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01-12-2003, 11:22 PM
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Sorry i forgot the pictures!! Here they are
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01-13-2003, 01:38 AM
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Eeek! Charlotte looks....emaciated! I mean she's muscular from riding but my word she's skinny! Ok, do we know if she has grown any taller? I read that she was between 5'4" and 5'5"....think she's just grown taller and is scrawny because of a growth-spurt?
Thanks for the pics Sassy285 and welcome! Btw, I agree with you...for Charlotte's sake I hope this is a growth spurt and not anorexia.
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01-13-2003, 01:46 AM
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Ooh, I am remembering from the Stars Races and the Horse auction at Fountainbleau (???) how thin she was...I don't have the pics, though...does anyone possibly have them??
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01-13-2003, 01:59 AM
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Pics of a more healthy looking Charlotte from last year...
Photos from Corbis
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01-13-2003, 04:44 AM
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Yes. She is anorexic.
I don't think it is possible for a woman to have abs like that under normal circumstances and be healthy. Yes Janet Jackson does have well defined abs, but Janet's are visible because they are so large. Charlotte's are visible because she is so lean.
From the looks of her, she is < 12% bodyfat. Which is great, for an athletic guy... A woman starts to have health problems if she drops below 18%.
Even if she isn't "starving" anorexic... She is definatly ruining her health.
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01-13-2003, 10:38 AM
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Hello everyone!
These photos are very disturbing. Thank you for posting them Sassy285 and welcome!
I wondered the same thing as Julia-if Charlotte was perhpas going through a little growth spurt, but I can also see her ribs and that is always disturbing. I really hope that she isn't anorexic, but I tend to believe that she is skipping lots of meals and perhaps over-excercising which may be why her abs are so well-defined. I agree with Gog_Magog. I think that she is most likely anorexic or has some type of eating disorder unfortunately. Does anyone think that it could be bulimia or perhaps even a combination of the two disorders?
I wonder if her mother has noticed this yet and what she plans to do about it?
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01-13-2003, 12:55 PM
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She looks like a concentration camp victim :o I would hope that Caroline is doing something to get Charlotte help because that's simply unnatural to be that gaunt.
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01-14-2003, 01:19 AM
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I hope that Caroline takes some sort of action about this soon if she hasn't done so already. Her daughter is unpleasantly thin to say the very least about this. She is just too gaunt for it to be anything other than an eating disorder or illness....And there have been no reports of Charlotte being ill to my knowledge.
If the family pays close attention to the press then perhaps Caroline has seen the magazine article about this found at the beginning of this thread along with the photographs. I certainly hope that someone brought this to her attention if she did not come across it on her own. Sometimes our own eyes are not that objective, but perhaps seeing such media coverage about this may make her think that Charlotte is not merely losing weight..... if Caroline isn't working through this with Charlotte already.
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01-14-2003, 02:02 AM
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I am a member of a few charlotte groups at yahoo and everyone there has noticed that charlotte hasnt attended a function in a little while (apart from the horse shows)....i dont know whether this has anythign to do with her dramatic weight loss, like maybe caroline isnt going to let the media get pictures of her so not to cause a big scandel...i dont think it would help her recovery having the entire world know.
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01-14-2003, 08:47 PM
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Looking at those pictures again just disturbs me. I cannot imagine that Caroline would not notice her daughter's condition and not do something about it. Perhaps, that is why Charlotte has been in the spotlight less these days.
Charlotte began having terrible falls at competitions the thinner she got and from experience I know that you have to be incredibly fit and healthily strong to be a competent and effective horsewoman. I am sure that her emaciated condition played a great role in her falls and injuries( chipped tooth, knocked out and a broken leg???). If she continues to compete in this unhealthy condition she could be even more badly injured than she has already been.
I sincerely hope that Charlotte gets treatment (if she is indeed anorexic) and is able to get through this tough time in her life. It's got to be murder being Princess Caroline's daughter.
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01-14-2003, 10:06 PM
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Poor girl, i didn't relize it looking at the first set of pictures how this she was. But then looking at the newer ones posted I would have to agree with everyone that she does have an eating disorder. I hope she can get help. And I hope she can relize that she is beautiful as she is and doesn't need to be paper thin to achieve that. Best wishes to you charlotte. I hope you get better. And best wishes to her family so that they can have the strength to be able to deal with this in a supporting and loving way as not to push her further away.
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01-22-2003, 01:45 PM
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Wow, She is looking so thin. I hope everything is really ok. I am really hoping for a growth-spert. Regardless I hope she knows how beautiful she is.
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01-27-2003, 02:17 PM
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I think that Charlotte really does have an eating disorder. She looks terribly thin and is hiding her upper body with a large pashmina. The baggy clothes, hiding the body, kind of thing is indicitive of an eating disorder. Her friend (I believe that she is called Valentine Pozzo di Borgo) is not covered up (perhaps she should be...her mum needs to help her dress better) and Charlotte is. There is a major difference between modesty and trying to hide oneself. Quite sad. I hope that Caroline and the rest of her family help her get through this rough time in her life.
Pics from Corbis.com
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01-27-2003, 02:52 PM
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Hi Julia!
Thanks for the pictures. I agree that Charlotte doesn't appear to be herself in these photos. She appears to be behaving a bit strangely. She normally photographs much better and appears to be more relaxed. Also, I wonder why she is so covered up in these photos. Is anyone else wondering what her dress looked like under that shawl?
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01-27-2003, 02:56 PM
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She looks like very uncomfortable. I mean, either she chose a dress that was really awful and she is hiding it's horridness, or she is hiding herself.
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Hi everyone!
This is my first post here; since this is a very interesting topic, I decided to venture into the thrilling world of les Tribunes Royales! Thanks for creating this wonderful forum!
Well, I think there might be a very logical reason when it comes to Charlotte covering herself up with that black pashmina. She is wrapping herself up, because it is quite chilly outside (it seems to me the photos have been taken outside). Today we had new photos of her in a fur collar and it seemed to be cold and rainy at Vincennes.
I do know CC looks a lot skinnier than what she did last year, but so did I when I was 16. Maybe she is losing part of her baby fat, or something like that... What do you guys think?
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01-27-2003, 03:55 PM
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Hello miau and welcome! Glad to see that you could join us!
My first speculation at Charlotte's gaunt appearence was that she was indeed in the middle of a growth spurt and was losing her baby fat (as you well put it!). Now, I am not so sure. Yes, you are quite correct in saying that she could be using her pashmina to shield herself from the cold but isn't she still quite covered up once inside? If you look at her wrist in one of the photos posted, the wrist bone is protruding. Maybe she is just going through a gawky phase and is embarrassed about it (I truly hope so).
Caroline was really chubby at this age and even when she was 18, 19 years old she still remained on the chubby side. Philippe Junot was supposedly to have said the following after having met her in Paris as they were leaving Regine's: "Come on, fatty". No kidding! I have not seen photos of her paternal grandmama so I have no idea if she went through a gawky phase as well (Grace wasn't even gawky at 16...disgusting!  ). Of course, Charlotte is her own, unique individual so, let's just cross our finger's and pray that she is just "growing up".
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01-27-2003, 04:33 PM
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Hi miau!
Do you have photos of Charlotte at Vincennes?
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01-28-2003, 11:07 AM
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Hi Miau and Julia! Thank you for the wonderful compliments Miau and welcome to the forum! :)
Many of us here thought that perhaps Charlotte was going through a major growth spurt and a gawky phase, but over time it seems to be a little more. I certainly hope that Charlotte doesn't have an eating disorder, but it seems unlikely at this point unfortunately. I agree with Julia in that she seems different in these more recent photos (more concerned about the camera and a bit uncomfortable).
I think that she could be wearing the shawl because she was feeling a bit chilly, but I wonder why she still wore it once inside of the building?
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