'm sad to say.
I'm sorry that you can't have children, dreed777. I can understand your view; The chances of having children of my own are stacked against me.

Although it does look bad that if Albert is Alexandre's father and didn't publicly acknowledge him, the impression I got was that Albert has been providing for the child and sees him as much as he could. Has anyone considered that maybe it would have been the best for Alexandre, or it was in Albert's opinion, not to have been dragged into the public eye like he is now? The label of being the son of a reigning monarch, not to mention an illegitimate one, is a harsh one for a child to grow up with. Alexandre will have to live the rest of his life being scrutinized by the public because of who his father is and the circumstances of his birth, not to mention the security threat to him.

Being royalty has its own price to pay. Most royals are expected to pay the price because of their birth, and some because of associations with them. I would bet that a lot of royals today would give a lot to live lives as the "regular" people do. I hear a lot of parents say that they want to give their children the life they never had, or an easier life than they themselves experienced. Wouldn't Albert's greatest gift to Alexandre be the ability to live his life without the glare and harsh realities of being royal? The life that Albert himself never had the opportunity to enjoy and be a part of because of his own birth? People take anonomity and priviacy for granted, I think, until it's lost to them and usually forever. Royalty don't even get the chance to have both. If my impression that Albert financially supports Alexandre and sees him as much as he could is true, then the best thing that Albert can do for Alexandre is to give him the chance to grow up in as normal a setting as possible then make the decision to be in the public eye when he is older. As it is right now, there's no longer a chance for that because that baby boy has been shoved into the public eye and exposed to the harsh scrutiny of the public. He really is a victim.
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I'm sorry that you can't have children, dreed777. I can understand your view; The chances of having children of my own are stacked against me.

Although it does look bad that if Albert is Alexandre's father and didn't publicly acknowledge him, the impression I got was that Albert has been providing for the child and sees him as much as he could. Has anyone considered that maybe it would have been the best for Alexandre, or it was in Albert's opinion, not to have been dragged into the public eye like he is now? The label of being the son of a reigning monarch, not to mention an illegitimate one, is a harsh one for a child to grow up with. Alexandre will have to live the rest of his life being scrutinized by the public because of who his father is and the circumstances of his birth, not to mention the security threat to him. Being royalty has its own price to pay. Most royals are expected to pay the price because of their birth, and some because of associations with them. I would bet that a lot of royals today would give a lot to live lives as the "regular" people do.

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Has anyone considered that maybe it would have been the best for Alexandre, or it was in Albert's opinion, not to have been dragged into the public eye like he is now?
Yes, I have and tried to say that but apparently people weren't getting it so thank you.

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I would bet that a lot of royals today would give a lot to live lives as the "regular" people do.
A little peace in their private life allowed to make mistakes. I have put off saying I have a strange feeling another surprise is on its way. July is a busy month and its coming up fast.
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A little peace in their private life allowed to make mistakes. I have put off saying I have a strange feeling another surprise is on its way. July is a busy month and its coming up fast.
LadyMac...When you say "another surprise is on its way", are you referring to the possibility of audio tapes surfacing?
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A little peace in their private life allowed to make mistakes. I have put off saying I have a strange feeling another surprise is on its way. July is a busy month and its coming up fast.
Let's see, what could a surprise be?
Hmm...
Albert marries Nicole after all this drama
Albert has long lost Grimaldi twins (that's not so far fetched)
Charlotte gets pregnant
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Moonlightrhapsody, what you posted does make lots of sense. In fact, if that is how Prince Albert truly feels, then we can pretty much ascertain that he will never be having "legitimate" children. Oh well. Only time will tell. However, if he DOES marry and produce offspring (and doesn't somehow hide the pregnancy, birth, & child) I'm afraid that theory shall be blown out of the water. (Either that, or the happiness and welfare of his "legitimate" offspring would obviously not be nearly as important to him as that of his "illegitimate" offspring-a doubtful explanation).
Maybe your theory is totally correct - if so, it would explain his avoidance of matrimony altogether! (And would alleviate my disapointment in his handling of the situation as well.) :) (All my opinions, of course, are based on IF Nicole is being honest about everything:) )
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Let's see, what could a surprise be?
Hmm...
Albert marries Nicole after all this drama
Albert has long lost Grimaldi twins (that's not so far fetched)
Charlotte gets pregnant
Stephanie remarries
The surprise LadyMacAlpine talks about could be a wedding, Albert's, but I doubt it will be with Nicole. You know I would love to see Tasha De Vasconcelos as Princess of Monaco, she's so pretty, has style, is knowledgeable, she's a model and film actress in Europe.
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dreed777, you completely hit the nail on the head in terms of my opinions about this issue. But before I go into that i want to say that i don't think anyone here believe albert himself to be racist but my bringing up of race here is to some of the members of this board and their reactions and perhaps a good portion of the public. I still stand by my opinion that if Nicole looked like the Crown Princess of Denmark, this discussion wouldn't be so quick to blame her.

Now to Nicole Costa i feel that she must have felt that coming out is the best way to protect her child. What if albert was planning on getting married soon??? or what by some remote chance he dies??? NO ONE would believe this baby is his child. Right now, I feel that she's made her statement and she can just go one living her life because if Albert decides he wants to marry, EVERYONE would already know he has one son first. I really believe that was her plan: to put it out there so she'd have more of an equal footing if at an point in time she would have to defend her child. Also Albert coulda been saying "wait till my dad get's better", "wait till after he dies" "wait till after morning", wait till november, "wait till albert's statement", wait till albert marries, etc. It could have gone on and on like this and finally nicole just got fed up and said, she'd put her story out FIRST this way it'd be harder for the palace to twist the story. She shouldn't have to wait for forever and Alex definitely deserves to have everything that he is entitled to as the son of Albert (which is more than an apartment and an allowance).
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I've been reading all the posts with interest. The fact is until there is a DNA test we will not know whether or not the child is his. However my main point here is that as ruler of his principality it is about time that Albert settle down and produce a legitimate child. I'm not saying that he should be forced to do something that he doesn't want to. But he is not your joe average public, he is a Prince and that come's with alot of responsibility. I believe that the whole family (the Gramaldi's) will have to sit down and discuss the future.

It seems to me that Albert for whatever reason is unwilling or reluctant to marry and settle down. This means that the future lies with Caroline's son Andrea. He's in his early 20's, but in a few years time if PA still hasn't settled down - he will have to start preparing for his role.

If the baby is Alberts, then there is the question of raising him etc. How will he be prepared for the throne? Can a illegitimate child sit on any throne of any country for that matter? For me this would not be a problem, but obviously it would require a change in Monaco's constitution.

But really Albert needs to be more careful, he can't keep having careless flings etc. He's a 47 year old leader now, not a young man in his 20's sowing his wild oats.

There's also the issue of if the child is his, would Nicole be willing for the child to be raised in Monaco etc...

Like i said there's alot of issue's here to consider.
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