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Old 06-23-2007, 01:47 PM
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{deleted for consistency - Elspeth} I have the right to trust or distrut whoever I wish. I think Máxima is a Dutch Princess, so she should be more concerned with Dutch people, and not with people who live so far away from The Netherlands. There are better qualified people who can do that.
Princess Mary is making a wonderful job against bullying in Danish schools and Máxima should be like this.
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Yes, Princess Máxima is a Princess of the Netherlands and the spouse to it's future King. But generally seen children born in wealthy, peaceful and safe Netherlands are born in better circumstances than the overhwelming majority of children born elsewhere in the world. With other words: there are more urgent problems with children in absolute need than the average Dutch child will ever experience.

Besides that the Princess does a lot of Dutch topics, the most in the eye is her membership of the 'Commission Máxima' (The Comission on the Participation of Women from Ethnic Minorities). Following her financial background, it is a logic choice for her to focus on financial and economical topics.

Like it is logic that Princess Mabel, following her long experience in the fight for democratization, human rights and Aids continues these activities in her new royal role. And the same can be said for communication-advisor Laurentien who focuses on functional illiteracy and the promotion of reading, communicating and education.


It is nice that Mary of Denmark found a topic (bullying) in between her visits to the catwalk.
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:52 PM
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Princess Mary is making a wonderful job against bullying in Danish schools and Máxima should be like this.
She is.HRH is a strong advocate for the minorities/immigrants here as well as for the youth task force on youth un-employment and all underlaying problems,but there will be more posts on that next monday (see the dutch Royal Calendar).She has more up her sleeve,micro-credit is but one of her interests,as you can read as all is posted on this
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Please understand that I am not intolerant toward other opinions at all.Far from it.But I just wish all to have the facts right, ignorance is something you can try to turn into knowledge and understanding if you listen and read.

HRH is a strong advocate in many fields related directly to The Netherlands,The Netherlands Antilles and Aruba,fi,the minorities/immigrants and youth unemployement and all underlaying problems to name a few,and she has more up here sleeve,micro-credit being another one,abroad as well as in The Netherlands,as you can read on this Forum as all is dicussed and posted.

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Old 06-23-2007, 01:56 PM
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how silly is to blame on a little girl of less than 10 years old what happened with her father's involvement in argentina. i suppose as an argentinian that you are, you should know that maxima's father, mr. jorge zorreguieta, was only involved 2 years with the government, when a normal post at the government lasts for 4. it's obvious mr. zorreguieta didn't want to get involved in what was happening and left the ministry, being the gentleman he is. and even if jorge zorreguieta was a monster and commited lots of crimes against humanities (which he didn't, as the dutch court determined when all his actions were investigated before maxima's wedding), maxima is no one to blame for.
I didn't blame her. She has nothing to do with his father actions, but I find quite hypocrital how she talks about injustices and violence when she invited to her wedding a catholic priest who is known to have simpathies for the old regime in Argentina. {political content deleted - Elspeth}

In my opinion, and this is how I see Royalty, a dutch princess should work for The Netherlands, a spanish princess should work for Spain, a danish princess should work for Denmark, and so on... When a princess is more concerned with the World than with her own country (and I say because I don't know any other princess so involved in international issues like Maxima) she is negligating her own people.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:00 PM
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In my opinion, and this is how I see Royalty, a dutch princess should work for The Netherlands, a spanish princess should work for Spain, a danish princess should work for Denmark, and so on... When a princess is more concerned with the World than with her own country (and I say because I don't know any other princess so involved in international issues like Maxima) she is negligating her own people.
Well, Maxima is in a very priviliged position, if she can do something to help the world, and she does it, that's fantastic! Africa needs a lot more help than Denmark or the Netherlands or Spain.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:01 PM
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I didn't blame her. She has nothing to do with his father actions, but I find quite hypocrital how she talks about injustices and violence when she invited to her wedding a catholic priest who is known to have simpathies for the old regime in Argentina. {deleted for consistency - Elspeth}

In my opinion, and this is how I see Royalty, a dutch princess should work for The Netherlands, a spanish princess should work for Spain, a danish princess should work for Denmark, and so on... When a princess is more concerned with the World than with her own country (and I say because I don't know any other princess so involved in international issues like Maxima) she is negligating her own people.
Princess Máxima does a LOT of public appearances in the Netherlands, she attends all incoming state visits, does attend major outgoing state visits, is there at Queen's Day, joins the Queen in the Golden State Carriage on her way to the State Opening of Parliament, attends Remembrance Day and is present on every highday in the Netherlands or the royal houses at home and abroad.

I have never ever heard any Dutchman making a complaint about the Princess' supposed lack of interest in Dutch topics.'

By the way: keep in the eye what she actually is. She is the spouse to The Prince of Orange. No more, no less. She is no minister, no governor, no major, no general, no police woman, no teacher. She is just a wife and a mother. Because the Netherlands government finds it 'undesirable' that the spouse of the King is depending on others, and that she must be able 'to maintain the dignity and the prestige of the House' she is given her own allowance. But there is no any job description, no any 'requirements', nothing. She is the spouse to the future King and she has to fill in her own life. If she prefers to stay in the palace and keeps a low profile, that would have been her own choice as well.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:03 AM
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Besides that the Princess does a lot of Dutch topics, the most in the eye is her membership of the 'Commission Máxima' (The Comission on the Participation of Women from Ethnic Minorities). Following her financial background, it is a logic choice for her to focus on financial and economical topics.

Like it is logic that Princess Mabel, following her long experience in the fight for democratization, human rights and Aids continues these activities in her new royal role. And the same can be said for communication-advisor Laurentien who focuses on functional illiteracy and the promotion of reading, communicating and education.
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It is nice that Mary of Denmark found a topic (bullying) in between her visits to the catwalk.
henri m., your comments always make me smile. i agree with everything you said.

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In my opinion, and this is how I see Royalty, a dutch princess should work for The Netherlands, a spanish princess should work for Spain, a danish princess should work for Denmark, and so on... When a princess is more concerned with the World than with her own country (and I say because I don't know any other princess so involved in international issues like Maxima) she is negligating her own people.
i don't think either that maxima is neglecting her people at all. examples are given in henri m.'s message.

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Princess Máxima does a LOT of public appearances in the Netherlands, she attends all incoming state visits, does attend major outgoing state visits, is there at Queen's Day, joins the Queen in the Golden State Carriage on her way to the State Opening of Parliament, attends Remembrance Day and is present on every highday in the Netherlands or the royal houses at home and abroad.

I have never ever heard any Dutchman making a complaint about the Princess' supposed lack of interest in Dutch topics.'
an anecdote to finish my message. the other day i met a dutch man in my country and he was apparently here for a short summer break. he asked for some directions and told me he was dutch so i couldn't refrain asking if he knew princess maxima. we engaged in conversation and said "everyone loves her!" following a detailed explanation of the views of dutch people about their royal family, ranging from maxima, to prince claus, to prince bernhard and queen juliana... i was pleasantly surprised with his comments about how much dutch people like maxima... it's therefore why i doubt she "neglects her own people", as aquarella said. who better to judge than the dutch people?
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:48 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, please remember that this is NOT a political forum, and we DO NOT allow political discussions of any kind. Period.

Furthermore, everyone, and I do mean everyone, on this forum is entitled to their own opinion, and should not be griped at for expressing their opinion.

Having said that, everyone on this forum should also be able to express their opinion in a manner that is not offensive to others. There are ways to make your point known without deteriorating into personal attacks.
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I've edited out some political comments and some personal attacks by some posters on others. Please remember what Empress said about that:

Having said that, everyone on this forum should also be able to express their opinion in a manner that is not offensive to others. There are ways to make your point known without deteriorating into personal attacks.

If you don't want to see your posts disappear in the future, you'll want to confine your criticisms to the ideas expressed and don't attack the person expressing them.

I've reopened the thread; please stay away from political discussions, and also let's drop these snide comments about Princess Mary, which are off-topic here.

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Old 06-25-2007, 11:50 AM
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I was reading the Dutch calender, and saw that Maxima will leave tomorrow the 26th for Kenya. This of course will be after the photoshoot I suppose?
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her interest in poor people who live far away from The Netherlands is in a way a typical Dutch activity, a Dutch tradition since the past couple of decades. Holland donates together with the scandinavian countries the highest amount of foreign aid to the poorest far away.


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{deleted for consistency - Elspeth}I have the right to trust or distrut whoever I wish. I think Máxima is a Dutch Princess, so she should be more concerned with Dutch people, and not with people who live so far away from The Netherlands. There are better qualified people who can do that.
Princess Mary is making a wonderful job against bullying in Danish schools and Máxima should be like this.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:36 PM
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25-06-2007 The Hague Princess Maxima arriving at the completion of Taskforce Youth Unemployment at the Ridderzaal in The Hague.

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I don't like her outfit... it looks like a retro-80s outfit...
Well, and it makes her look very ..huge....
But she looks glowing and happy.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:37 PM
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Princess Máxima today at the conclusion of the Taskforce Youth un-employement,established in 2003 aiming at creating 40.000 jobs for youngsters,in which it succeeded.
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Courtesy PPE/Nieboer.
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The sun is shining in The Hague? I envy her (and the inhabitants of TH), it has been rain, rain and more rain over here.
Maxima looks rather summer-like in that outfit, appropriate as summer started a few days ago.
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I love Maxima's outfit, very colourful Is it just my opinion or has she lost weight less fast than with the other 2 pregnancies? It seems it is taking longer this time, not that that matters, but I just noticed
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Oh wow!! isnt that a beautiful outfit?! but a small prob, i findthe top being abit too long for the pants look but she comes back with a great look. Very ideal outfit for the start of summer. I like her bracelets too... I like the way she carries her-self sometimes, very tall

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Is it just my opinion or has she lost weight less fast than with the other 2 pregnancies?
yes, i have noticed that as well.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:04 PM
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Indeed she looks wonderful. More pictures from ANP
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Indeed she looks wonderful. More pictures from ANP

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This isn't the real Maxima, but a look-a-like.
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This isn't the real Maxima, but a look-a-like.
she certainly got the mouth right
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Thak´s for pictures I love outfit´s colours.
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This isn't the real Maxima, but a look-a-like.
OMG!! she really does look like Maxima, the profile, mouth & nose
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