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Old 07-20-2006, 05:31 PM
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At the Hola.com website there is a headline saying that it looks like the engagement between PA and Charlene will be announce soon, and that they have 5 reasons to prove it , (sorry I don't subscribe to the magazine if somebody is please post the entire article I'll be happy to translate):)
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:53 PM
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At the Hola.com website there is a headline saying that it looks like the engagement between PA and Charlene will be announce soon, and that they have 5 reasons to prove it , (sorry I don't subscribe to the magazine if somebody is please post the entire article I'll be happy to translate):)
Oh dear, this lack of events during summer holidays must be getting to them. In all his recent interviews Albert has said that he hasn't found the right person yet and even went to actually deny this rumour in the local press. What else does the poor guy have to do so that people stop writing up this rubbish and rehashing false information. Wear a billboard round his neck: no I am not about to get married to Charlene, because I am having too much of a good time with other women?
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:57 PM
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That will be a fashion "statement"

Hola it's been slow in royal news lately.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:03 AM
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New link to Gala http://www.gala.fr/contenu_editorial...que.php?rub=10
Translation :: ALBERT & CHARLENE Monaco the Marie already! An obvious happiness, favorable stars and especially a series of indices which do not mislead… The principality, in effervescence, hopes to see the sovereign prince convoler in right weddings this autumn. By Coraline Lussac
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Old 07-21-2006, 09:55 AM
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Oh dear, this lack of events during summer holidays must be getting to them. In all his recent interviews Albert has said that he hasn't found the right person yet and even went to actually deny this rumour in the local press. What else does the poor guy have to do so that people stop writing up this rubbish and rehashing false information. Wear a billboard round his neck: no I am not about to get married to Charlene, because I am having too much of a good time with other women?
I have to agree with Paca...it's slow during the summer and the editors/publishers must be looking at what issues sold particularly well and then rehashing those articles. I can't access the article either but I wonder if it's a re-run of the article that ran in Bunte and Hola last spring??? Weren't there five clues there as well including Charlene's taking French lessons and starting the process of converting to Catholicism? Sorry if this is just speculation since I can't see the article, but JMO.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:16 AM
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Ladies, I agree with your comments 100%. I guess the marketing division of this tabloid is trying to push sales and there is no better way to boost sales than to start the speculation of PA and CW again. :)
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:27 AM
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German Bild Zeitung has had a little interview with CWs father. Oh, excuse me "Albert's possible father-in-law" : http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/leute/aktuell/2006/07/23/albert-schwiegervater/albert-schwiegervater.html

Headline: My daughter doesn't need a sovereign for her happiness.

Bild claims that CW will make an appearance at the red cross ball in August.
IMO Mr. Wittstock is kind of playing the whole thing down. He hasn't met Albert, he doesn't care who CW will marry as long as she happy, she can certainly live without the glitter and glamour and when there's need for it, Albert will surely come over to meet him. Oh, and Mr. Wittstock liked Princess Grace and has followed her life from before she married until she died.

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Weiß er denn schon, ob und wann geheiratet wird? Wittstock lächelt: „Wenn es etwas Wichtiges gibt, wird sie es mir schon rechtzeitig sagen.“
Does he know if and when the marriage will be? Wittstock smiles: "If there's something important to say, she [CW, G.] will surely tell me on time."

Sigh...what a waste of rainforest.

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Old 07-23-2006, 06:11 PM
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How amusing. Doesn't sound like a prospective father-in-law to PA.
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:42 PM
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German Bild Zeitung has had a little interview with CWs father. Oh, excuse me "Albert's possible father-in-law" : http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/leute/aktuell/2006/07/23/albert-schwiegervater/albert-schwiegervater.html

Headline: My daughter doesn't need a sovereign for her happiness.

Bild claims that CW will make an appearance at the red cross ball in August.
IMO Mr. Wittstock is kind of playing the whole thing down. He hasn't met Albert, he doesn't care who CW will marry as long as she happy, she can certainly live without the glitter and glamour and when there's need for it, Albert will surely come over to meet him. Oh, and Mr. Wittstock liked Princess Grace and has followed her life from before she married until she died.



Does he know if and when the marriage will be? Wittstock smiles: "If there's something important to say, she [CW, G.] will surely tell me on time."

Sigh...what a waste of rainforest.

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i read it, too. Seems he's downplaying the whole thing, saying things like, "I dont' care whether Charlene marries a commoner or a prince, as long as she's happy", as if to cover his you-know-what and that of his family as well as Charlene's because they are starting to wake up and smell the coffee that a royal wedding for her is just not in the cards
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:42 PM
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I'm sorry but what is happening? This makes woman-man relations seems like such a joke or a for- the- moment thing? That was a lot of show off/show out doings on the part of the two of them. If this end thing is a fact, Question: Was she not functional, shall we say? Was His Honor in the eyes of the world distancing himself from unowho? If so he went to a lot of trouble and possibly a lot of hurt feelings (feelings of insignificance) to a few individuals. Please does everybody (desired woman) function for the edification of unowho?

Well as they say, we live and learn and life goes on, hopefully.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:25 AM
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Why do I have the feeling that Charlene was told to cool it and that she is letting her family do the "she can do great with or without him" interviews-then when Albert finally does dump her (after the photo lawsuit is settled), she can appear to the media as the one who ended things because he wasn't right for her?

I can definitely see why we don't hear about PA's real girlriends. Anyone who would be a great support for Albert and good for Monaco would not want this much attention until it was necessary.

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Old 07-24-2006, 01:41 PM
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I can't find any interviews or comments by CW- I have heard mention of them several times on this thread and the previous one. Does anyone know the link? I am getting mixed up going through all the pages.

I don't know much about Charlene but I have to wonder about her. I like Albert in general but he's not proven himself the sort of guy you rush to get married to- it just seems like too many skeletons in his closet to come out and embarass his future wife. She must either really love him or his title. I don't know which.

They're sporty together though so that's good that they can have fun together.
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:41 PM
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Quote:"I can definitely see why we don't hear about PA's real girlfriends.

I don't understand how else a "real" anyone of importance would be seen or heard any more. Millions of people ,world -wide olympic viewers saw many, many photo shots; verbal attention from the podium speaker. Dressed up couple meeting, being introduced to English royalty,peers and dignitaries.

Big Maldives romantic pictures, big spectacular birthday celebration. Monaco celebrations. This seemed like, with one improper exception, a very proper,respectful,important relationship. The monarch was in absolute and total charge, control and orchestration, as he mostly always is. Whatever was, was how HSH wanted it, otherwise he h ad only to speak or wave his hand one way or the other. To me,that's total logic.

So here we are, he's still in charge. Whatever the speculation,etc is that's the bottom line, and really that's where the buck stops.
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:40 PM
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Neat, you have more or less put your finger on the thing that bothers me most about Albert: his (IMO) unlogical and inconsistent behaviour. This whole CW thing is a good example of it. Her family talks. A lot. Something that's a no-no when your hanging out with a celeb/royal/prince. Still he keeps seeing her. He says he don't want to subject his girlfriend to the media. What does he do: he takes his girlfriend (mistress?/....?/something) to several public functions. Including an IOC meeting she certainly doesn't belong. He claims he's a private person but I saw a lot of public (friends, waiters) on the Maldives pics. And those pics were somewhat private-ish. (I'm trying to be nice here:) ) A lot, and I mean an awful lot, has been written about CW and Albert, where are all the lawsuits? He keeps awfully quiet on the court cases front. Suspiciously quiet. So quiet that we still haven't heard the outcome of three pending (or silently settled?) cases. And this list goes on and on.

Basically everything about CW & Albert is inconsistent. I don't have an explanation (except the decoy theory) and would love to hear those of others. Oh, and it is driving me slightly crazy. (Sorry, more crazy than I already am that is )

BTW, I find it suspicious that this calming interview from papa Wittstock comes soon after Albert spoke to the local newspaper about the same thing. He too, played the whole thing down. Papa Wittstock may not have met Albert but that doesn't mean they haven't talked on the phone? Or via CW or Mr. Lacoste? Both parties are basically saying the same thing a short time apart. Coordinated, coincidence? Calming things before the announcement? Albert certainly won't say that he's going to announce his engagement next month, so if he is or if he isn't, the answers are going to be the same anyway.

Hey, I'm an X-files fan: Deceive, inveigle and obfuscate....

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Old 07-24-2006, 04:59 PM
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Why do I have the feeling that Charlene was told to cool it and that she is letting her family do the "she can do great with or without him" interviews-then when Albert finally does dump her (after the photo lawsuit is settled), she can appear to the media as the one who ended things because he wasn't right for her?

I can definitely see why we don't hear about PA's real girlriends. Anyone who would be a great support for Albert and good for Monaco would not want this much attention until it was necessary.

Ann
My thoughts exactly. Her father was so totally into saying how lucky she was to be with PA and how she didn't care about his past affairs and she wasn't clinging to PA, but she wants to be the only one that PA would be dating.

Now his stance seems like 'oh well, she can take it or leave it, whatever she wants to do as long as she's happy.'

Good thing CW family is with her for this roller coaster ride, they can help her to manage it all. imo, CW and PA have some kind of agreement that he helps her by introducing her around in the right circles and at the same time she helps him scrub his image by escorting him around a few places and appearing in some pics with him. I also think they are in some kind of relation of sort.

For better or worse, CW made her own grown up decision when she decided to carry on with PA, nobody forced her to do anything. And nobody knows what's going on with PA and CW except PA and CW. Only time will tell on this...

but did pere Wittstock say too much too soon? I just hope CW makes the absolute most of the connections so she can make a nice place for herself no matter what PA decides to do (or not do). :)

We'll have to just wait and see...
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:45 PM
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Papa Wittstock may not have met Albert but that doesn't mean they haven't talked on the phone? Or via CW or Mr. Lacoste?
I don't think he has talked to Albert. in the interview he says he is willing to meet Albert wherever and whenever he choses. That doesn't sound to me like they ever had contact. To me it sounds like he is asking him for a duell on the field of honour. And that is what he is trying to do IMO with this whole interview. He is trying to protect his daughters (and family's) honour. He is pretty clumsy about is, but then again he doesn't have years of training to deal with the press. with the exception maybe with sports journalists, but they usually don't interest themselves in the private lives of people as tabloid journalists. He was a bit naive with them from the beginning and definitely out of his league.
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I don't think he has talked to Albert. in the interview he says he is willing to meet Albert wherever and whenever he choses. That doesn't sound to me like they ever had contact. To me it sounds like he is asking him for a duell on the field of honour. And that is what he is trying to do IMO with this whole interview. He is trying to protect his daughters (and family's) honour. He is pretty clumsy about is, but then again he doesn't have years of training to deal with the press. with the exception maybe with sports journalists, but they usually don't interest themselves in the private lives of people as tabloid journalists. He was a bit naive with them from the beginning and definitely out of his league.
Yes. imo, it was Charlene's very public behavior in Turino and pic of her in other places with Albert and then her interviews and comments that put CW and anyone who knows her that is willing to talk (her family, mainly) right square in the papprazi bullseye. I can imagine her father would not want to see Charlene hurt by the situation, although I doubt that anything like that would happen.

But I would guess just the public pressure would be enough to cow anyone.

He seems to be trying to handle the massive crush of attention the only way he knows how (I'm sure he's gotten tired of it by now too -- or maybe not). Albert would not be like anyone else she's ever been palling around with, that's for sure...
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Having a nice girl as an escort it's the matter of prestige in midst of rich people.
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:35 AM
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Not many people think Charlene is a nice girl in ANY sense of the word.

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Who said that tastes of PA and all other people must be equal? :p The main thing - Charlene suited PA' taste and it was enough for some time :)
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