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Old 06-08-2011, 07:48 AM
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i was joking..but hmmm the real LAZIEST>>>
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:49 AM
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ilovemonaco: dont you know many princesses who just two months after their wedding had so many public outings or engagements: tour of a country, canada, for 10 days and 3 days in USA?

And be prepared for that in performing charming outings to get used to be amoung crowds and so small talks to people for accoutumance: Epsom, Trooping the colour, the ARK Gala tomorrow night, the Order of the Garter, attending the polo match for sentabele with william and harry.

Of course these events are not so hard to perform, but this is part of what all royal families have to do. I think her agenda is full for a just newly wed.

And with your name I think you are fan of the Monaco family. What did Charlene performs so hard?

Oh yes I know: choose her clothes on differents catalogues (Armani and Dior), do many many many photos shoots, and not smile during her numerous appareance at galas and galas. Very hard life for the Grimaldis

just because i love monaco doesnt mean i love charlene....her interview in her first grade french after pratically 4 years annoyed me...
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:17 AM
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How dare you Ilovemonaco to say Kate is lazy?

Kidding. Her past isn´t erased just with the wedding. Wow, she did art at the university and did some photos. Like Carl Philipp. And he got many mentions here as a lazy Royal. So where is the difference? Sorry, but it isn´t so that Kate was heavy involved in a career and boom she is now a Royal and had to change her life dramatically. So ITA Kate is a lazy Royal.
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I adore Prince Frederick, I hate that people perceive him as lazy. He is my fav Crown Prince, tied with Haakon. But I admit I am unable to get a lot of info on them and their lives now and in the past decades.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:19 AM
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When it comes to whether some royals are lazy or not, the interesting thing would be to know how many events/appointments they are asked to participate in and how many of those events they say no to, instead of looking at how many or few events they attend. The royals can't really go out and hunt for events to be a part of, if they don't get an invitation I don't think they would just turn up to be seen as working. It's difficult to compare different countries, how interested organizations and others are of having a royal to visit or opening or seeing something. For example in Sweden it's more likely that a local politician is asked to open a new hospital ward or a shopping centre, while in Britain perhaps a royal would be asked to come to those events.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:31 AM
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I think this is a very unfair thread because we don't have enough insider information to actually judge with even a hint of justice and fairness to it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:33 AM
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I agree with Kataryn about this being unfair as we simply do not have information about what goes on behind the scenes in royals lives. I just came here for a quick look.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:57 AM
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When it comes to whether some royals are lazy or not, the interesting thing would be to know how many events/appointments they are asked to participate in and how many of those events they say no to, instead of looking at how many or few events they attend. The royals can't really go out and hunt for events to be a part of, if they don't get an invitation I don't think they would just turn up to be seen as working. It's difficult to compare different countries, how interested organizations and others are of having a royal to visit or opening or seeing something. For example in Sweden it's more likely that a local politician is asked to open a new hospital ward or a shopping centre, while in Britain perhaps a royal would be asked to come to those events.
The Swedish royal family is very active in initiating events. The schedule of Prince Daniel has been very much initiated by the court in picking places and businesses he has visited. The royal couple's August travel around Sweden was announced and places of interest requested from all regions. The royal family does not sit back and wait for an invitation.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:02 AM
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I don't think you can compare royals from country to country. In some countries royals are very involved in supporting charitable organizations while in others this would be a non-starter since that would be considered the duty of the state and not private groups. In some countries the entire royal family undertake official engagements while in others it is really just the monarch & consort plus the heir and spouse. It is a case of horses for courses but as long the monarchy fulfills the needs of the individual country that is all that matters.
The tone of the thread sounds as if it was set up for some individual royal bashing.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:20 AM
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I don't think you can compare royals from country to country. In some countries royals are very involved in supporting charitable organizations while in others this would be a non-starter since that would be considered the duty of the state and not private groups. In some countries the entire royal family undertake official engagements while in others it is really just the monarch & consort plus the heir and spouse. It is a case of horses for courses but as long the monarchy fulfills the needs of the individual country that is all that matters.
The tone of the thread sounds as if it was set up for some individual royal bashing.
I feel the same. Most of the posters are comparing apples with oranges anyway.

Basically 2 royals in Monaco looking after a population of 36,371; 4-6 royals in Denmark looking after 5.5m and c.13-14 royals in the UK looking after 62.6 million. You just can't make comparisons.

It would also be a mistake to judge who is working harder by those you see. The press never mention Prince Andrew but yesterday he carried out 3 engagements. In fact all fulltime members of the royal family carried out engagements yesterday. Only Charles, Camilla and William made the news.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:39 AM
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The Swedish royal family is very active in initiating events. The schedule of Prince Daniel has been very much initiated by the court in picking places and businesses he has visited. The royal couple's August travel around Sweden was announced and places of interest requested from all regions. The royal family does not sit back and wait for an invitation.
That the court have initiated a schedule for Daniel (the same way they did for Victoria earlier) to learn to know the Swedish society and Swedish businesses, and that the court have created a new "Eriksgata" for the king's 40 years as monarch are special events, to introduce a new member of the family in his future role or to celebrate a jubilee. I don't think the court would start calling businesses and events to fill an empty weekly royal schedule unless it's something the royal really wants to participate in and haven't got an invitation.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:34 AM
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I feel the same. Most of the posters are comparing apples with oranges anyway.

Basically 2 royals in Monaco looking after a population of 36,371; 4-6 royals in Denmark looking after 5.5m and c.13-14 royals in the UK looking after 62.6 million. You just can't make comparisons.

It would also be a mistake to judge who is working harder by those you see. The press never mention Prince Andrew but yesterday he carried out 3 engagements. In fact all fulltime members of the royal family carried out engagements yesterday. Only Charles, Camilla and William made the news.
very good point.
also some royals (usually females) get more attention and press.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:55 PM
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Look back at pages from years ago and you will see people saying Charles and Camilla are lazy. That just made me laugh. It does appear that those who are regarded as lazy are simply just not liked by the person calling them that. The only royals in this thread that I would question as not working enough are Kate and Carl Philip.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:24 PM
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Anyone who is lazy royal or non-royal tries to get out of things and only does what they have to do. They don't go the extra mile.

Kate right now has health issues which would make working unrealistic or risky.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:34 PM
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As many of you know I have been keeping a personal count of the BRF CC this year - for fun, to see how much is done in the Jubilee year and to compare my figures with Tim Donovan at the end of the year to see how far out I am so...

before I started this count I knew that Charles and Anne were the hardest working, in terms of number of engagements done in Britain, that The Queen and Philip had scaled back, that Andrew and Edward did some things - but thought they were probably around 200 or so each, that Sophie and Camilla did the occasional appearance and that The Duke of Kent was the hardest working of The Queen's cousins followed by his sister.

What I have had confirmed this year is that Charles and Anne are two of the top three in terms of number of engagements - although The Queen is second - probably a blip due to the Jubilee (or my counting of engagements is way off), that Andrew and Edward actually do quite a lot, that Sophie and Camilla also do quite a lot and that The Duke of Gloucester actually does a lot more than the Kents.

My point is that press reports, and thus perspectives of which royals are working hard and which aren't, actually is skewed. William and Kate get pages of coverage every time they do anything while Andrew and Edward rarely get any coverage and yet they do way more than William and Kate - just looking at press coverage is very misleading as to the amount of work being done and what type of work it is as well e.g. chairing a meeting would require a lot more preparation than simply accompanying a more senior royal on a tour where all you have to do is look nice (nothing wrong with that of course) - both the meeting and the accompanying the more senior royal counts as one engagement but are they truly comparable in terms of amount of work involved?
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:41 PM
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As this was a general royal question - not specifically about BRF - can anyone tell me if the other royal families have the quivalent of the royal circular and a tally of the amount of work other RF's do?

Also defining laziness isnt just a question of the amount of work a person does but a measure against expectations. Full time royals should be out there; part time royals are out there sometimes. Cannot compare.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:15 PM
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...What I have had confirmed this year is that Charles and Anne are two of the top three in terms of number of engagements - although The Queen is second - probably a blip due to the Jubilee (or my counting of engagements is way off), that Andrew and Edward actually do quite a lot, that Sophie and Camilla also do quite a lot and that The Duke of Gloucester actually does a lot more than the Kents...
Yes, I was quite impressed when I read your posts of how many engagements Andrew and Edward do.
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Anyone who is lazy royal or non-royal tries to get out of things and only does what they have to do. They don't go the extra mile.

Kate right now has health issues which would make working unrealistic or risky.
And what about the other 20 months she had been married? I am not saying Kate is lazy I'm saying I understand why people see her and CP as being lazy.
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I'm not sure what 'lazy' means but Catherine sure as heck isn't lazy no matter what royal standards you judge her by.

Catherine is married to a grandson of the current Queen,it was announced on the their very engagement day that the couple would not be undertaking full-time 'royal duties'until Williams military career is over. Who would expect Catherine to be a 'working' royal when he husband is not?

But lets come to to what Catherine actually does do , she is patron to 4 very important and personal charities that she picked herself and believes ins.
As a 'third' of the Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry , Catherine is helping raise and dispense millions £ each year to dozens of worthy organizations and causes.

I think she is doing exactly what is expected of someone married to a high-profile but still junior member of the BRF.

W&C are focused on their married lives for the first couple of years and all the while work at their individual charities and Royal Foundation. I would judge her differently if she was married to a Crown Prince or even one of the Queens sons but as she is not, the workload she undertakes is more than enough IMO.
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