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Old 06-26-2006, 08:57 PM
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Well, if Charlene W is on the way out (and no one knows this but PA and CW, I would not know, that's for sure!), then she is after all, a grown-up. Her father did say in his interview that she was not clinging to PA. I would hope she has been at least thinking on herself enough to try to make the most of the introductions Albert gave her in terms of fashioning some kind of future for herself after the Olympics (if she participates). Maybe she can try to be a sports anchorperson on TV or something? Or maybe an expert speaker for Olympic activities or something. Better than just partying along with PA and then being a former, former...:)


Who knows , I sure don't :p :)
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:34 PM
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Well, if Charlene W is on the way out (and no one knows this but PA and CW, I would not know, that's for sure!), then she is after all, a grown-up. Her father did say in his interview that she was not clinging to PA.
Well, we all thought she was on the way out in April when the safari never materialized and when we saw Albert with Annabelle Bond...then she turned up in Monaco for apparently 2 weeks. He seems to take her out from time to time when it suits him. It's not quite what I would brand how one would treat a "long time girlfriend" as the press keeps saying she is. And four months is not what I would call a "long term" relationship. But then again, that depends on your point of view.

Part of me believes that Charlene is no longer living in South Africa but rather in Albert's apartment in Paris; however, I can't figure out how the press hasn't picked up on this. My other thought is that her father's "clinging" quote is actually Charlene (or her PR person) speaking to the press about the relationship through her father. He looks like an independent agent/family spokesperson but in reality he is Charlene's mouthpiece. I also think her family is the source of the engagement rumor leak to the press especially about the ring shopping b/c when Charlene showed up at the Grand Prix, the Palace did deny that there were marriage plans (I did read that, didn't I? Can someone confirm this??).
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:03 PM
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Makes sense to me. I agree with the part about her father being her 'mouthpiece', although he cannot certainly climb into her head and presume to speak for her about PA to anybody (presumptuous,imo).

And yes, I think it's just one of those 'things' that they have going at the moment.

They're just partying around; they're adults and they can do that.:p

I would be surprised if anything more came of that and personally, I would not want to be known in public as being someone's 'mistress' no matter who it was

I'm sure the press or whoever it was came up with that term could have come up with something nicer than 'companion'

(or maybe not:p )
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:28 AM
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I do not believe CW is residing in Paris because she is such a busy body and there would have been some sort of tabloid news or pictures of her prancing about. So I think she is back in SA somewhere sorting out her future goals.

I read the article regarding her father’s comment where he suggested she should give PA some space and not be too clingy. But that was in one of those SA tabloid articles and you can not always be sure if he even made the comment.

Things seem to be calm at the moment but there are still a few events where she might be PA’s escort. There is the Red Cross Ball and the Jazz Festival and we might see her at these events. However; IMO, I do not feel there is a wedding in the near future according to PA’s latest interview. Even though he was very vague, he never stated he was marrying or getting engaged to her. He just replied that he still envision marriage and having a family one day. He never said it would be with CW.
We will just have to wait and see if anything comes out of this relationship. :)
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:40 AM
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Could it just be his way of not getting involved in that type of conversation? He is so secretive in regards to his personal life that he just might surprise all of us with an announcement. What I do believe is that Charlene was at Cartier's buying the earrings she wore to the Auto Club gala. I saw a necklace in a magazine that looked just like the earrings. She must be hiding somewhere for the paparrazzi not to have found her recently. She is probably a hot comodity to the press. Maybe, while she is being groomed to be a Grimaldi princess, she is being kept away from the public eye and will do a comeback with a bang all groomed and ready for her new role in life.
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:09 AM
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It is a possibility, but we just do not know. I do agree PA is very private, but in the interview he said something on the lines of if he was contemplating marriage people would know. (Not his exact words) So IMO if he was getting prepared for something as spectacular as a wedding or engagement announcement he would have said so. As far as the jewelry is concerned, purchased from Cartier’s’, please share the article.

I have nothing against CW, if she is PA’s choice; I wish them life long happiness. :)
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:23 AM
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Personally, I don't think she is in Paris, SA, or MC. If the palace wanted to groom her and keep her out of sight, wouldnt Roc Agel be a perfect place for her? Still close to PA to see him and very private so she isn't flaunted. Just my random thoughts.
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:26 AM
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But there must be staff around why would she be left there on her own? :( it's would be easy for a maid to let it slip to a member of the press if Charlene is at Roc Agel and I doubt she's cooking or cleaning, doing her own wash!?
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:55 AM
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But there must be staff around why would she be left there on her own? :( it's would be easy for a maid to let it slip to a member of the press if Charlene is at Roc Agel and I doubt she's cooking or cleaning, doing her own wash!?
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There would definitely be staff up there (also someone to teacher French, etiquette, protocol). I was thinking that the members of the princely family have always had a gret deal of privacy there so the staff there probably shows a great deal of discretion to protect that. Do you think I am giving them too much credit? Oh well, IF IF IF IF. Again, all we can do is speculate.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:51 PM
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According to a tabloid programme on TV, Albert is at this moment holding an important press conference. They speculated that it was to announce his engagement to CW.
And I'm here, trying desperately to find out what it's all about. The proverbial the suspense is killing me. No kidding.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:57 PM
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Now I'm intrigued. I would have thought PA would be in Germany for the France/Spain World Cup match later today. Please please please keep us updated Ghislaine because now the suspense is killing me.
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:04 PM
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Just googled news on PA. Apprarently he is launching a foundation for protection of the environment. I am sure that will appear in the thread for his current events. It is good news but not near as exciting/interesting. Oh well.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:30 PM
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Gee, that took at least 15 years of my life...
After having watched a news broadcast and several teletext services (all of them blatently and extremely devoid of any Monegasque news items) I think the "important press conference" might indeed have been the new environmental foundation one. Two in one day might be a bit too much. Which goes to show that the tabloid programme isn't exactly live either.
My sincere apologies for posting this false information.
Several royal forums have chosen this exact time to go down, news about Monaco has a nasty habit of not making it to the media here (one of the main reasons I'm hanging out here) and the internet didn't have have big headlines about shocking things being said in press conferences either. I was panicking through lack of information, sorry.

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Old 06-27-2006, 04:39 PM
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Well, the origional engagement rumor said they were planning to marry in October, not going to happen, too close. THis alone sort of indictes it was made up.

I would be VERY suprised if CW turned up at the Red Cross ball. The pictures of them at the last "Gala" event were very telling. Yes, there were a couple where they smiled but overall she and he both looked very uncomfortable. I also remember reading someone's first hand account of the event, on another site, and he said there was LOTS of talking going on behind her back. I'm tellin ya, those pics of her with her mouth on Alberts chest in the Maldives are really really bad. Not to mention the trip was Preceeded by her comments in Torino that they were not getting married. (I believe she was asked and said they were not, that is what I remember reading). Then along comes the "official companion" label....not so good in the PR department. IMO
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Well, the origional engagement rumor said they were planning to marry in October, not going to happen, too close. THis alone sort of indictes it was made up.

I would be VERY suprised if CW turned up at the Red Cross ball. The pictures of them at the last "Gala" event were very telling. Yes, there were a couple where they smiled but overall she and he both looked very uncomfortable. I also remember reading someone's first hand account of the event, on another site, and he said there was LOTS of talking going on behind her back. I'm tellin ya, those pics of her with her mouth on Alberts chest in the Maldives are really really bad. Not to mention the trip was Preceeded by her comments in Torino that they were not getting married. (I believe she was asked and said they were not, that is what I remember reading). Then along comes the "official companion" label....not so good in the PR department. IMO
There are lots of rumors around that didn't come true but now that they are "out of the closet" as a couple so to speak, I wouldn't be surprised if she does go to the Red Cross Ball with him and then goes on to Newport. BTW, are we planning an online party for the Red Cross Ball? If so, what is the dress code?

I can believe that there was a lot of gossip going on after the Grand Prix dinner gala but not there. No one would take that risk. Remember, Albert may be on the liberal side but he still is the absolute monarch. She didn't make a positive first couple of outings, that's for sure so I'm sure that the gala (and all those people saw all those photos from the Maldives and read her comments from Torino ) couldn't have been all that comfortable a situation.

Having her stashed away at Roc Agel is another pretty interesting theory but that would be more like having her in prison as she wouldn't be able to get around freely and it's rather isolated. Maybe she is back in South Africa... Doesn't Albert (and most of Europe) take a couple of weeks vacation in mid to late July?
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:04 PM
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Just for the record, it wasn't entirely a rumour. A press conference was announced (by the palais presumably) and apparently they didn't announce what said press conference was about. So everybody, or at least some people, jumped to the wrong conclusions and thought Albert was going to announce his engagement. Smart pr move by the way, at least he got a lot of attention

From the Le Point interview:
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Est-ce que cela a perturbé votre vie amoureuse ? Est-ce une des raisons à cause desquelles vous n'auriez pas encore trouvé l'âme soeur ?
Non, cela tient à moi, sinon ce serait tragique. Mais il est vrai que cela a été difficile, toutes ces années, d'avoir une relation suivie avec quelqu'un, on ne veut pas exposer cette personne, lui faire vivre cette pression.
They were talking about privacy and being followed by the press.
Q: Has that disturbed your love life? Is it one of the reasons why you haven't found the love of your life yet?
Albert: No, that's my fault, otherwise it would be tragic. But it is true that it has been difficult, all those years, to have a relationship with someone, one doesn't want to expose this person [to all this, G.], to make her experience that pressure.

So what exactly is his deal with CW? The opposite of what he's saying here, IMO. I mean, look at all the attention (and criticism) she's getting on this board alone.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:43 PM
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I sort of think if he didn't want to expose "someone" namely Charlene, to "all the pressure" he would not have taken her out in public the way he has. But then agian, he can hardly avoid it.

While I conceed that it is important not to judge people on sound bites, Charlene is who she is. She gave an interview, stepped up to the plate it seems in an attempt to take some control over the things being said about her and she did not such a good job. Everyone remembers the comments on education (or lack of) and the narrow olympic ambition. More than what she said is what she did not say. Other than teaching swimming to kids on a volunteer basis (there are reports this was her work for pay as well??) she mentioned not one word about any cause at all. She's from the poorest, most HIV ridden continent on the planet. (I could go on and on) She used this opportunity to talk about herself. Who cares? I did not read it in it's entirety because it only took a few lines to figure out she's SHALLOW. Not much there. Not much to talk about. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to swim laps. Sorry, not impressed.

She put herself out there and IMO, left everyone generally unimpresed because she's not so impressive. He has done much better and can do much better.
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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I just saw on wikipedia.org that Prince Albert announced his engagement to Charlene Wittstock today and that wedding should happen later this year. I couldn't find this news on any news outlets but has anyone else heard about this?
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:24 PM
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They were talking about privacy and being followed by the press.
Q: Has that disturbed your love life? Is it one of the reasons why you haven't found the love of your life yet?
Albert: No, that's my fault, otherwise it would be tragic. But it is true that it has been difficult, all those years, to have a relationship with someone, one doesn't want to expose this person [to all this, G.], to make her experience that pressure.

So what exactly is his deal with CW? The opposite of what he's saying here, IMO. I mean, look at all the attention (and criticism) she's getting on this board alone.
Well, she was the one laying all over PA in Turin (the pictures are out there), nobody was making her do that. She did it all on her own. It was her own choice to behave like that, and that's why the talk and the criticism, imo.

She could have conducted herself differently, but she did not. She did it to herself, imo. People were going to talk anyway, but she gave sooo much more to go on about...

She was the one also who went telling the press that PA was her 'soul mate' -- PA didn't make her do that. She was the one who decided to give the magazine interviews. It was her family started talking to the medias about her and Albert. None of them were forced to do it, each one of them could have said 'no thank you' or 'no comment', or they could have left it at something bland, but they did not.

She put herself out there in terms of her behavior, and that's not Albert's fault. Yes, he introduced her around, he took her to a nice party and invited her a few places. But CW (and her family) has been the one doing all the talking.

PA has not really made too much comment on CW except to say that there would not be any engagement (even though the pics tell a great deal about his activities with her).

She wanted the attention and she got it....
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Old 06-28-2006, 06:09 PM
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I just saw on wikipedia.org that Prince Albert announced his engagement to Charlene Wittstock today and that wedding should happen later this year. I couldn't find this news on any news outlets but has anyone else heard about this?
There is nothing on the palace site or on the government site. I haven't seen anything elsewhere either. Only about his new foundation for the environment.
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