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Old 07-12-2006, 10:57 AM
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Wow, is that true? I wonder how she feels about him making statements like that? That's gotta hurt.
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:07 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlene_Wittstock

..."On June 28, 2006 it was announced that she will marry Prince Albert later this year."...

Here's the quote from wikipedia and the link. Have not been able to locate it anyplace else yet.
Personally, I would approach wikipedia with a BIG grain of salt.

Quite literally, anyone [I mean anyone] who has access to the internet can put comments in there and it does not matter if what they put is accurate or not.

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I wonder if they are being sarcastic when they say her hectic schedule. What does she have going on except being the girlfriend of PA? Or, are they trying to allude to her preparation for marriage (converting to Catholicism, etc).
They are probably just chatting on. Or maybe her schedule has turned 'hectic' because of the fancy party invitations she has. I imagine some people would want to hang out with her because she's been on the balcony w/Caro and such. You know, 'power of association'.

I always had a little hunch that CW is willingly a part of the general PR game that Albert's people are playing, given those recent pictures that are out now. That's not to say he doesn't like her. But who knows? They both benefit, right?

He cleans his image, she gets to pal around w/royalty and boosts her image too.

I guess having no education and limited career potential is not a problem for her. CW is making the most of her interaction with PA afterall. :p
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:49 PM
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I think Charlene is a companion like it's officially stated. A companion is a person who escorts/accompany someone. She accompanied PA on several events and he invited her to spend time with him in Maldives on his birthday vacation. The title came from the palace because enquiring minds wanted to know the identity of this woman and why she was all cozy and snuggled with PA at the Olympics in Italy. The tabloids ran rampart with all types of rumors after seeing them together. So this is probably why the palace created the “Official Companion” title for CW.

PA introduced CW to PC and her family because she was his guest. I would think any good host would introduce a guest to the family if they are attending the same event. He was only acting proper by introducing CW to his official staff at the Yacht gala event because his staff were also attending the same affair.

PA and CW are both consenting adults and what was revealed to the public by nosy photographers was nothing more than two adults frolicking around. The media ran amok with the photos and posted “Monaco Princess and a Royal Wedding” stories. In addition, people started to speculate and spread rumors of CW being groomed for the next Princess of Monaco which had no merit. PA never stated CW was being prepared to be his wife. People speculated these rumors and Charlene gave interviews of how PA swept her off her feet and made her knees go weak when she was in his presence. I can understand her feeling this way. If you consider his lifestyle and compare it to hers, it is easy to imagine why she made these comments. Nevertheless, she will continue to be his “official companion” without the marriage attached. I truly believe he enjoys her company and she feels the same. So CW will probably escort PA to more events in the future.

IMO, PA has his work cut out for him being the new head of state in Monaco and at the present time, marriage is not on the top of his list. He stated, in due time he will settle down, get married and have more children with his princess bride…whomever she may be.

This is strictly my opinion. :)
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:04 AM
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Exactly my thoughts, Lillia! I think you are very close to the truth :) There is no need to complicate the simple escort situation and look for the black cat in the dark room, esp. if it is not there :p
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:16 AM
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Yeah, Alberts' comments have to hurt. I agree they are consenting adults but if they are not getting married that pretty much means they're doing what? It's just sort of cheap. Low class of both of them. You ever heard that phrase, get a room. Well, I think they should have kept it in the bedroom. Just unnecessary, especially when you consider some of the photos' and appearances were staged.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:59 AM
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As to me, I cannot imagine that someone might be hurted by Charlene appearance next to PA :) I agree - low class, but it is his business and only he can be hurted by that specific public image that he created himself in the Internet and MassMedia.
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Unfortunately,Charlene encouraged speculation from the Media .Her comments in Torino about it being the perfect place for lovers..... No marriage plans---yet..... And her recent declaration that they are "soulmates"...
Her quick hiring of a publicist and granting of magazine interviews gave rise to the impression that this was a very serious relationship. A typical girlfriend/companion wouldn't have posed for Paris Match photos and done interviews......
If she acted like a normal escort/companion perhaps marriage media speculation would not have been so high....

Also--I think her father's interviews (When he compares his Family to the Grimaldi's ---and also said that Charlene is accepting of Prince Albert's children) didn't help.....
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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Unfortunately,Charlene encouraged speculation from the Media .Her comments in Torino about it being the perfect place for lovers..... No marriage plans---yet..... And her recent declaration that they are "soulmates"...
Her quick hiring of a publicist and granting of magazine interviews gave rise to the impression that this was a very serious relationship. A typical girlfriend/companion wouldn't have posed for Paris Match photos and done interviews......
If she acted like a normal escort/companion perhaps marriage media speculation would not have been so high....

Also--I think her father's interviews (When he compares his Family to the Grimaldi's ---and also said that Charlene is accepting of Prince Albert's children) didn't help.....
Well, I guess she had her agenda and he had his own. Maybe she tried to force his hand, maybe there was a deal from the beginning. Who knows? But I think Alberts words and actions in recent months have been clear. He stated in several interviews that he had every intention to marry, but had not found the right person to do so. The tabloids jumped to conclusions mainly due to Charlenes actions, not due to Alberts (ok, he shouldn't have taken her to the Grand Prix, if he didn't want the speculation to continue, but as we know now a few days later he recognized Jazmin and Charlene was a good deflector). Btw in yesterdays TMC documentary for his first year of reign, his children were both mentioned, Charlene was not. The documentary was in cooperation with the press office. We are bound to see it again over the years, so apparently Charlene was not meant to be in the picture for longterm, otherwise I a sure she would have been somehow included, if she was seen as someone to promote his image.
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:02 AM
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Well, I guess she had her agenda and he had his own. Maybe she tried to force his hand, maybe there was a deal from the beginning. Who knows? But I think Alberts words and actions in recent months have been clear. He stated in several interviews that he had every intention to marry, but had not found the right person to do so. The tabloids jumped to conclusions mainly due to Charlenes actions, not due to Alberts (ok, he shouldn't have taken her to the Grand Prix, if he didn't want the speculation to continue, but as we know now a few days later he recognized Jazmin and Charlene was a good deflector). Btw in yesterdays TMC documentary for his first year of reign, his children were both mentioned, Charlene was not. The documentary was in cooperation with the press office. We are bound to see it again over the years, so apparently Charlene was not meant to be in the picture for longterm, otherwise I a sure she would have been somehow included, if she was seen as someone to promote his image.
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Well, Iguess she had her agenda and he had his own. Maybe she tried to force his hand, maybe there was a deal from the beginning. Who knows? But I think Alberts words and actions in recent months have been clear. He stated in several interviews that he had every intention to marry, but had not found the right person to do so. The tabloids jumped to conclusions mainly due to Charlenes actions, not due to Alberts (ok, he shouldn't have taken her to the Grand Prix, if he didn't want the speculation to continue, but as we know now a few days later he recognized Jazmin and Charlene was a good deflector). Btw in yesterdays TMC documentary for his first year of reign, his children were both mentioned, Charlene was not. The documentary was in cooperation with the press office. We are bound to see it again over the years, so apparently Charlene was not meant to be in the picture for longterm, otherwise I a sure she would have been somehow included, if she was seen as someone to promote his image.
The highlighted portions of paca's post illustrate that perhaps la famille Wittstock was speaking a little too quickly and freely about the relationship. I wouldn't doubt that Charlene shows up at some future event or two as an escort (get your minds out of the gutter! ) and pal but that's it. She read more into the relationship than he did and I'm sure her family's positioning themselves as the South Afrcian version of the Kellys didn't help. Albert probably felt pressured by the Wittstocks' feeding the media and pulled back and resorted to his playboy ways.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:41 PM
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Yes, I agree with all the sentiments expressed. I do however doubt Albert felt too much pressure. I think he, like so many others, recognized the danger in having "chatty" in laws. A marriage situation that is not ideal for a head of state or a celebrity. Not to mention what I will call the Diana Factor. No Prince wants a Diana. Yes, she was beautiful, did a great job with her children, was wonderful for AIDS awareness etc. (I could really go on and on) But she did NOTHING to improve Charles's standing in the world. Grace and Rainer may have had their problems but she did a much better job of handing them. Of course Rainer probably wasn't openly dating someone like Charles was Camilla, but still. Albert has to been keenly aware of the impact a woman can have especially after NC and TR. He should be super careful about turning over a good chunk of Power to just any woman. And he needs a smart, educated one, hands down.
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Old 07-13-2006, 06:21 PM
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consenting adults but if they are not getting married that pretty much means they're doing what? It's just sort of cheap. Low class of both of them. You ever heard that phrase, get a room. Well, I think they should have kept it in the bedroom.
Wow! Kind of harsh. I don't know about any of you, but when I was dating, I dated men (seperatly of course) on what I call a long term basis and never married them. some I dated for a year or so, 2 others I dated for over 5 years. It just did not work out. We were good together, but not good enough to spend the rest of our lives together. We had thought of marriage, but realized it was not for us.
Maybe this is what Pr. Albert is doing?!!! I don't see why he can not date and/or have a serious relationship with someone on a long term basis w/o being judged for it. There is nothing "cheap" or "low class" about any of this.
Now if they had been all over each other, making out in public to have it captured by the press, than, yes, I would say that they were being cheap and low class.
But I think he has handled himself well. And if she has not been seen with him in a while, than he played his cards right. He probably saw her in a different light so to speak with the interviews and what not. And her family speaking to the press. He probably felt the pressure from her and her family, whether it was intentional or not, and he backed off. No harm, no foul.
But that's not to say that he won't and shouldn't ask her to accompany him to another event in the future. Unless of course, he comes across another "lady" that he might be interested in dating.
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Wow! Kind of harsh. I don't know about any of you, but when I was dating, I dated men (seperatly of course) on what I call a long term basis and never married them. some I dated for a year or so, 2 others I dated for over 5 years. It just did not work out. We were good together, but not good enough to spend the rest of our lives together. We had thought of marriage, but realized it was not for us.
Maybe this is what Pr. Albert is doing?!!! I don't see why he can not date and/or have a serious relationship with someone on a long term basis w/o being judged for it. There is nothing "cheap" or "low class" about any of this.
Now if they had been all over each other, making out in public to have it captured by the press, than, yes, I would say that they were being cheap and low class.
But I think he has handled himself well. And if she has not been seen with him in a while, than he played his cards right. He probably saw her in a different light so to speak with the interviews and what not. And her family speaking to the press. He probably felt the pressure from her and her family, whether it was intentional or not, and he backed off. No harm, no foul.
But that's not to say that he won't and shouldn't ask her to accompany him to another event in the future. Unless of course, he comes across another "lady" that he might be interested in dating.
I agree totally Sesa. They are both adults & there is nothing cheap or low class about an adult relationship. Prince Rainier had his long tern affair with Gisele Pascal before Princess Grace. They were together for a long time & it didn't work. That happens. Also, I don't imagine he was at all happy with Charlene & family talking to the press. We are all keenly aware of how he likes to guard his private life. This kind of jabbering from them can not be sitting to well with him at all.
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I think Charlene is a companion like it's officially stated. A companion is a person who escorts/accompany someone. She accompanied PA on several events and he invited her to spend time with him in Maldives on his birthday vacation. The title came from the palace because enquiring minds wanted to know the identity of this woman and why she was all cozy and snuggled with PA at the Olympics in Italy. The tabloids ran rampart with all types of rumors after seeing them together. So this is probably why the palace created the “Official Companion” title for CW.

PA introduced CW to PC and her family because she was his guest. I would think any good host would introduce a guest to the family if they are attending the same event. He was only acting proper by introducing CW to his official staff at the Yacht gala event because his staff were also attending the same affair.

PA and CW are both consenting adults and what was revealed to the public by nosy photographers was nothing more than two adults frolicking around. The media ran amok with the photos and posted “Monaco Princess and a Royal Wedding” stories. In addition, people started to speculate and spread rumors of CW being groomed for the next Princess of Monaco which had no merit. PA never stated CW was being prepared to be his wife. People speculated these rumors and Charlene gave interviews of how PA swept her off her feet and made her knees go weak when she was in his presence. I can understand her feeling this way. If you consider his lifestyle and compare it to hers, it is easy to imagine why she made these comments. Nevertheless, she will continue to be his “official companion” without the marriage attached. I truly believe he enjoys her company and she feels the same. So CW will probably escort PA to more events in the future.

IMO, PA has his work cut out for him being the new head of state in Monaco and at the present time, marriage is not on the top of his list. He stated, in due time he will settle down, get married and have more children with his princess bride…whomever she may be.

This is strictly my opinion. :)
Agreed.

But was it the press that came up with that label for CW, or was it really the palace that gave her that 'tag'?
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Old 07-14-2006, 08:46 PM
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Well, I guess CW is learning how to behave in public. And all those ideas about publicists for her and joint lawsuits with Albert against some magazine.

Sounds like somebody is trying to control and re-cast PA's image, and CW is knowingly/willing part of it as his escort/'lady-friend'

OK, good for her.

Embarrasing, sure probably, but if she goes along with the game and benefits at the same time, good for her. I mean, what else would she likely be doing? So she chooses to be intimate with Albert -- apparently it's opening up a few opportunities for her to meet people in the right places (at the minimum).

She could be doing alot worse for herself in terms of choosing someone to have a casual relation, even if this is just for the short-term, if you ask me.:)
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Agreed.

But was it the press that came up with that label for CW, or was it really the palace that gave her that 'tag'?
I have not been able to find a confirmed answer to that question myself. I thougt Paca had said that she thougt someone in the palace had maybe offhandedly refered to her as an official companion. Not necessarily the. There is a difference.

I for one think she and Albert did more than part ways. (total speculation on my part) but, I suspect they may have actually had some sort of falling out. Face it, they do not look comfortable at that formal event at the Grand Prix at all. Now, they may have fallen out over events, or, it could be something personal. We will likely never know. But, the reason I think this is because he is usually pretty quite, he normally does not deny women. (Though he has denied involvement with women he is not really involved with, like....the future Queen of Spain's sister. Probably a good political move on his part. Also some other women whom he is just photograped with) But he has stated in several interviews, in reference to CW, that he is not going to marry her. Probably not a smart way to refer to your current companion publically, if your still seeing them. I think he is intentionally distancing himself.
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Leahteresa...Has stated in several interviews re CW that he was not going to marry her. May I please ask where you saw the specific words or were they something vague like...I haven't found anyone type thing??

Re the pics of the two out in the public, someone suggested that since the sue case is on that everyone, including present forum would rather not get into the frey of being sued. I remember they were quickly removed from the thread here after there was overwhelming criticism.
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I have not been able to find a confirmed answer to that question myself. I thougt Paca had said that she thougt someone in the palace had maybe offhandedly refered to her as an official companion. Not necessarily the. There is a difference.
Makes sense to me. So that just would again just mean she is for the moment and PA will probably have other escorts to other events. Not only her.:) :) Yes, there is a big difference too.:p

Maybe her papa jumped too soon on his comments about CW wanting to be the only one that PA would be is seeing. He should keep quiet and be happy his daughter may be one of several, but she is meeting the right people and is getting invitations to run in a social circle that she may never have gotten into without PA and those pictures, right?
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Please remember that this is a current-events thread. If there isn't any current news about Charlene, I suggest that people wait until some actual news turns up. There is no need to repeat the same again and again.

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There is a small (well, tiny) article in our local newspaper (The Benoni City Times, 21 July 2006) about Charlene. It says, in brief, that her coach Graham Hill says she is taking a month's break from swimming and hasn't given up her aspirations to swim in the Olympics.

The rest of the article is the usual speculation about when she will marry Prince Albert ?? And that she is still the same nice person despite her growing fame.

Nothing too exciting.
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