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Old 07-28-2010, 12:20 AM
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Mary, Mette-Marit and Daniel married into titles but there isn't that much of a bank account to boast about. If money was their primary motivator they could have done much better elsewhere. Charlene may have fallen in love with Albert the person buy initially I doubt whether she would have given Albert a second look if he was not a Prince!
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For my opiniion, I think MM, Mathilde and Letizia would marry to his husband though they are not prince or lose their royal titles. I'm not very certain that Mary, Maxima and Charlene would do so if Fred, WA and Albert aren't princes and one day suddenly lose their royal titles. Certainly, Daniel would marry to Victoria no matter she isn't a princess.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:33 PM
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Why don't you think Mary, Maxima and Charlene wouldn't marry their husbands if they weren't princes???

If money was the object, I think they could have found richer men in their own countries instead of moving across the world, giving up your privacy etc.

It seems tom me that it is the CPs that are lucky here. I don't think that either of these women would marry for ANYthing but love. They can take care of themselves

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For my opiniion, I think MM, Mathilde and Letizia would marry to his husband though they are not prince or lose their royal titles. I'm not very certain that Mary, Maxima and Charlene would do so if Fred, WA and Albert aren't princes and one day suddenly lose their royal titles. Certainly, Daniel would marry to Victoria no matter she isn't a princess.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:21 PM
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It seems tom me that it is the CPs that are lucky here. I don't think that either of these women would marry for ANYthing but love. They can take care of themselves
You are correct. These women are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. Sure they may not be able to purchase the designer they can now but before their princes came along they had thriving careers that paid well.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:46 PM
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Mary, Mathilde, Charlene, Letizia, MM, Camilla and can we count Daniel? are definete yes' for me.
Marie-Chantal is a NoNo, even if she did marry a non-reigning Crown Prince.

Kate i'm unsure about.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:01 PM
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We've talked about if or if not the Crown Princesses would have married thier husbands, but what about the men who are/were in their same position, like the late Prince Claus, Prince Henrik, Prince Philip, and now Prince Daniel?
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:39 PM
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We've talked about if or if not the Crown Princesses would have married thier husbands, but what about the men who are/were in their same position, like the late Prince Claus, Prince Henrik, Prince Philip, and now Prince Daniel?
Prince Henrik is from noble blood (House of Laborde de Monpezat), and yes, if the-then Crown Princess of Denmark was not of royal blood, I think he still would have pursued her. You just have to look at him when he with her...it's so sweet Prince Daniel is a definite yes - he adores her.

Prince Phillip is the one I doubt - he came from the-then defunct Greek Royal Family and was reported to be rather unwealthy. I don't he was in love with the-then Princess Elizabeth when he married her, I think he has fallen in love with her during the course of their marriage. Her Majesty, on the other hand, is completely besotted by him. Even at her age, you can still tell she gets all giddy around him. If she was a commoner, or a lesser royal, I don't think he would have bothered.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you, CrownPrincessJava, as Elizabeth was extremely attractive as a young lady. Btw, I've always wondered how two such attractive individuals, Elizabeth & Philip, created Prince Charles; Prince Andrew I can see, as he was drop dead gorgeous as a young man, and still attractive today, but Charles, not so much. Anyhow, just musing.

Back on topic, Elizabeth's pleasing countenance, combined with her undoubtedly ladylike manners, would have made her the creme of the ball regardless if she was royal or not, imho. Easy to see why Philip fell for her, and IIRC they corresponded for 8 yrs. before they were married in 1947.

Lol, in fact their love story has always been a favorite of mine, meeting so young when Elizbath was just 13 yrs. old & Philip 18. Love at first sight for Elizabeth (I do agree with you, CrownPrincessJava, that even to this day she seems so besotted with him, like "I can't believe he's mine", lol).

That said, Philip (imho), could have had his pick of any one, that's how gorgeous he was as a young man (leastways to me, lol). Royal on both sides of his family, educated, fluent in 3 languages, outstanding naval career, and a stickler for duty. He's a fav of mine, in case you haven't guessed, it is because of him that the royal family has lasted this long, imho.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:03 AM
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He's a fav of mine, in case you haven't guessed, it is because of him that the royal family has lasted this long, imho.
Nooo, really????

I saw pictures of them when first married, when she became Queen and now, and it appears to me he fell in love with her over a period of time. He got to know the woman once they were married, and I will never forget seeing footage of her coronation...he was in awe of her.

Queen Elizabeth still reminds me of a 16-year-old girl when she's around him and I just giggle. It's so sweet to see. He eyes light up whenever he is around her.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:02 PM
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Would He Have Married Her? (and vice versa)

We have the "Would She Have Married Him" thread so here is one the other way around. I know questrions regarding this have been asked in the other thread but I thought it would be more appropraite and better organized if this thread was created.

So I wanted to get people's opinions on these couples (and others). Do you think the men would have married the women if they weren't in the positions that they were in?

Daniel and Victoria (if she wasn't the crown princess)
Henrik and Margrethe (if she wasn't the crown princess)
Philip and Elizabeth (if she wasn't the heiress apparent)
Constantine and Anne-Marie (if she wasn't a Danish princess)
Juan Carlos and Sofia (if she wasn't a Greek princess)
Pavlos and Marie Chantal (if she wasn't as wealthy as she is)
Ranier and Grace (is she hadn't been an actress)
Antony and Margaret (if she wasn't the Queen's sister)
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:28 AM
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I´m sure that Daniel would have married Victoria, even though she wasn´t a crown princess. Many swedish court experts and Daniel´s friends have said that when Victoria first game to the gym, Daniel wasn´t at all impressed of that she was a crown princess, he wasn´t at all impressed of royals. He just wanted to do his business very well and give Victoria a peaceful place to train in private. Daniel has also told that his family has never been a keen follower of the life of the royal family.
Victoria and Daniel have loved eachother for eight and a half years. I think that if he was a gold digger, he would have wanted to marry a lot sooner and would have used his publicity to promote his businesses. Daniel has kept a very low profile during their whole relationship and has given no interviews regarding his relationship to Victoria or to the royal family. He has wanted to adapt to his royal role and learn as much as possible before the wedding.
To Daniel Victoria has always been his girlfriend (and now wife), not a crown princess. And in their wedding you could so clearly see, that Daniel loves Victoria with whole his heart, he had tears in his eyes when he saw Victoria enter the church and he cried almost during the whole wedding. I had a feeling that Daniel was afraid to the last point that something would happen and he would not have Victoria as his wife. The woman he loves more than anything. When the archbishop said: You are now man and wife, you could see the happiness in Daniel´s face. And the loving and emotional speech to Victoria said it all.
I also think that Daniel has hoped many times during their relationship, that Victoria wasn´t a crown princess. His life would have been much easier then.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:13 AM
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If money was the object, I think they could have found richer men in their own countries instead of moving across the world, giving up your privacy etc.

It seems tom me that it is the CPs that are lucky here. I don't think that either of these women would marry for ANYthing but love. They can take care of themselves
Its not about money but attention. Marrying into royalty doensnt only guarantee a lifelong luxury life but also a lifelong attention, being famous with the impression of being important.

I especially see Mary and Maxima enjoying this part of the deal what makes me think that especially these two wouldnt have married their husbands without the package. Letizia is into attention too but since she isnt given a similar platform to implement a profile of her own and the Spanish court cut back her personality she looks rather uncomfortable in her role - big misjudgement from that respect. Although I think that Letizia married Felipe partly for the guaranteed professional carreer opportunity he offered I doubt she would marry Felipe again, knowing what would happen to her life.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:27 AM
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Daniel and Victoria (if she wasn't the crown princess) YES, he married her DESPITE being a CP, same goes for MM and Haakon

The old generation mainly didnt have a choice, it was expected to marry into royalty / nobility. The only love matches out of the older generation for me are Claus and Beatrix and Sonja and Harald.

Henrik and Margrethe (if she wasn't the crown princess) I dont think so
Philip and Elizabeth (if she wasn't the heiress apparent) I dont think so
Constantine and Anne-Marie (if she wasn't a Danish princess) NEVER EVER
Juan Carlos and Sofia (if she wasn't a Greek princess) NEVER EVER

Pavlos and Marie Chantal (if she wasn't as wealthy as she is) NEVER EVER
Ranier and Grace (is she hadn't been an actress) NEVER
Antony and Margaret (if she wasn't the Queen's sister) NEVER
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Daniel and Victoria (if she wasn't the crown princess) = Yes more than certainly.

Henrik and Margrethe (if she wasn't the crown princess) = I think so.

Philip and Elizabeth (if she wasn't the heiress apparent) = Yes, indeed.

Constantine and Anne-Marie (if she wasn't a Danish princess) = Yes, because Constantine didn't gain anything by the marriage, just a loving wife.

Juan Carlos and Sofia (if she wasn't a Greek princess) = Yes because JC didn't gain anything by marrying a non-reigning princess.

Pavlos and Marie Chantal (if she wasn't as wealthy as she is) = Yes, Pavlos didn't gain anything from MC's money did he?

Ranier and Grace (is she hadn't been an actress) = Most definetly, it was Grace who gained from this marriage.

Antony and Margaret (if she wasn't the Queen's sister) = I don't know a lot about this couple.
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^ didnt the king of greece ask MC for a $200 million dowry?
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Never heard that, and why would he?
The father of the groom asking for money is a bit weird, at least like I said it wasn't Pavlos who asked her for it.
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Here's my two sense:

Daniel and Victoria (if she wasn't the crown princess) Absolutely!

Henrik and Margrethe (if she wasn't the crown princess) I think so because Henrik could have had a much simpler life and he was already from a noble family so I think he would have married Margrethe anyway.

Philip and Elizabeth (if she wasn't the heiress apparent) I wish I could say that he would have married her anyway, but I really doubt it.

Constantine and Anne-Marie (if she wasn't a Danish princess) I one heard Constantine say in an interview that when he asked The Danish King for Princess Anne-Marie hand in marriage the King locked him in a bathroom until he could figure out what to do with him! Anyway, I think the would have married where she was a Princess or not.

Juan Carlos and Sofia (if she wasn't a Greek princess) They had a lot to overcome with thier marriage (like finding a common language), but I think that they did marry for love, you can see it looking at early photographs.

Pavlos and Marie Chantal (if she wasn't as wealthy as she is) I don't think he would have married her. He (and his family) did have a lot to gain by marry someone with such wealth.

Ranier and Grace (is she hadn't been an actress) I have to disagree with the fact that Lumutqueen said that it was Grace who gained from this marriage, hardly. She gave up a career and a life that she could never get back and in some photos after her marriage she did look sometimes depressed. It was Ranier who gained from this marriage. He knew what he was doing. Look at all the renewed interest in Monaco after Grace. We wouldn't be talking about Prince Albet's engagement over here if is mother had not been one of the greatest American actresses of all time.

Antony and Margaret (if she wasn't the Queen's sister) I don't think he would have married her if it wasn't for the fact that her sister was Queen.

Inaki and Cristina (if she wasn't the King's daughter) I think he would have married her no matter what!

Jaime and Elena (if she wasn't the King's daughter) I don't think he would have bothered.
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Never heard that, and why would he?
The father of the groom asking for money is a bit weird, at least like I said it wasn't Pavlos who asked her for it.
Dowries were quite common in earlier royal marriages, though the one with the Greek Royal Family would be the most modern one, as I don't believe that the other present monarchs had dowries involved with thier marriages. There might have been one in Spain, but I doubt it .
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Juan Carlos and Sofia (if she wasn't a Greek princess) = Yes because JC didn't gain anything by marrying a non-reigning princess.
This is where you are mistaken, at the time of the wedding, Sofia was a princess of a stable monarchy and Juan Carlos a prince of a not so stable one, with Franko breathing down their necks constantly, so it took alot of love from Sofia's part to marry him, and heck, I don't think he would have married her had she not been the daughter and sister of a king.
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I was going to say they married in 1995.
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