Charlene Wittstock Current Events 6 : Aug.2006 - Nov.2006

[Lillia]

Hi Windsor! I was having one of my daydreams and I thought I wonder if he is telling CW don't mind all these other women, it's just a cover for us to protect our relationship from the press!!!! I know delusional! What else can it be?

Yes, I think that must be it. PA is testing Charlene's loyalty to him and making a cover with other women to throw everybody off the path!

Charlene Wittstock pictured at Nice Airport, France, on September 4, 2006. She's watching the VOICI's cover with Prince Albert II of Monaco and a woman.

Oh my, isn't this the same type thing that send PA former girlfriend over the edge?

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

While Charlene is not my definition of attractive. She is a swimmer and therefore has a swimmer's body. But here is a question...Albert IMO is not a looker himself..why does she get all the criticisms. While everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions...if we are going strictly off looks...he is not a George Clooney, David Beckham, Denzel Washington or whoever you define as "Hot."

I have to say there are those who would disagree with you regarding Albert's looks since I find him more attractive then those you mentioned its personal taste. I think Charlene is mostly disliked by board members due to her actions in private caught on film and talking to the press. She isn't meeting the standards they have as to what a Princess of Monaco should be. Just my opinion. It's not likely Albert will find another Grace Kelly type.

Oh my, isn't this the same type thing that send PA former girlfriend over the edge?

You must be speaking of Nicole and getting pregnant the same night she learned about Alicia.

 

[Grace]

I have to say there are those who would disagree with you regarding Albert's looks since I find him more attractive then those you mentioned its personal taste. I think Charlene is mostly disliked by board members due to her actions in private caught on film and talking to the press. She isn't meeting the standards they have as to what a Princess of Monaco should be. Just my opinion. It's not likely Albert will find another Grace Kelly type.

I totally agree about taste: someone might find Albert the most attractive man in the world; anyway, the same principle should apply to Charlene: to some she might be more attractive than Sharon Stone or Grace Kelly even. Still we might agree that objectively speaking (as objective as this things can be) Brad Pitt is more beautiful than Albert, just like Grace was more beautiful than Charlene. This does not imply we all have to like Brad Pitt...Thank God for differences of taste. I think the point of Zonk's post (correct me if I'm wrong) was that we tend to judge women by their looks much more than we do with men, so we expect any man with money or power to be with an Angelina Jolie, even when he is no Brad Pitt...and on that I totally agree!

Kisses

 

[jabilo]

I totally agree about taste: someone might find Albert the most attractive man in the world; anyway, the same principle should apply to Charlene: to some she might be more attractive than Sharon Stone or Grace Kelly even. Still we might agree that objectively speaking (as objective as this things can be) Brad Pitt is more beautiful than Albert, just like Grace was more beautiful than Charlene. This does not imply we all have to like Brad Pitt...Thank God for differences of taste. I think the point of Zonk's post (correct me if I'm wrong) was that we tend to judge women by their looks much more than we do with men, so we expect any man with money or power to be with an Angelina Jolie, even when he is no Brad Pitt...and on that I totally agree!

Kisses

Well for those who find prince albert the most attractive man in the world..................then again I don't even know what to say. Prince albert to me only looks nice to some people because of whom he is and is one of the only reasons why he is able to date some of the women he has. But i also understand its his age although for someone with so much money, he should have been able to avoid that belly. You would think with all those activities in sports he likes to do he could have been able to maintain an athletic body, but i guess somethings are just unavoidable. He did look nice when he was younger. But again this is just me.

 

[sm1939]

what did Charlene say to the press that makes some people not warm to her ? and also what did she do that was caught on camera ???

 

[Donna]

what did Charlene say to the press that makes some people not warm to her ? and also what did she do that was caught on camera ???

Please read Charlene Wittstock Current Events part 1-6

 

[Tosca]

But i also understand its his age although for someone with so much money, he should have been able to avoid that belly

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What if Albert's belly was sort of a "constitutional disease?"? If so, there's no sport activity that can enable him to get rid of it.

 

[Zonk]

Thank you Grace..that is exactly what I mean. It appears to be the old double standard surfaces when speaking about June/December relationships. Girl can be somewhat young and attractive dating an older somewhat distinguished man...the first thing anyone says is that she is dating/marrying him for his money (as if that is the only thing she could be interested in) and he is dating her for her youth and looks (as if that is the only thing he could be interested in).

 

[hibou]

Yes, I think that must be it. PA is testing Charlene's loyalty to him and making a cover with other women to throw everybody off the path!



Oh my, isn't this the same type thing that send PA former girlfriend over the edge?

That is what Nicole indicated in her interview. I believe she said she was in an airport when she saw the photos of Alicia on magazine covers saying she would be the next princess of monaco. I find the timing of the new magazine covers odd since Charlene would be in an airport (coming or going) and possibily see them which she did.

 

[pinklady1991]

Thank you Grace..that is exactly what I mean. It appears to be the old double standard surfaces when speaking about June/December relationships. Girl can be somewhat young and attractive dating an older somewhat distinguished man...the first thing anyone says is that she is dating/marrying him for his money (as if that is the only thing she could be interested in) and he is dating her for her youth and looks (as if that is the only thing he could be interested in).

Yet the same can be said when a young, handsome man is dating a much older woman. Women are said to date these men so they can feel young again which is why men date younger women. More often than not, the May-December relationship is older man and younger woman but you can't generalize. Women probably tend to shy away from these relationships because of the stigma attached and their own feelings of discomfort. But sometimes May-December works. I guess with Albert and Charlene there are a great many disparities (social class, monetary, education, etc) and not just age which raise eyebrows. While opposites attract I think they can also be much more combustible. JMO.

 

[Siggy]

I think Albert would do well to look at Prince Charles' life. Charles married Diana who was far too young for him and was miserable, now he is so much happier. I was and am a great admirer of Diana, but as with Charlene the age gap was / is just too great.
Maybe Albert should look for someone more his age who would be an asset to Monaco, not by being a beautiful clothes horse, but by being a good partner to him, she could be a business woman, she does not have to be beautiful, just elegant and confident. In fact if she was not beautiful it would stop comparisons with his mother Grace.

 

[Neat2912]

Quote"...I find the timing of the new magazine covers..Charlene in an airport coming or going" Uh huh. Strange. But careful Neat no speculation.

Well, I'd just like to know weren't there other visitors (foreign visitors!!) visiting MC around that time?

 

[covdm]

Charlene Wittstock at the swimming pool in Monaco.(via tinypic)

Pictures are from Olycom

http://i5.tinypic.com/483wi29.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/2qs6ip1.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/29disuc.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/2h7gmci.jpg

 

[Her_Majesty]

I am not very into the RF of Monaco; so just a question:

Is Charlene still an active swimmer? So does she still start at competitions?

 

[libra65]

I am not very into the RF of Monaco; so just a question:

Is Charlene still an active swimmer? So does she still start at competitions?

Sorry, I don't think any of us know the answer to that question. Her coach might also be asking the same thing.

 

[paca]

Pictures are from Olycom

http://i5.tinypic.com/483wi29.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/2qs6ip1.jpg
http://i6.tinypic.com/29disuc.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/2h7gmci.jpg

When are these pics supposed to have been taken?

 

[tbhrc]

When are these pics supposed to have been taken?

Those are old ones. Olycom says they were taken on June 30th,2006.

 

[paca]

Thanks, because somehow all these pics of unknown dates start getting confusing. Besides this week swimming started again, so the pool is pretty much high traffic area from now on (or at least it will be starting next week). When the schools aren't using it, the club is.

 

[Her_Majesty]

Sorry, I don't think any of us know the answer to that question. Her coach might also be asking the same thing.

Oh okay! That's not what I expected.
Anyway, Thanks for the answer!

 

[hibou]

I am not very into the RF of Monaco; so just a question:

Is Charlene still an active swimmer? So does she still start at competitions?

The last we heard officially was a small SA news article that quoted her coach at the beginning of August saying she asked for a month off but was still hopeful about making the 2008 Olympics. So in short until we hear something official or it is evident from her actions we won't know.

 

[Lillia]

The last we heard officially was a small SA news article that quoted her coach at the beginning of August saying she asked for a month off but was still hopeful about making the 2008 Olympics. So in short until we hear something official or it is evident from her actions we won't know.

Well, since it looks like she's in Monaco and still going around with Albert (from the dates in the most recent pics anyway #52

), clearly she's not in SA swimming with any of the National Squad just yet. That does not mean she could not join them eventually, I just wonder how long they'll want to wait for her (if they are actually waiting for her, that is).

http://www.swimsa.co.za/default.asp?des=content&id=1

http://www.swimsa.co.za/default.asp?des=article&id=896

http://www.swimsa.co.za/default.asp?des=content&id=827

So, I guess if she does leave Monaco, the medias will know about it.

 

[semisquare]

imo-u tell me, if u had no job waiting(none that we know of) , and what u have train for a lot of years was possibly coming to an end again w/o a job waiting ahead of you (again i dont know if she will or does have a job waiting for her). how long would u and what would u put up with?

 

[Lillia]

imo-u tell me, if u had no job waiting(none that we know of) , and what u have train for a lot of years was possibly coming to an end again w/o a job waiting ahead of you (again i dont know if she will or does have a job waiting for her). how long would u and what would u put up with?

that's a good question semi.

i would guess that Team South Africa is not really waiting for CW, but that is just my opinion. think how would u feel if u were an athlete that had been working so hard to place in the sports national and international rankings and then the coaches let someone walk into the games just whenever they felt ready? and they do have rules for when someone has to declare their intentions to swim or not.

imo, team SA is not waiting for CW, and she made a decision to move to Monaco to be an escort/girlfriend/friend/guest for PA, no looking back.

but of course, she could get serious about it and try for next year's squad or she might just stay right where she is going around with Albert - he could ask his friends to make some calls and put her on the Monaco payroll somehow. again, that's just my opinion.

she did get a nice settlement from the lawsuit when PA sued the magazine, so that should give her some money for a while. good for her!

some people would put up with a lot of things for a very long time to live on the rock and go places with Albert (he is a very nice man, i've read), especially if as u say there may not be much else to pick from and if there are any choices, they may not be nearly as interesting.

so staying on at Monaco for as long as possible looks pretty good, doesn't it?

 

[maryellen1539]

so staying on at Monaco for as long as possible looks pretty good, doesn't it?

That's a job or position I would love to have.

 

[Lillia]

That's a job or position I would love to have.

me too maryellen1539! it seems like a really nice and take it easy life!!

sunshine, parties, get to dress up and go to nice places, eat haute cuisine at private dinners, live in haute apartments, hang out with the jet set and meet interesting people, if someone takes the wrong picture and publishes it, you can get some nice spending money for your purse.

all the fab perks with no serious responsibility or commitment to anything at all except having fun...

it's awsome, imo!

all CW needs to do is be nice and keep Albert from getting bored and not get herself all crazy.

she could stay in MC and be one of his escort (or the escort) for a long time.

 

[sriwadee]

What I think are…

1. PA will not get marry with CW. It is very shame for him to pick CW because most crown princes always pick good women with good education (leave Norway alone). Moreover, P. Rainier said that most Europe crown princes don’t like his son. You can see from the day that PA was enthronement……..
- Only crown prince of Lichtenstein and crown princess of Sweden came to Monaco.
- Denmark, UK, and Luxembourg represented by brother, brother with wife, and son.
- Spain, Belgium, Norway, and Holland …………..…!!!!!!
Seem like PA lost his face and I think PA knows what that mean.

So, if he gets marry with CW, he probably knows what will happen to his wedding day!!!!!!

2. Since Olympic in Turin, CW never looks good in public eyes, and PA doesn’t look good, too. So, PA wants to erase all bad image of CW by taking CW to everywhere and offer good treat with spotlight as CW wants so that she gets good attention from public as she really wants. So, by the end of their official opinion, CW can have good experience and good memory about PA forever.

3. When PA and CW get money from Paris Match for the issue of pre-honeymoon in Maldives, PA will let CW goes. Then, it will probably be the end of their official companion, and PA will find new woman. But if CW doesn’t go, so I don’t know.

4 I think PA wants public attention, too. Just like Grace Kelly who loves spotlights.

 

[lynda]

Sirwadee,
I find your comments interesting. Here is my input regarding your post.

Some of the younger princesses are educated and had careers before they married into royalty. There are some who only had a high school education. As far as Charlene not having a high school diploma remains to be seen. I only read where she did not put emphasis on education. I never read she was a high school drop out. This is what people rumored she is uneducated. Maybe they thought she should be more advanced in education, like a college degree since she was dating a prince.

I have also read where PR had some major concerns about his son. He really wanted PA to settle down and have a family. I read where he told PA it is lonely at the top. To have a wife would eliminate the loneliness. PR also told him to watch out for his enemies because there are a lot of people who will pretend they like him but really do not. There are a lot of mean spirited people in the royal circle that will snub him because of his inheritance. PR told PA to protect himself in certain situations because people will judge him. This was good advice PR gave his son. PA was very protected by his father. PR was seasoned and experienced from being a prince of Monaco many years. During his ruling, PR was aware of the types of people his son would encounter. PR met people from all walks of life during his ruling of Monaco. He could smell a fake from a mile long. I truly believe this is why he constantly counseled his son to be cognizant of the people he associated with, especially women. His father disliked most of the women PA associated with probably because they were not sincere.

PA stated that he missed his mother because she could have given him guidance. It is sad he missed out on this guidance. It would have helped him handle his affairs.

PA stated he will not marry in the near or distant future. What’s his reason for prolonging marriage, who knows? People are not privy to what goes on behind closed doors, they only know what is speculated and rumored by the media. Please beware of the media planting seeds in the mind. The information does not always bear good fruits. However, I will remain optimistic that one day he will get married and have a family.

PA will not marry Charlene because he made that announcement while actively involved with her. If his intimate feelings were strong, he would not have made that statement. She is his companion for now and when they both get tired of the relationship, both will move on. This is MHO.

I do agree with you when you stated PA wants public acceptance. Who accepts being shunned or constantly criticized for everything they do? The media feels he created this cesspool of chaos. It is easy to find fault when not being in the situation. PA is not perfect. People put him on this pedestal, he never requested to be. People call him slurry names and say he is a disgrace or worthless. It is very convenient to criticize someone by being a bystander or a heckler sitting in the audience, once you step on stage, you get a different perspective. I enjoyed reading your post

 

[Lakshmi]

Lynda, great post.

 

[Jo of Palatine]

What I think are…

1. PA will not get marry with CW. It is very shame for him to pick CW because most crown princes always pick good women with good education (leave Norway alone). .

Crown Princess Mette-Marit has finished high school with a diploma that allowed her access to the university and is currently enrolled as student at Oslo university where she studies at the faculty of Social Sciences and Arts. Of course being a mother of three and a representative for Norway does not allow for full-times studies but I'm convinced that the princess in due time will pass an exam for an academic degree.

As for her not being a "good" woman - that lies in the eyes of the beholder and those who pass judgment should be aware that they will be judged themselves one day.

 

[hibou]

Crown Princess Mette-Marit has finished high school with a diploma that allowed her access to the university and is currently enrolled as student at Oslo university where she studies at the faculty of Social Sciences and Arts. Of course being a mother of three and a representative for Norway does not allow for full-times studies but I'm convinced that the princess in due time will pass an exam for an academic degree.

As for her not being a "good" woman - that lies in the eyes of the beholder and those who pass judgment should be aware that they will be judged themselves one day.

First, nice post Lynda. Jo my problem with Charlene is her behavior when she is with Albert. From what I know of Mette-Marit she has worked hard to overcome her past and has not done anything to insult the Crown so I have not fault with her. Charlene has not let us know what she is currently doing that includes what might be left of her swimming career. She has allowed herself to be portrayed as a party girl in the present tense. Mette-Marit put that image well behind her before their engagement was announced. Smart girl.