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Old 11-14-2015, 09:00 AM
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I'm having trouble understand what Charlotte's done to attract the criticism I'm feeling here. Seems to me she broke up with the father of her child and now has a new man on the scene. She's not married to Gad so what's the problem? It seems their relationship was shaky for some time so it shouldn't be a big surprise that they split up. Would it have been better if she'd aborted the child? She's Catholic so I don't think she'd have done that.

Just because she has a child, should she not pursue happiness in her personal life? As long as the child is being looked after, why shouldn't she have a personal life? Is there any evidence she's neglecting her little boy?
My words exactly. What has the poor girl REALLY done? I don't think she deserves all this criticism.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:04 AM
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Charlotte has been criticized by choosing Gad. And now she is being criticized by leaving Gad. I think that for some readers, out of Prince William (already taken) nobody is good for Charlotte.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:46 AM
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Haha, that makes it funny somehow
I remember that she had said in an interview that she can understand Italian and speak some of it, but she is shy..
Well, she could "exploit" the chance of learning some Italian with him.
I think she has other in mind at the moment than learning the language...
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:22 AM
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Wow the judgment on here is messed up.

Charlotte was "catting around"?! Not acting aristocratic enough? Should have married Gad when she found out she was pregnant?

I've always loved these forums since 2003 but once in a while the morality police comes in and they cross the line towards offering their ridiculously silly remarks that border on sexist and are definitely anachronistic. Barf. Some people need to get off their high horse.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:07 AM
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I certainly never want to judge Charlotte even if that's how I come across. I have been following she and her brothers since they were born. Her mother was my style icon when I was growing up. I love watching the Grimaldis...they are endlessly glamorous, beautiful and fascinating to me.

Charlotte was born with many gifts and advantages that others can only fantasize about. I just want to see her utilize them, beat the "Grimaldi curse and find contentment.

I never thought Gad was right for her. But maybe this new guy is. I wish her the best.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:18 AM
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I agree she has made some poor choices and things are a little messy for her at the moment the passionate kissing snaps are rather foolish on her part if only from a media point of view, IMO,
She was also born with a great deal of money and that helps .. it does... to make one freer of the day to day obligations that ordinary folk face.
I hope she finds happiness and stability.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:32 AM
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I agree she has made some poor choices and things are a little messy for her at the moment the passionate kissing snaps are rather foolish on her part if only from a media point of view, IMO,
She was also born with a great deal of money and that helps .. it does... to make one freer of the day to day obligations that ordinary folk face.
I hope she finds happiness and stability.
What poor choises has she made and what things are a little messy? She may not define her choices and things that way at all herself. Or does someone of us here know her personally?
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:32 AM
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The positive think is that actually Rafael is slightly young to surf on the Web, so he won't see this pictures. Charlotte has the freedom to introduce him her new love, whoever he is, when she decides.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:53 AM
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Fandesacs , Raphael has a Father also , I am waiting his reaction !
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:05 PM
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What poor choises has she made and what things are a little messy? She may not define her choices and things that way at all herself. Or does someone of us here know her personally?
We don't know any of the Royals and aristocrats on TRF that we comment on but that's hardly the point, is it? The Forum was created for posters to make personal observations on the lives of these people and to express opinions...as long as they are not vulgar, libelous, violent, etc. And that is what we are doing here.

And my very personal opinion is that it was an exercise of poor judgment for Charlotte and Gad to bring a child into a relationship without a solid, established unit in place. Marriage is no guarantee of success, but it does indicate that parents have at least the intention of creating a safe, secure place for children to grow up within the bonds of a family. They will not have to deal with being passed about and shared between the households of two split up parents, especially as toddlers. Even under the best circumstances that is a stressful situation for young children.

Gad publically proclaimed during the pregnancy that marriage was not the plan. His former partner Anne Brochet-with whom he also shares a son- has hinted that he is unstable emotionally(She wrote a novel that is said to be based on her life and their relationship).

This is only an opinion, and it does not violate any rules of TRF. It goes without saying that others are free to disagree.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:30 PM
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@Moonmaiden: I fully agree. :)
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:33 PM
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It's interesting that Charlotte's new partner is older than her like Gad. I wish them all the best.

I hope Gad will still be involved with Raphael and be with him as he grows up, even if he and Charlotte are no longer together. Otherwise Raphael will hardly remember him when he's older as he is still very young.
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Fandesacs , Raphael has a Father also , I am waiting his reaction !
Of course but I presume that Gad knows he is dumped.
And who knows ? It might be him who split.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:12 PM
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I would have been more surprised if Charlotte and Gad had gotten married and stayed together for decades. If that sort of thing was important to him then presumably he'd still be with the mother of his first son. Also, he's a lot older than Charlotte and they come from very dissimilar backgrounds and don't seem to share many interests.

Additionally, Charlotte's own family has modelled a very different lifestyle compared to the traditional nuclear family. Caroline has had an eventful romantic life but seems to have been a good mother throughout all of it. Albert fathered, (at least), two children before he married and Stephanie literally ran away to join the circus with one of her partners, but again, they both seem to have good relationships with their children. So Charlotte has seen first hand that unconventional choices don't need to be a disaster for the children involved.

Finally, and maybe most importantly, Charlotte doesn't need Gad for anything. She's good looking, seems reasonably smart, very wealthy and has all the social and family connections anyone could ever ask for. I know there are plenty of long term marriages that are truly happy ones, but there are also many that are made to work in spite of unhappiness because one of the spouses - often the woman - is financially dependent on the other. Charlotte obviously doesn't have to make that kind of bargain and, IMO, if it's clear the relationship isn't working it's better to get out now and establish a civil co-parenting partnership than stick it out and have everyone be miserable for years.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:35 PM
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I think Charlotte knew from the beginning that Gad would remain Gad and not change his lifestyle. There never was marriage and a 'normal' life on the cards.
She probably wanted a child and Gad was fine with it, having set the boundaries.
Maybe Charlotte had hoped that fatherhood would change him and realized at some point that it wouldn't. They spent a lot of time separated due to Gad's work and whatever had brought them together wore off quickly, maybe in the end splitting doesn't make much of a difference, neither for Charlotte nor Raphael.

I agree with the poster who earlier said that Charlotte always has the next man in sight, she can't be on her own for long, I see her as quite needy in terms of constant attention. Gad isn't the guy to provide that in the long run.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:36 PM
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Maybe Charlotte doesn't need Gad, but Gad didn't need Charlotte either. Maybe one of the problems in their relationship was that Gad was a big star, a self-made man, who had made his career himself and his popularity is growing all the time. And another problem might have been that they didn't have time together. Gad is a busy man and travels a lot due to his shows and filming. For instance, now Gad is over 10 days in USA in November, and also in USA and Canada in December.
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...60760229_o.jpg

And Gad is performing in Joe's Pub in New York in January, February and almost the whole March.
Joe's Pub Gad Elmaleh
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:29 PM
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She has money, beauty, glamour, style... But this is cheap. She would like to show in all interview, how intelligent she is, but her behavior shows something other...
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:42 PM
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Maybe Charlotte doesn't need Gad, but Gad didn't need Charlotte either. Maybe one of the problems in their relationship was that Gad was a big star, a self-made man, who had made his career himself and his popularity is growing all the time. And another problem might have been that they didn't have time together. Gad is a busy man and travels a lot due to his shows and filming. For instance, now Gad is over 10 days in USA in November, and also in USA and Canada in December.
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...60760229_o.jpg

And Gad is performing in Joe's Pub in New York in January, February and almost the whole March.
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:46 PM
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These are forums where we share our opinions about members of royal families - we are entitled to criticise if we want. Personally, I think it's up to Charlotte to make her own decisions about her life - children, marriage (which by the way doesn't always indicate a greater commitment to each other, IMO), career. However, I do think she gives the impression of not really knowing what she wants and of defining herself by the man she is with eg. academic, civil service aspirations with Felix, arty bohemian hipster pursuits with Alex, "celebrity" showbiz type of life with Gad.
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