General News & Information: Prince Albert & Princess Charlene 1: July 2011 - Feb.2012

[Sancia]

Under Catholic cannon law, he cannot remarry unless he is a widow.

If he divorces, then he is free to marry another under common law.

Except if one of them gets a declaration of invalidity of the wedding.

 

[Renata4711]

I like the "cannon law". Are these the cannons on the ramparts of the Grimaldi Palace ?

There is, however, also Church Law, known as "canon law", as in "canonical", "canonisation" etc.

 

[Boris]

And we don't know how difficult it is to get a judge's order for a paternity test. Or is there no such order? And if there is, why is this not published as a fact? We read only about rumours. Rumours from sources the media deems reliable but still only rumours.

Once again:
The Palace officially confirmed the day after the wedding that Prince Albert is facing the paternity lawsuit of "at least" one other woman over fathering an illegitimate child.

 

[Sancia]

Once again:
The Palace officially confirmed the day after the wedding that Prince Albert is facing the paternity lawsuit of "at least" one other woman over fathering an illegitimate child.

I didn't find any confirmation on Internet. Was a statement issued?

 

[Zonk]

Please note that all speculative comments about a potential divorce will be deleted going forward.

 

[Jacknch]

It's just such a complicated mess of rumour and speculation and possibilities! If Albert has fathered yet another child whether it be before, during or since the engagement to Charlene, I just sincerely hope that now he is married he will remain faithful (if he hasn't already been) to Charlene and draw a line under what has or has not happened. It's easy to pass judgement on Albert and although I do like him, I find myself thinking that Monaco deserves better than to have a sort of ageing playboy as head of state! He does, however, seems to remain popular with the people. I suspect that Charlene will be a great and dignified asset to her new country and Albert will be well aware that he has a good woman by his side to keep him on the straight and narrow!
The wedding has given me a renewed interest in Monaco and its royal family.

 

[Boris]

I didn't find any confirmation on Internet. Was a statement issued?

The Palace did not issue a press release, but according to every current media source the Palace confirmed officially; the official is quoted as saying:
''The truth of the rumour is that The Prince faces paternity tests following a claim by at least one former lover.”

Links to two from many articles on the matter:
Princess Charlene of Monaco 'tried to flee three times' - Telegraph
Monaco Royal Couple Headed For SA But Paternity Tests Await : NewsTime : World News

 

[Sancia]

The Palace did not issue a press release, but according to every current media source the Palace confirmed officially; the official is quoted as saying:
''The truth of the rumour is that The Prince faces paternity tests following a claim by at least one former lover.”

Links to two from many articles on the matter:
Princess Charlene of Monaco 'tried to flee three times' - Telegraph
Monaco Royal Couple Headed For SA But Paternity Tests Await : NewsTime : World News

Thanks!
As I said before, I don't trust very much le Journal du Dimanche and le Parisien, and no serious french papers wrote about this paternity test. So, for the moment, I am doubtful (but wouldn't be surprised if it appeared to be true).

 

[Mirabel]

My heart goes out to Charlene. Stories like these don't stay around for that long unless there is some truth in them. It goes a long way to explaine why she looked so removed from the whole thing yesterday. What a mess.

I don't feel that way; in my opinion she has shown that she is willing to put up with ANYTHING for the sake of a title and a royal lifestyle. She's gone into this with her eyes wide open so I can't pity her.

 

[Madame Royale]

she is willing to put up with ANYTHING for the sake of a title and a royal lifestyle.

Care to share her motivations with us as you're evidently aware of them...

 

[Elisheva]

Many words can be spent on this matter, but to me body language says more: this is a complicated start of two people who perhaps love each other but who somehow will have a difficult time to make the marriage work. In time the problem will be solved, either by an early divorce or by natural causes, for he is 20 years her senior.

 

[Mirabel]

Care to share her motivations with us as you're evidently aware of them...

A woman with any self-respect would have walked. JMO.

 

[Zonk]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, just don't state said opinions as fact unless you have documentation to support such statements.

 

[Sancia]

A woman with any self-respect would have walked. JMO.

And a woman can may be not stand the idea she will forever be the one who spoiled the wedding who was long waited for by millions of people.

 

[Sister Morphine]

Charlene is Charlene and I am myself......and there's no way I would marry man who had two illegitimate children already, and was facing a paternity test because of another. Especially if the paternity test was concerning a child conceived and born in the time that we were together. I don't care if they were just dating, or if they were engaged....if you're with someone, you're with them. That means you don't go sleeping around with other people and say "Well, we weren't engaged, so it's not like I was committed to her or anything." Horsepuckey.

Sorry, but no title and no jewels and no palace would make me marry a man like that.

 

[Al_bina]

A woman with any self-respect would have walked. JMO.

Perhaps ... Charlene, Princess of Monaco, followed Mrs. Rodham Clinton's example.

 

[Mirabel]

Perhaps she did. And I still say, a woman with any self-respect would have walked.

 

[grevinnan]

Many words can be spent on this matter, but to me body language says more: this is a complicated start of two people who perhaps love each other but who somehow will have a difficult time to make the marriage work. In time the problem will be solved, either by an early divorce or by natural causes, for he is 20 years her senior.

Or it may be solved by finding common ground for a healthful and loving relationship.

We only see the side that the press is releasing but Charlene also has access to the other side, namely Albert's side of the story. He has been single for 50+ years and quite active in his amorous life. The most disturbing part of the story is the potential unborn child which would mean it was conceived during the engangement period.

Sometimes the person you love the most is the one you can not live with or live without. My heart goes out to Charlene and I hope she has a solid support system in place.

 

[Grace chic]

A woman with any self-respect would have walked. JMO.

I think the whole point of the many stories going around is that she did her best to walk many times . However small Monaco is the Gromaldi's are a powerful family.I feel we will only learn the real story in a few years and I fear it will not be pretty. So far no one is coming out of these rumours well. The whole thing makes me sick.

 

[FanofMonaco]

Charlene had many chances to walk: when she did the Miramar mile in S. Africa this spring, when she went to Athens just a week ago. Forcibly holding someone is a very serious charge; similar to kidnapping. I find it hard to believe that the governments of France and S. Africa would abet such a thing. That would make them accessories to the crime.

 

[Zonk]

Charlene had many chances to walk: when she did the Miramar mile in S. Africa this spring, when she went to Athens just a week ago. Forcibly holding someone is a very serious charge; similar to kidnapping. I find it hard to believe that the governments of France and S. Africa would abet such a thing. That would make them accessories to the crime.

Has there been any type of evidence which supports such a claim that Charlene was/is being held against her will. Everyone keeps talking about it and with no disrespect to the French newspaper....where is the proof?

What I find it alarming is everyone is making a VERY SERIOUS accusations(against Monaco, the French police, Prince Albert, etc.) but no one is providing anything that supports such a claim. In the US, that in itself would be a lawsuit as well as criminal charges (i.e. defamation of character and kidnapping).

I think it would be wise NOT TO RUSH TO JUDGEMENT until the FACTS become known.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Love reading all your comments. This is the BEST FORUM EVER!

I cannot explain why, but I really like this couple and wish only the best for them.

I don't dislike the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge but I have no interest in them. The papers are full of them at the moment (William/Catherine). I so DISLIKE all the negative articles from the British Press about the Foreign Royals .... they love to belittle them. The British Royal Family are hardly free from scandal themselves.

I love the BRF and I love the British...but I do not love their air of smug superiority toward other Royal families.

When CP Victoria married last summer in that dazzling wedding, one Brit paper seized the opportunity to mock the groom's lowly background and to speculate about Carl Philip's soft porn girlfriend...it was almost as if they were jealous of Sweden for pulling off such a magnificent, successful wedding.

How would British Royal weddings and funerals look if none of the foreign Royalty attended again and decided to boycott?

Very provincial indeed.

In my mind, all of these people(modern Royalty) are in the same boat..forced to justify their existence to an increasingly apathetic public.

 

[nascarlucy]

It seems odd why now a paternity claim has been brought. The time of it seems rather suspect to me.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

In the US, that in itself would be a lawsuit as well as criminal charges (i.e. defamation of character and kidnapping).

I think Albert will refrain from suing because at least part of the accusations will be correct (more illigitimate children)

 

[Zonk]

I think Albert will refrain from suing because at least part of the accusations will be correct (more illigitimate children)

I am not sure how it works in France and/or Monaco, but he can limit the claim. Its one thing IMO to suggest that he has fathered an illegtimate child (which can be proven or disproven by a DNA test) its quite another to state that he held someone against their will. That is very serious and a bigger issue than the cheating.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

I am not sure how it works in France and/or Monaco, but he can limit the claim. Its one thing IMO to suggest that he has fathered an illegtimate child (which can be proven or disproven by a DNA test) its quite another to state that he held someone against their will. That is very serious and a bigger issue than the cheating.

Well, he wont do it because if Prince Albert II Sovereign of Monaco will sue papers because of claims that he prevented his bride from running away before the wedding, people will pay even more attention to the topic than they have done so far and it will make world-wide headlines for months until court decision. Not a good idea. And then, if the other part is true and there are more children out of wedlock, people may chose to believe the runaway story anyway, no matter what is proven in court or not. Its pointless, really.

 

[Sancia]

Has there been any type of evidence which supports such a claim that Charlene was/is being held against her will. Everyone keeps talking about it and with no disrespect to the French newspaper....where is the proof?

What I find it alarming is everyone is making a VERY SERIOUS accusations(against Monaco, the French police, Prince Albert, etc.) but no one is providing anything that supports such a claim. In the US, that in itself would be a lawsuit as well as criminal charges (i.e. defamation of character and kidnapping).

I think it would be wise NOT TO RUSH TO JUDGEMENT until the FACTS become known.

A clue to understand how the french judicial system works: in France, the defamation is punishable as well and there could be a judicial inquiry before an eventual trial if a complaint is lodged. However, most of time, when a paper claims something writing "I have proofs but I will protect my sources", if the people involved (here: the french police) know that it is true, there is no complaint because they know proofs will be given during the trial so that the journalist is discharged. No lawsuit often means that everything is true but someone had rather not all the details displayed in all the medias.
As for the kidnapping and potential accusations against police and Albert II, the Prince has a diplomatic immunity and can not be prosecuted, and it is very difficult to sue policemen for a crime, even when everything can be proved.

That is not an indication about the truth of the story. Everyone here knows my opinion on the subject so I won't re-write it but it can help to understand how everything can be interpreted.

I am not sure how it works in France and/or Monaco, but he can limit the claim. Its one thing IMO to suggest that he has fathered an illegtimate child (which can be proven or disproven by a DNA test) its quite another to state that he held someone against their will. That is very serious and a bigger issue than the cheating.

Alas, there have already been stories of people hold against their will (to prevent them to demonstrate during a presidential visit, for example - this happened this year) and this has not been a big scandal nor a very big issue in the news. Most of the people are fuming when they learn this but no one has the pluck to protest too openly.

 

[Princess of Durham]

I have to wonder about these "palace officials" who seem to take it upon themselves to make statements to the press. Who are they and are their statements "approved"?

One of the problems I see is that with the history will PA constantly be battling accusations. It would not be fair to expect the man to be subjected to paternity testing on a frequent basis, though it seems he may be vulnerable to those demands no matter how faithful he is. Other than having cameras following him all the time or never being out of sight of Charlene how is the man to be protected ?

 

[olebabs]

He has open himself up to these kind of allegations, by sleeping with women witout using protection. No one can blame him for seeking companionship before he got engaged, but the consequences is so easily provented. It shows poor judgment on his part, that he apparantly have continued this behavior even when in a relationship. I sincerly hope that Charlene is compensated in other ways for agreeing to marry him, poor girl.

 

[CrownPrincess5]

Charlene is Charlene and I am myself......and there's no way I would marry man who had two illegitimate children already, and was facing a paternity test because of another. Especially if the paternity test was concerning a child conceived and born in the time that we were together. I don't care if they were just dating, or if they were engaged....if you're with someone, you're with them. That means you don't go sleeping around with other people and say "Well, we weren't engaged, so it's not like I was committed to her or anything." Horsepuckey.

Sorry, but no title and no jewels and no palace would make me marry a man like that.

You took the words out of my mouth!! There's no way I'd marry a playboy like that. I have zero tolerance for men like Albert. No palace, no title, no jewels could get me to join my life with such a man. Maybe Charlene felt like marriage would change him. But once a player always a player. Or maybe she wanted to be a princess so badly. I don't know. I have a feeling Char's in for a bumpy ride.