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Old 04-01-2007, 02:48 PM
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When others' express ignorance about royals...

I am curious how royalty fans in general respond to the ignorance of others about royalty. You know when you are watching something with a group, or maybe looking at a magazine with some friends, and there is something about a royal, and someone in the group says something that you know is totally benign and ignorant. How do you handle that? Do you try to explain the correct way or just try to ignore it?
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:17 PM
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I don't really take notice to be honest because I do the same about other subjects that I really have no clue about. So unless somebody says something that is completely wrong I just ignore it.
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:31 PM
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It´s okay for me when people are not interested in Royalty or when they smile about my love for the British Royals.
But i can not tolerate when somebody repeats the gossip about a Royal printed in a bad magazine and claims to know the truth.
Then i can´t keep silent...
So my life is sometimes a mission to convince people that the Prince of Wales is so much more than the ´ex-husband of Diana´, and that Camilla is so much more than a ´third person in a marriage´. I will not stop before all Germans will love the next King and Queen of the UK...
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:38 PM
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I live in the Netherlands. My country has to deal with the Orange-Nassau dynasty for more than 600 years.

Of course there is ignorance, but that is in general not negatively meant. It is just part of daily life. You see the Queen on coins, on post stamps, on TV and you are used to her. I have never experienced any other Queen than the present one, you know. If there is nagging, then in 90% it is always and ever about the costs of the monarchy and their privileged life. But learn me the Dutch: nagging is their second nature, especially if it is about taxes.

But for the rest it is just there. Like there is water in the river, and clouds in the sky, there is a Queen in the palace. The Dutch would miss it, not to see the glittering ceremonial on Princes' Day, or the fun fair on Queen's Day, etc.

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Old 04-01-2007, 03:47 PM
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I'll be honest- as an American, it is harder to find others who are as interested in royals as I am (other than here!). Particularly those who are interested in royals other than the British royals and the Monaco royals (who I'm not very into).
Some people, like my mother, who went with me to see the queen, could care less, (she's ambivilent), are willing to oblige me and listen to my stories. Other people, who are interested in geography and global cultures are willing to be listen, too. I think that is a lot about what I like about TRF- learning about the royals, and their lifes, but also learning about other cultures and countries from all of you!

I try to respect the people I'm talking to, and if they don't like the royals, then I try to talk about mutual interests, and if I happen to bring royalty into it, then all the better! For example, I can talk about history and architecture with some of my friends by discussing royal residences (I even did a case study about an old Spanish palace!) And almost all women are willing to hear about or look at royal jewels!!!
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:54 PM
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My all time fav royal is Princess Caroline and i've tried to change someone's opinion once but then i realised that those who share my interest on the Grimaldis aren't many so i gave up.Most of times i ignore their comments.
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:00 PM
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My all time fav royal is Princess Caroline and i've tried to change someone's opinion once but then i realised that those who share my interest on the Grimaldis aren't many so i gave up.Most of times i ignore their comments.
Why the Grimaldis and not the so much more historical Bourbons?

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Old 04-01-2007, 04:34 PM
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I agree with LadyK. In America, you don't find many people who are interested in royalty as let's say people in Europe. In my computer class at school, I had the picture of the young royals at King Harald's birthday bash as my background, and people were like "who are they?" And then I'd have to explain and some would act interested, others not. I guess it's just a matter of what each person likes.

But if someone is bashing a certain royal, then I sometimes have to bite my tounge...
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:20 PM
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I agree with LadyK about the royal jewels. It's not hard at all to find women interested in the jewels, or the shoes!
Thanks for your input. I don't try to shove my interest in royalty down people's throats. It's just that sometimes people will bring it up at random if they see, for example, Prince William or Prince Harry on a magazine. And they say stupid things that I know are just idiocy (at worst) or at best ignorance. It galls me but usually I just hold my tongue and try to change the subject. But I wondered if there might be a better way, so I had to ask.... I find that I relate well to what milla was talking about, how no one gives The Prince of Wales credit where he deserves it, or hates The Duchess of Cornwall because of Diana. I am frustrated a lot with randomly made, but no less ignorant comments about them too. But I guess you guys pretty much agree that silence and changing the topic is the best way to handle it.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:48 PM
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Well all my friends and family don't really care about the Royal Family of G.B. and Monaco. I think the only royals that my friends know about are The Queen,Princess Diana ,Charles, Wills and Harry.
Usually when some one is bashing my favorite royal I either post back saying something very smart and haughty. Or i just go to the members corner. I of course love to post at Princess Diana's threads its kinda my own personal quest to honor and perserve her great legacy.
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:07 PM
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Of course, I tries to explain to them what mistake they committed expressing a wrong opinion about this or that. Not only about Royalty but about any other issue. I also likes that other people teachs me new things.

And yes, I committed a lot of mistakes speaking about persons that I don't know, but in general I try not to speak about an issue I don't really know. If I aid something wrong is believing I'm saying the truth. One of my great-grandpa from my mother's side was not very much educated. He only learned how to read and to write in his 30's. he was a Catalan immigrant who become rich. But when he was invited to reunions and people began to speak about issues about the ones he never knew anything, he wouldn't utter a word about them. He used to say: "Don't speaks about things that are foreign to you. Remain silent, and then, pick a book on the matter and learn about this thing". He became quite instructed.

My family is interested in Royals and some of my friends does too. But even being this way, they uses to said wrong things about, for example, Morocco or Brunei Monarchies. They knows almost nothing about them.

But don't worry! I'm learning them a lot of info in the matter! An Argentine proverbe saids: "You'll learn until the day you must die" ("Muriendo y aprendiendo")

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Old 04-01-2007, 08:56 PM
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I am the same. I don't have a problem with those who take the mickey out of me because of my love for the Royals but I have a major problem with those who will pick up magazines with all the negative stories and believe it to be the truth. My family have come to know me as a strong protector of the Royals even Prince Albert.

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Old 04-01-2007, 09:14 PM
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I actually always pretend to be ignorant of the royals myself too. (I live in the US and most people don't realize other countries besides Britan still have royal families) so I am not really bothered by it.
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:12 PM
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I try to hide my love of the royals because of the ignorant Americans I happen to be blood related to. The only royalty my family knows about is the British and the Japanese, so if i mentioned Jordan, Lietchenstein, Luxembourg or even the Dutch royal families, they wouldnt have a clue what i was talking about. I tried talking my parents into letting me go on a solo tour (while they would be in Paris, France) of Luxmebourg by telling them i wanted to go because of the history, but really I wanted to see if i had a chance of seeing the Grand duke, Grand duchess or HG Prince Guillaume. But of course it didnt happen and i was stuck in Paris for 2 weeks ( not that Im complaining).
If only they actually bothered to watch the BBC once in a while.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:48 AM
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Generally, if I heard an "enormeous" silly thing, I try to correct or to disagree. If the ignorance concerns a royal detail, I do not say anything.

Just for laughing, I was once watching with friends the Hitchkock film with Grace Kelly and Kary Grand "Catch the thief"
At the end, one of my friends said :

"Wonderful beauty this Grace Kelly. Do you know that once she had an affair with Prince Rainier of Monaco ? ........"

I have corrected, It took me a long moment to go through the 25 years of this "affair"....
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:43 AM
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Why the Grimaldis and not the so much more historical Bourbons?

As far as this thread is concerned i was reffering to alive royals.We discuss often about the Grimaldis,we see them every week in mags because they live in France.Bourbons belong to history,i read/learn about them but that's all.I won't defend them or their choices and to be honest we don't talk about Bourbons.If France had a current RF maybe they would be my preference.You asked why i prefer them,well i like this family i see their photos and read articles concerning them ever since i was very young.
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:06 AM
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You'd have to try very hard to find someone else in Armenia, who's interested in the Royals at all. Most people here think that Monarchy exists only in the UK. Few have heard about the Dutch Monarchy. But when you say there are actually quite a few Monarchies, they are completely shocked. For most, Monarchy is something that doesn't have connection with the modern world.

I've no problems when people show ingorance about the Royals. If they are interested, I can tell them what I know, if not, let's talk about something else.
But I hate when they start talking about ridiculous and unfounded rumours as of facts. And I'm talking not only about the British Royals. it's hard for me to control myself when I hear all those ridiculous stuff again and again.
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Old 04-02-2007, 08:07 AM
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I don't talk about it too much. Many Australians are republicans (small r intentional) and see royalty as an antiquated and unnecessary thing. I will occasionally correct points of information but on the whole, it's my little devotion. I even minimise when my husband walks into the office to avoid the sniggers!!
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:36 AM
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I normally point out the facts and give a checkable reason why it is rubbish.... on the whole it depends on the other persons attitude, some people do not want to listen to facts, they want to live in cloud cuckoo land in total ignorance.

The majority of my friends and associates have the same opinion of various past and present royals.
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:04 AM
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I'll be honest- as an American, it is harder to find others who are as interested in royals as I am (other than here!). Particularly those who are interested in royals other than the British royals and the Monaco royals (who I'm not very into).

I try to respect the people I'm talking to, and if they don't like the royals, then I try to talk about mutual interests, and if I happen to bring royalty into it, then all the better! For example, I can talk about history and architecture with some of my friends by discussing royal residences (I even did a case study about an old Spanish palace!) And almost all women are willing to hear about or look at royal jewels!!!
the same almost goes here. the only place where i've encountered other Filipinos interested in royalty is here at TRF, and the folks here in my country are rather uninterested in royalty. i find it even funny that most are more interested in the British RF than Spanish RF, who have been our former colonizers. the only time they take some interest is when a royal does some visit here, and half of the time they get their facts wrong (most recent case was calling Andrea Casiraghi Prince Andrea).

whenever other people see me watching or reading stuff about royalty and they ask what's that or who's that, i just answer in a straightforward way and try to relate them to something that interests them. and then i get a "Oh, okay..." reaction. so much for explaining.
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