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Old 09-09-2005, 01:36 PM
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lol Rorotonga it is isn't it I tried it due to Albert to see what it was like.
LadyMac, by the way, how do know vodka cran is among PA's favorite drink?
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I will disagree with you. And when Rainier married Grace he had to notify France of his intentions of marriage before the announcements were made as in the cases of Albert's sisters. The Reining Prince of Monaco is the head of the family for anyone to marry permission must be requested in writing to the Prince. With Albert head of the family he doesn't need to ask however his sisters will have a say in who he does marry in that its not likely he wants them to cause trouble with his wife as his mother experianced. A friend of Albert's has stated he has always asked others opinions of what they thought of the woman he dates. Thats an indication he seeks approval she would be accepted as his wife should the relationship reach that stage.
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to your post your saying that his sisters will have a say in the wife he chooses as an opinion only? Because if that's the case he may choose not to take thier opinions to heart. He probably will but the point is he doesn't have to. As for France well I was discussing approval from family members, I realize that almost every regning prince or monarchy must discuss future spouses at some point. Maybe that's why he's not married yet, he keeps asking for other peoples opinions mindless of his own. :)
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:06 PM
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Why is it that now Albert is Monaco's head of state we see less of him then we did when he was only the Hereditary Prince? It seems like he did much more public duties in the former capacity. He was always traveling somewhere to meet with some official or other. Now there are hardly any public appearances. Is that because, as head of state, he now has more government duties than public ones? Is he spending more time in conference rooms and offices?
I miss seeing pics of my favorite geek! :) He's so cool!

BTW, did anyone notice that Getty called Albert Stephanie's son in the captions for the Red Cross ball pics?
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LadyMac, by the way, how do know vodka cran is among PA's favorite drink?
Umm read it somewhere don't know where

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Why is it that now Albert is Monaco's head of state we see less of him then we did when he was only the Hereditary Prince? It seems like he did much more public duties in the former capacity. He was always traveling somewhere to meet with some official or other. Now there are hardly any public appearances. Is that because, as head of state, he now has more government duties than public ones? Is he spending more time in conference rooms and offices?
I miss seeing pics of my favorite geek! :) He's so cool!

BTW, did anyone notice that Getty called Albert Stephanie's son in the captions for the Red Cross ball pics?
I would have to say you have the reason correct. If you look at the official website for the Palace as I do http://www.monaco.gouv.mc/PortGb (journel officiel) to see what he is doing there is a list of appointments he is making decision just to establish his own government positions or cabinet, whatever you want to all it he is busy. He has made some public appearances at the ball etc. Use to be from what I have read the Princes weren't in residence at the Palace in the summer but at others. November and December are generally busier in all Government work it seems. Our own Congress, House whatever is in session during certain times of the year even though they are working in their own individual offices within the community. He also chairs a lot of organizations if I said that right meaning meetings. Heads up a lot more then just the running of Monaco's Government.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but according to your post your saying that his sisters will have a say in the wife he chooses as an opinion only? Because if that's the case he may choose not to take thier opinions to heart. He probably will but the point is he doesn't have to. As for France well I was discussing approval from family members, I realize that almost every regning prince or monarchy must discuss future spouses at some point. Maybe that's why he's not married yet, he keeps asking for other peoples opinions mindless of his own. :)
Perhaps the best way to say it is if they don't like a woman he is dating they won't make things easy and how many people would want that type of unrest in their lives? In one of the threads Stephanie told a female that had talked to him woman had to get past her and Caroline for approval. Don't know if she was kidding or what.

Michelle you reading this? Want to say it was you who wrote it meeting them in Stephanies place sometime back or you knew who it was because Albert ended up speaking with your brother about soccer. Maybe Sebastian recalls it. I think it is in a Stephanie thread sometime before 09/08/04.
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:17 PM
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Thanks, Lady M, for responding to my question about what Albert is doing lately. Of course he's busy busy busy. I have a question about the recent pics of him on the Pacha III from East News.

I just saw them today and this made me wonder whatever happened to the old Mogambo II boat? When was the last time Albert used that one? And why was he using Caroline's boat? Does he have one of his own? Was Caroline on the boat too? Also about PACHA III, it's homeport must be Monte Carlo since it is an SBM yacht. Is this right? Do the Grimaldis have any other yachts or other kind of boats? Is the Mogambo II still in commission or has it been replaced by a Mogambo III or some other boat?

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Thanks, Lady M, for responding to my question about what Albert is doing lately. Of course he's busy busy busy. I have a question about the recent pics of him on the Pacha III from East News.

I just saw them today and this made me wonder whatever happened to the old Mogambo II boat? When was the last time Albert used that one? And why was he using Caroline's boat? Does he have one of his own? Was Caroline on the boat too? Also about PACHA III, it's homeport must be Monte Carlo since it is an SBM yacht. Is this right? Do the Grimaldis have any other yachts or other kind of boats? Is the Mogambo II still in commission or has it been replaced by a Mogambo III or some other boat?

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Old 09-09-2005, 07:27 PM
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Perhaps the best way to say it is if they don't like a woman he is dating they won't make things easy and how many people would want that type of unrest in their lives? In one of the threads Stephanie told a female that had talked to him woman had to get past her and Caroline for approval. Don't know if she was kidding or what.

Michelle you reading this? Want to say it was you who wrote it meeting them in Stephanies place sometime back or you knew who it was because Albert ended up speaking with your brother about soccer. Maybe Sebastian recalls it. I think it is in a Stephanie thread sometime before 09/08/04.
Well, right I talked about it. If I recall it correctly it was Albert himself who said something like this. I think he was half the way kidding but there was a bit serious comment in it. I guess it would be hard or any woman to make it through if Steph and Caro don't approve of her. :)
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:42 PM
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Well, right I talked about it. If I recall it correctly it was Albert himself who said something like this. I think he was half the way kidding but there was a bit serious comment in it. I guess it would be hard or any woman to make it through if Steph and Caro don't approve of her. :)
I thought it was you. All right you belly haters feast your eyes on this flat tummy whoa, whistlinggggggg slim and trim before the stressful days and check out the hair while you are at it. He has a nice rear view BTW. Nice set of legs chase me baby.Corbis
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Just btw...I didn't realize until now how much Alexandre resembles his aunt Stephanie and his cousin Camille ( and look how much Camille looks like her mommy :) )

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[QUOTE=Bunkycat]A friend of mine just pointed this out in an email. She sent me these pics too.

Did anyone notice that there are two separate, distinct women in the pics....it's not just one woman? In this pic both women are seen at the table. He was hanging around with both of them, and if I had to guess I would say they were with the other men, not necessarily Albert."

I think one of the women moved from his side when they spotted the media. In one of the pics the girl to Alberts Right is looking in the direction of whatever boat was there, likely the one containing the media. Which means they were likely discussing it and she wanted a little photo op. I've looked at pictures of both PA and P. Charles with women and the women almost always smile for the camera when they realize the camera is on them. (When P. Charles was single) Just an oberservation, I could be wrong and this certainly cannot be taken as the rule. But it is very very common in pics.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:19 PM
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Well, right I talked about it. If I recall it correctly it was Albert himself who said something like this. I think he was half the way kidding but there was a bit serious comment in it. I guess it would be hard or any woman to make it through if Steph and Caro don't approve of her. :)
Here's the original post you were talking about , LadyMacAlpine :) :

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He said about this (to Paris Match and Femmes magazines):
"I know for sure that people will always compare whatever woman to my mother. But the worst is and will be to make her ( the possible wife) accepted by my sisters. That's hard (grin...). Oh if you knew about the whole number of poor girlfriends of mine who the two girls ( Caroline and Stephanie) tore into pieces." (grin again...:-) )

...and there's some truth to this. I remember being in Monaco with my family , and this was about 5 years ago. Thre was some party at Stephanie's restaurant. My brother ( 17 years old at that time) talked to Albert about
( guess what!) soccer and I interupted them cause I needed a new glas which Albert gave to me and we exchanged a few words.
Some minutes later Stephanie said to me:"Haha, saw your smile, If you want my brother that's fine with me but you have to become friends with Caro as well' ( grin and big smile on her face)"

So I guess, if you wanna become Al's girl you gotta win 3 hearts with one chance.....:-)

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That was it thanks for looking it up I didn't expect that only confirm the story I read. You are a sweet one.
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Just btw...I didn't realize until now how much Alexandre resembles his aunt Stephanie and his cousin Camille ( and look how much Camille looks like her mommy :) )

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Wow, Alexandre totally has Stephanie's eyes!! I mean, the shape of their eyes is identical. That's so cool. They have the same lips too. Thanks for those pics, Michelle. Those are cool. Camille looks like Grace and Stephanie.
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I found a little piece of trivia Albert was the fifth to be a Regent as a Prince of Monaco. Five as Lords of Monaco. And Monaco was under Foreign occupation 6 times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Prince_of_Monaco gives a list of Albert's new titles as the Ruling Prince. I find it interesting as part of Monaco's history to see where each title came from.

I thought I would post this since some had asked a while ago about the differances not sure if it was answered for them.
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All of the above are heirs presumptive; that is, they could be moved down the list if Albert II were to father a child. If Albert's firstborn were a daughter, she would become the first in line, but still an heiress presumptive; on the other hand, his first son would be the heir apparent, who could not be displaced by any future births. Not included in the line of succession are, Alexandre Coste, son of Prince Albert II and Camille Gottlieb, daughter of Princess Stéphanie. This being that they are both illigitimate children and therefore have no claim to the throne.

1. HRHPrincess Caroline of Hanover, Hereditary Princess of Monaco and Heiress Presumptive, elder sister of Albert II
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An article about Prince Albert from the September 10 edition of the New York Times:

“It will be very difficult for whoever will be with me, not even in marriage, whoever goes out with me seriously. Even if she doesn’t look remotely like my mother, she will be compared to her.”


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Thanks, Lady M, for responding to my question about what Albert is doing lately. Of course he's busy busy busy. I have a question about the recent pics of him on the Pacha III from East News.

I just saw them today and this made me wonder whatever happened to the old Mogambo II boat? When was the last time Albert used that one? And why was he using Caroline's boat? Does he have one of his own? Was Caroline on the boat too? Also about PACHA III, it's homeport must be Monte Carlo since it is an SBM yacht. Is this right? Do the Grimaldis have any other yachts or other kind of boats? Is the Mogambo II still in commission or has it been replaced by a Mogambo III or some other boat?
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He is surprisingly funny, though one has to listen closely to catch all of his dry asides, delivered as his voice trails off into a murmur. He does not own a yacht, or even a dinghy. He drives a hybrid gas-and-electric Lexus S.U.V.

"It was a very difficult moment for me," he said with characteristic understatement, adding that he is still "coming to terms" with the unintended fatherhood. When asked if he believed he was tricked into having a child, as the mother's account suggested, he was unflinching. "Yes, I think I was set up," he said.

He said he was not involved with anyone now and was too busy to look.

He said he had seen Alexandre only once, briefly, since the story became public, "because of his mother's attitude toward me."

"It's not a very pleasant situation," he said. "My only concern now is the well-being of the kid."

He fumbles when discussing the possibility of children, noting there are other women who have made similar claims. "I don't know of any others that could be true," he said. He denied he had paid money to Tamara Rotolo, a California woman who claimed she had a daughter, Jazmin, by the prince 13 years ago.

Ms. Rotolo made a paternity claim shortly after the child was born, he said, but after an American court dismissed the case, he thought the matter had gone away. Since the story of young Alexandre hit the press, though, he said she had contacted his lawyer again.

"Other people will jump on the bandwagon," he said, chalking it up to the large number of women he has known over the years and of being in the public eye.
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Thanks, LadyM. So he doesn't own a yacht. I wonder whatever happened to the Mogambo though. That article mentioned Jazmin Grace Grimaldi......... I've been wondering about her since the news of Alexandre came out. Is Jazmin his daughter? Has he publicly acknowledged that or is that just an unacknowledged/ignored rumor?
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Thanks, LadyM. So he doesn't own a yacht. I wonder whatever happened to the Mogambo though. That article mentioned Jazmin Grace Grimaldi......... I've been wondering about her since the news of Alexandre came out. Is Jazmin his daughter? Has he publicly acknowledged that or is that just an unacknowledged/ignored rumor?
I tried to find the yacht registries to see if I could locate anything on them and wasn't able to. I understand it to read in his interview that Jazmin is not his child nor are there any others kids only woman making similar claims. That Tamara contacted his attorney again after the story of Alexandre came out and was expecting more by saying this "Other people will jump on the bandwagon,". Honestly I feel sorry for him have all along due to how people on this Board and others have gone on about what a this and that he was. He was unfairly criticized. You know when you are it does hurt.

I want to say this. Albert even though I believed in you all along having heard the denial was made years ago I want to apologize to you for anyone who might have offended you from this Board since many I have considered friends. I'm sorry for any hurt to you as I know your reputation was in fact harmed.
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I tried to find the yacht registries to see if I could locate anything on them and wasn't able to. I understand it to read in his interview that Jazmin is not his child nor are there any others kids only woman making similar claims. That Tamara contacted his attorney again after the story of Alexandre came out and was expecting more by saying this "Other people will jump on the bandwagon,". Honestly I feel sorry for him have all along due to how people on this Board and others have gone on about what a this and that he was. He was unfairly criticized. You know when you are it does hurt.

I want to say this. Albert even though I believed in you all along having heard the denial was made years ago I want to apologize to you for anyone who might have offended you from this Board since many I have considered friends. I'm sorry for any hurt to you as I know your reputation was in fact harmed.
Yes, it hurts a lot when no one believes you. I don't know anything about the situation. I never paid attention to the Jazmin story, basically due to lack of interest, but of course, after he confirmed his fatherhood of Alex, I remembered Jazmin and was just curious.... of course, it makes complete sense that Jazmin really is not his child, not just from what he said in that article, but also from his actions. If he stuck his neck out for Alex, why wouldn't he do the same for his daughter, who is now 13? There is only one logical answer: She is not his daughter. Which leads to so many other questions, doesn't it? Among many...... 1) Who is this Tamara Rotolo? 2) When did she date Albert, for how long? 3) Does she sincerely believe he is the father or is she just hoping for some compensation and a little fame to go along with it? 4) How could a woman do that to her daughter? I am not calling her a liar or judging her because I don't know any of the particulars, but if she making this whole thing up, I feel very sorry for her 13-year-old daughter, for Tamara must have Jazmin believing the "lie" and if Jazmin thinks Albert is her dad, she must be very hurt that her father won't acknowledge or meet her, and she is being deprived of knowing her real father!
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