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Old 11-02-2003, 07:21 PM
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Is there any truth to the story that Prince Johan Friso and Mabel Wisse Smit have broken up, and that Mabel is expecting ?
oh really!

but Queen needs knew about it!

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Old 11-02-2003, 08:02 PM
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any truth to the story that Prince Johan Friso and Mabel Wisse Smit have broken up, and that Mabel is expecting ?
oh really!

but Queen needs knew about it!
I can see them breaking up ... but, if she's expecting too, then I have a hard time with the story.
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Old 11-03-2003, 03:32 PM
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I'm very sure that they will break up. But that she's expecting is just speculation I think.
Or it have to be true, and she had a abortion or something..

Our queen doensn't like expecting a baby before there is married.
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:19 AM
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So it is the same one. I read that a Dutch royal had announced his engagement after the announcement of the pregnancy of a future heir to the throne. And in the same article it said that this Mabel was well-loved by the Royal family because of her charity work. Well, I find this all even more ridiculous. The woman is respected in her field no less. Leave her past in the past!
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:21 AM
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What I don't get is that he's a mobster but the royals in the past have invaded countries. Is there a slight double standard here? And besides, is there any proof that she was involved?
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:24 AM
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Hi Dennism!
No, Friso didn't knock Mabel up! What happened was in the middle of June (the 18th or 19th, I think), Willem-Alexander and Máxima announced that they're pregnant, and at the end of June, Friso and Mabel announced their engagement.
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" I read that a Dutch royal had announced his engagement after the announcement of the pregnancy of a future heir to the throne."


You mis-read and I left out the "a week later" part.
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:26 AM
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Anyway, it's still a disgrace that they shouldn't allow him to marrry who he wants.
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:45 AM
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No, I didn't misread at all, Dennism! B)
Thanks for your concern, though.
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Old 11-04-2003, 08:36 AM
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Okay. Well, I just poorly put it. In my defence, I note the time and place of when I made the post.
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Old 11-04-2003, 10:56 AM
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hola-online started to join the speculation about a possible pregnancy, a break-up as well as an anorexia...
anyone any idea of what is going on there?

thank you,

maria karolina :o
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Anorexia and the pregnacy are just speculation. Don't believe that.

But a break-up is really possible...
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Anyway, it's still a disgrace that they shouldn't allow him to marrry who he wants.
They allow him to marry, but after the marriage they will take his title of. I agree to that, because it's to dangerous with her mafia-connections.
The family could have been more damaged than they are now.
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Old 11-04-2003, 01:28 PM
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Dangerous? Who are they to judge? Was it damaged because Beatrix married Claus? No, because they were given time to become a family under the royal title. They made themselves loved. I fear the same thing could have happened with Maxima. What did she do? We don't pick our parents.
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Old 11-04-2003, 01:34 PM
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We don't pick our parents.
The saying I like even better is, "We can pick our mate, but their family comes as part of the package". .. something to that effect.
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Old 11-04-2003, 01:46 PM
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Perhaps. However, we have an example of two matches in a row that the public has been upset with. But JF has won't be able to have the throne which was up in the air anyway. Have they taken polls. Do the Dutch people disagree with the Parliament? It's wrong. His mother unexpectedly became queen. And the people and the governments accepted her and Claus. It' just wrong and I feel sorry for them.
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His mother unexpectedly became queen.
This is the first I hear about this story. Unexpectedly, meaning ?
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:55 PM
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Well, I mean that Juliana stood down surprisingly and Beatrix was still relatively young.
Not as long as a time period per se as the Prince of Wales is waiting.
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Old 11-04-2003, 06:12 PM
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I think you got that wrong, Dennis.

As I understood it, on her 65-th birthday, Juliana abdicated, to go into retirement just like everybody else does in The Netherlands when they reach that age.

I read somewhere, that is what Beatrix plans to do as well, when she reaches that age.


In this regard, it seems that its only the monarchs of The Netherlands and Luxembourg who are wise in this way, of stepping down while still alive.
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Old 11-04-2003, 06:20 PM
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I think Queen Wilhelminia (sp?) abdicated sometime in the 50s? So she might have been about 65 then too? It would be great if anyone had personal history on any of these Dutch queens. Someone shared the published but personal comments of QWil.... which was quite interesting.
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