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Old 12-06-2006, 09:21 AM
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Monaco Leading Battle Against Global Warming

Monaco has seen a dramatic improvement in the quality of her environment in the year since Prince Albert took over the reigns of the Principality.

http://prweb.com/releases/2006/12/prweb486174.htm
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:48 AM
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Monaco Leading Battle Against Global Warming

Monaco has seen a dramatic improvement in the quality of her environment in the year since Prince Albert took over the reigns of the Principality.

http://prweb.com/releases/2006/12/prweb486174.htm
The improvement was solely achieved by forging the statistics. Fact is that we have as much prbelms as we had before and Aberts initiative to make public transportation more attractive to people has resulted an in increase of busfares of more than 40% for regular users and a savings of 30% for the occasional user. Thanks Albert, I 'd rather have the pre-environment polices back, that would let me use the busses at a decent price. Now it is not only more convenient for families to use their cars, but including parkigfees it will be even cheaper tto use a car, even on short distances. Good effort for the environment!! French local poiticians are outraged and have demanded a change, because ultimately they too will have to suffer the consequences of Albert's politics by even more blocked roads and polution.


Just to add that the sundeflectors that have been promissed earlier this year, have still not been installed and after the initial announcement nothing more has been mentioned about it. In fact apart from signing the Koto protocol, nothing has been achieved in respect of the environment dring Albert's reign.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:30 PM
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I know this is not as interesting as PAs love life, but this is what he should be known more for -his goodwill visits and his concern for the enviroment of the planet. Way to go Albert.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:15 PM
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Yes, if his goodwill visits wouldn't be cover ups for him holidaying in Bali and his environmental engagements would actually show some results other then making things worse by giving people a pretext to use their cars and jetting to the pole. How is destroying the ozonlayer by using a jet to get an expedition as close as possible to the pole and having himself helicoptered out after having found it, beying an environmentalist. To me that is nothing other then a spoilt rich guy looking fr his kick, so his life isn't quite as boring. Anyone read the vogue article about Tatiana and Caros children? Isn't it great that they don't use the limousine unless their parents are in town, but a taxi? How come Albert doesn't convince them to use public transportation instead and set an example to other young people .... How come we never see him use public transportation, but instead traveling the globe with his mistress in a privat jet...
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:59 AM
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Paca, can you find a current article to support your complaints of how poorly Prince Albert is handling/managing Monaco? You always shatter every positive article written about him. There are 32,000 people who reside in Monaco and you are only one voice. So perhaps you can enlighten this thread with some current news of why the people of Monaco are so unhappy, as you are, with their beloved prince innovated approach to global warming.

Please refrain from using tabloids and blogs because most of their information is speculative. I am sure there is one reputable news magazine or paper that you can find to share.

No pun is intended by my post.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:58 AM
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Yes, if his goodwill visits wouldn't be cover ups for him holidaying in Bali and his environmental engagements would actually show some results other then making things worse by giving people a pretext to use their cars and jetting to the pole. How is destroying the ozonlayer by using a jet to get an expedition as close as possible to the pole and having himself helicoptered out after having found it, beying an environmentalist. To me that is nothing other then a spoilt rich guy looking fr his kick, so his life isn't quite as boring. Anyone read the vogue article about Tatiana and Caros children? Isn't it great that they don't use the limousine unless their parents are in town, but a taxi? How come Albert doesn't convince them to use public transportation instead and set an example to other young people .... How come we never see him use public transportation, but instead traveling the globe with his mistress in a privat jet...
How can you compare the Casiraghi´s and Tatiana with The Prince of Monaco, he´s the head of state, of course he doesn´t use public transportation but a private one and a court of bodyguards, it happens everywhere; and i´kept thinking, is there any other possibility to reach the pole than to use a jet? it would have been a long trip by ship
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:20 AM
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Paca, can you find a current article to support your complaints of how poorly Prince Albert is handling/managing Monaco? You always shatter every positive article written about him. There are 32,000 people who reside in Monaco and you are only one voice. So perhaps you can enlighten this thread with some current news of why the people of Monaco are so unhappy, as you are, with their beloved prince innovated approach to global warming.

Please refrain from using tabloids and blogs because most of their information is speculative. I am sure there is one reputable news magazine or paper that you can find to share.

No pun is intended by my post.
My source is the local paper, which unfortunetely does not publish online. Occasionally you can find similar info on other monaco pages. The announcement about the busfares is on the government page, though there is a difference to the local paper in the 10 journey fare. So far no one has bothered to correct this in the local paper, which is the main source of info for local people, and even French politicians from adjoining communities have contacted the paper to voice their complaint. It has been several days and still no reaction from the gouvernment. The tickets will be on sale in a few days. As to the sundeflectors, they have been announced for installment earlier this year, but nothing in the paper since then and all possible buildings for such installations are still as they are. I am sure there would be a huge article in the paper if they were being installed.

As to the forging of statistics, there was an article online somewhere which stated that Monaco had actually demanded some German institute to correct their figures, arguing that a lot of people did not get their gas in Monaco, but in France and Italy and thus they should raise a few spots on the list. I'm sr you can find it in one of the threads
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:29 AM
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How can you compare the Casiraghi´s and Tatiana with The Prince of Monaco, he´s the head of state, of course he doesn´t use public transportation but a private one and a court of bodyguards, it happens everywhere; and i´kept thinking, is there any other possibility to reach the pole than to use a jet? it would have been a long trip by ship
I have never seen Albert on any public transportation, even as crown prince. But other royal do at least on certain occasions show an interest in it. I remember that while living in Munich, it was part of the visit to Munich by either the Dutch or the Danish queen ( don't remember which), she had a ride in a subway train. You also see the queen of England use the train, Prince Philip uses an electric car. In monaco it was quite a thing that ALbert once walke the few meters from the palace to the parliament. Since then he has used the car. I know they think it is necessary to make a big pow wow around their arrival, by using big cars, police escorts and whatever else. It is simply symbolic. But if he was serious about the environment he would at least once in a while leave all symbolism asside and walk. I am sure people would respect him the more for it. And I am sure it would help his image a lot, if he'd srprise everyone in January by using the bus like a regular citizen, to see that everything is going the right way and to actualy hear from the people themselves, what they think. He always gives himself the image of being approachable, but de facto he is just as distant as his father, even more so, since he travels more.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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I have never seen Albert on any public transportation, even as crown prince. But other royal do at least on certain occasions show an interest in it. I remember that while living in Munich, it was part of the visit to Munich by either the Dutch or the Danish queen ( don't remember which), she had a ride in a subway train. You also see the queen of England use the train, Prince Philip uses an electric car. In monaco it was quite a thing that ALbert once walke the few meters from the palace to the parliament. Since then he has used the car. I know they think it is necessary to make a big pow wow around their arrival, by using big cars, police escorts and whatever else. It is simply symbolic. But if he was serious about the environment he would at least once in a while leave all symbolism asside and walk. I am sure people would respect him the more for it. And I am sure it would help his image a lot, if he'd srprise everyone in January by using the bus like a regular citizen, to see that everything is going the right way and to actualy hear from the people themselves, what they think. He always gives himself the image of being approachable, but de facto he is just as distant as his father, even more so, since he travels more.
I believe when Queen Elizabeth is on the train no one else is and she had her own. I think a lot of the good for Albert's has to do with for as long as I can recall you haven't had anything positive to say about him which is your choice of course. Some would like to see the positive things said about him not be torn down. JMO. I've found it best not to comment on all the bad things being said because I for one would like to know about some of the good he is doing and get a pat on the back for his concerns. Personally if I lived there I wouldn't expect to see him on public transportation due to who he is. The going around on his private jet I can't blame him either for many reasons. Its also far safer for the general public to not be on the same public flights if he was to be made a target by some wacko out to get him. JMO
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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Some would like to see the positive things said about him not be torn down. JMO. I've found it best not to comment on all the bad things being said because I for one would like to know about some of the good he is doing and get a pat on the back for his concerns. Personally if I lived there I wouldn't expect to see him on public transportation due to who he is. The going around on his private jet I can't blame him either for many reasons. Its also far safer for the general public to not be on the same public flights if he was to be made a target by some wacko out to get him. JMO
Just as everyone else we are all entitled to our oppinions. There is only one difference between me and the majority of posters here and that is the fact that I can see everyday what is done and what isn't. You see only the PR stunts to foster his image. You see how he wants to be seen. I'd love to agree with all of you, unfortunetely I see everyday that it is all image, no substance and the fact that he is more absent then present, does not help matters here. IMO he can not go preaching to the world, while at home nothing changes or whatever does change, changes for the worse.

So far there has been no response from the government to the Monaco matin article about the raised bus fares and the open demand of French politicians in the same paper to reconsider this step. It was a title story in the paper. Don't you think that if it was an honest mistake, that someone would have been immediately on the phone to correct this before everyone get's worked up about it. Usually Monaco matin corrects these mistakes themselves, if the happen to notice, so obviously they wrote the article according to information given to them at the press conference.

If I wasn't living here, I might be buying the PR as well, since it would be the only source of information, but fact is that I do and I have access to information that most of you don't have. Unfortunetely I don't have the time to scan each article for you, besides I am convinced that the majority of posters is not that interested in what is really going on here, so that would b a waste of time. I have posted either here or elsewhere in appropriate threads local internet sites that do discuss local politics and tend to scan these articles. If you care enough or are interested enough, you just have to go and take a look.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:20 PM
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My source is the local paper, which unfortunetely does not publish online.
Actually, pages (sometimes up to 17 pages) of the Monaco Matin is now published online. Most of the Monaco section is published.

Click on Monaco to pull up the paper.
http://www.nicematin.fr/essentiel_quotidien.php
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:16 PM
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I just want to make a question off the topic,sorry i don´t know where to post it. This is to Paca; I don´t know if you live exactly in Monaco or the surroundings, I would like to know if any of the Princes is accesible, approachable as you said to the common people, the few ones i suppose, not the very rich who have the biggest appartments in Montecarlo. When i was there, only a few hours, i talked to an old woman, who had lived there for more than 40 years, she was taking the bus and told me she was delighted to live there, that the royal family was nice, etc.
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Actually, pages (sometimes up to 17 pages) of the Monaco Matin is now published online. Most of the Monaco section is published.

Click on Monaco to pull up the paper.
http://www.nicematin.fr/essentiel_quotidien.php
THanks, I didn't notice that they have chaged that. Must be fairly new. but at least if people want now, they can check it out themselves and read up on local Monaco politics
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:47 PM
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When i was there, only a few hours, i talked to an old woman, who had lived there for more than 40 years, she was taking the bus and told me she was delighted to live there, that the royal family was nice, etc.
I've heard the same things even from someone who lives in Monaco and knows the family. He and I talked for sometime about Albert and he very much likes him. Its differences of opinion. And I want to say I have nothing against Paca.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:52 PM
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I just want to make a question off the topic,sorry i don´t know where to post it. This is to Paca; I don´t know if you live exactly in Monaco or the surroundings, I would like to know if any of the Princes is accesible, approachable as you said to the common people, the few ones i suppose, not the very rich who have the biggest appartments in Montecarlo. When i was there, only a few hours, i talked to an old woman, who had lived there for more than 40 years, she was taking the bus and told me she was delighted to live there, that the royal family was nice, etc.
yes that's what a lot of people say to people they don't know. That's just Monaco. You don't criticise much in the open, only among friends and good acquaintences.

As to whether the family is approachable, well you can bump into Steph as she walks her dog in the park or when she goes out. But I don't think she would be too comfortable if you'd chat her up as if she was anyone you knew well ( at least she never gave me the impression. although she would surely be polite if you did. IT is just not sth I would think of doing in passing her) I used to see Albert and Steph often when I used to go out nightclubbing a few years back, but they tend to stick with their own crowd, so unless you know one of them you wouldn't have a natural encounter with them. It is either on official occasions if you are invited that you meet them, but again that usually doesn't go beyond exchange of politenesses and rarely a conversation. Unless you knew them from other occasions. That's usually what it is like. So mainly they stay among the people they know or those that get introduced to them for a specific reason. And I don't really remember seeing Albert on a stroll through his principality. He should do that sometimes. he might learn sth.
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The annual Christmas Concert was held in Vatican many years. But this year it will be moved to Monaco. Present pope doesn't like pop music and this concert has become controvensial recently.
This year the concert will be in Monte Carlo on 12/09 under patronage of prince Albert. I wonder if it means he will be there.

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=48074


Several posts ago I learnt that Albert is expected to be in Glasgow on the same day (Dec.09) because of awards he will give at Prince Grace Theater in Glasgow.
So, can we expect him in two places at once?
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Albert won't be in Monaco till next monday. I also doubt that he will be in Glasgow, since the local paper said that he was coming back from his trip to Asia via Dubai, where he also has an official act to perform on Sunday I believe. So unless he can do the Santa trick, I doubt that we will see him at all those places. :) Let's see where he shows.
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No, Albert already knows the "Santa trick", its part of his dating repertoire.

Have there been any plans announced for a New Year celebration?
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Pics 12.12.2006

Prince Albert in Monaco today, he has signed contracts concerning the railway station in Monaco - belga:
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Thanks for the pics Iceflower. Its amazing how much he resembles his grandfather, John B. Kelly Sr., in the first picture.
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