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Old 02-14-2006, 04:04 PM
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I have a question about Maxima and I just want to state first that I am not trying to stir anything.

Maxima looks very fair to me and she also have blonde hair. She looks very Northern European in comparions to the Argentienan people which I have met. They tend to have darker brown hair and a darker complexion (more olive tone).

So I was wondering if Maxima have European bloodline in her?
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:19 PM
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I have a question about Maxima and I just want to state first that I am not trying to stir anything.

Maxima looks very fair to me and she also have blonde hair. She looks very Northern European in comparions to the Argentienan people which I have met. They tend to have darker brown hair and a darker complexion (more olive tone).

So I was wondering if Maxima have European bloodline in her?
I really would like to know now how YOU are looking if you says she looks fair to you
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:24 PM
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I really would like to know now how YOU are looking if you says she looks fair to you
No, I meant her complexion is quite fair compared to the Argentinens I have met. Nothing about my complexion.

Look, I am not trying to stir anything here. Just wants to know if she has any Northern European ancestors/bloodline.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:43 PM
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its so nice to see the first pic, she waves to meeeee :d I also got a pic of that moment!!! haha I love her :P :P
Congratulations.
What a beautiful young woman she looks.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:54 PM
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No, I meant her complexion is quite fair compared to the Argentinens I have met. Nothing about my complexion.

Look, I am not trying to stir anything here. Just wants to know if she has any Northern European ancestors/bloodline.


Basque, Spanish, and Italian ancestry

Royal ancestors: http://worldroots.com/brigitte/argen...cerrutianc.htm
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Old 02-14-2006, 05:04 PM
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Thank you for the information The Watcher. :)

That's all I was looking for.
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:50 PM
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I really would like to know now how YOU are looking if you says she looks fair to you
Do you think she looks dark compared to Europeans?
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Old 02-14-2006, 07:00 PM
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Do you think she looks dark compared to Europeans?
In Latin America there have been a lot of "race mixing" we all have european, black and native blood so our fenotype isn't unique, there are a lot of people with dark hair and skin but take me for example, I don't have any european ancestors until my great-grandparents and yet I'm blonde and very white, I have "black" friends, "native" friends but we all know we are product of a mix.

The thing in Europe is that older generation are mostly caucasian while inmigration will have the same effect it had in America but not as extreme as it was here.

Máxima is quite white but she's like everyone else here product of a mix, she doesn't look darker than europeans but her native blood is still there and she should feel proud as I do of her origins.

I've given my two cents here, any questions?
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No, I meant her complexion is quite fair compared to the Argentinens I have met. Nothing about my complexion.

Look, I am not trying to stir anything here. Just wants to know if she has any Northern European ancestors/bloodline.
Ow sorry I didn't understand you!!! Sorry :)
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Old 02-14-2006, 07:07 PM
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In Latin America there have been a lot of "race mixing" we all have european, black and native blood so our fenotype isn't unique, there are a lot of people with dark hair and skin but take me for example, I don't have any european ancestors until my great-grandparents and yet I'm blonde and very white, I have "black" friends, "native" friends but we all know we are product of a mix.

The thing in Europe is that older generation are mostly caucasian while inmigration will have the same effect it had in America but not as extreme as it was here.

Máxima is quite white but she's like everyone else here product of a mix, she doesn't look darker than europeans but her native blood is still there and she should feel proud as I do of her origins.

I've given my two cents here, any questions?
Thank you very much for explaining. :)

Now I have learnt a bit more about the people of Argentina and their history too.
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Old 02-14-2006, 07:10 PM
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Thank you very much for explaining. :)

Now I have learnt a bit more about the people of Argentina and their history too.
You are quite welcome, Latin America is like a very big country, we have a lot of things in common such as the language and other costums so I speak with some kind of "authority" about the story and development of other south american countries
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:35 PM
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In Latin America there have been a lot of "race mixing" we all have european, black and native blood so our fenotype isn't unique, there are a lot of people with dark hair and skin but take me for example, I don't have any european ancestors until my great-grandparents and yet I'm blonde and very white, I have "black" friends, "native" friends but we all know we are product of a mix.

The thing in Europe is that older generation are mostly caucasian while inmigration will have the same effect it had in America but not as extreme as it was here.

Máxima is quite white but she's like everyone else here product of a mix, she doesn't look darker than europeans but her native blood is still there and she should feel proud as I do of her origins.

I've given my two cents here, any questions?
Thanks! She looked "white" to me, but I didn't know if the other poster was trying to say she was dark. I am aware that Latin Americans are a mix of many different cultures, which I think is very cool.

Since you said your family didn't have fair people until your great grandparents yet you turned out fair, I wonder if anyone in Maxima's family is darker than she is?
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:56 PM
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In Latin America there have been a lot of "race mixing" we all have european, black and native blood so our fenotype isn't unique, there are a lot of people with dark hair and skin but take me for example, I don't have any european ancestors until my great-grandparents and yet I'm blonde and very white, I have "black" friends, "native" friends but we all know we are product of a mix.

The thing in Europe is that older generation are mostly caucasian while inmigration will have the same effect it had in America but not as extreme as it was here.

Máxima is quite white but she's like everyone else here product of a mix, she doesn't look darker than europeans but her native blood is still there and she should feel proud as I do of her origins.

I've given my two cents here, any questions?

You're right about the race mixing we have in Latin America. I was born in Buenos Aires, my parents emigrated from Japan to Argentina after the IIWW, so I have japanese blood but argentinian.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:08 PM
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The Spanish magazine "Hola" indicates in its front page that there are rumors of abdication for WA and Maxima??? Has anyone heard that?

http://www.hola.com/
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:55 PM
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The Spanish magazine "Hola" indicates in its front page that there are rumors of abdication for WA and Maxima??? Has anyone heard that?

http://www.hola.com/
Let me correct myself, would that be for the Queen, WA's mother? Perhaps she is thinking of stepping down?
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:05 PM
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The Spanish magazine "Hola" indicates in its front page that there are rumors of abdication for WA and Maxima??? Has anyone heard that?

http://www.hola.com/
Maybe Beatrix would abdicate as Juliana and Wilhemina did but not now, she's not that old and still can rule for some years; besides, I think she'll let W-A and Maxima time to raise their children as she did.
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Well, these rumours wil be going around for the next yeas I guess, untill the Queen actually abdicates. But the Royal Palace on Dam square is being restored (it will be used to sign the abdication), the castle Drakensteyn is being restored (probably the queen will live there after an eventual abdication), it is not sure if the PoO will prolongue his membership of the IOC for another 8 years (he promised the gouverment to give up the membership when he becmes king)... Add to that that Wilhelmina was 68 and Juliana 72 when they abdicated and Beatrix is now 68.
However I do not think Beatrix will abdicate before 2010, and if she wants she can stay on the throne for the rest of her life (which I do not expect btw).
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it is not sure if the PoO will prolongue his membership of the IOC for another 8 years (he promised the gouverment to give up the membership when he becmes king)...
Is there a reason why Willem promised to give up his IOC membership when he becomes king? Would being king somehow affect his membership within the IOC?

At the Benelux Royals MB I think I also read that there was some controversy with Willem's membership in the IOC due to comments he had made. I wondered what that was about.
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what is the ioc???
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what is the ioc???
IOC is the International Olympic Committee.
Willem-Alexander is one of the member, here is his site.
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