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Old 08-27-2016, 04:15 AM
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I agree that we can only judge the public persona and all princesses these days know the impact of the media, but i don't think every princess out there is looking to be "sweet" perse...
Take P.Anne of the UK: imo her public persona is dedicated, humorous, hard-working and down-to-earth (for a royal ), but my first thought would not be the word "sweet" when i think of her, and neither do i get the impression that that is was she strives to be
P.Caroline of Monaco is another one: grand, dedicated, and very "Monaco" (in a good sense) but "sweet" would not be the first thing on my mind either...

Are the princesses we *do* categorize as "sweet" the ones we know little else about than the smiling, hand-shaking, flower-accepting we see in pictures?
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:27 AM
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I agthe word "sweet" when i think of her, and neither do i get the impression that that is was she strives to be
P.Caroline of Monaco is another one: grand, dedicated, and very "Monaco" (in a good sense) but "sweet" would not be the first thing on my mind either...

Are the princesses we *do* categorize as "sweet" the ones we know little else about than the smiling, hand-shaking, flower-accepting we see in pictures?
NO Anne does nto want to be seen as "sweet" because she knows she can't do it. (and does not want to because it is not in her nature). I think that Diana was perhaps the first young princess who did little things, that got her a reputation as "sweet", kneeling down to talk to kids, letting them kiss her, touching people without gloves...
and in private, in spite of what people say (that her "being sweet" was all done in front of the cameras), she did a lot of private visiting and helping people that didnt get into the papers, but people often talked about it when she had died.. that she had visited theier dying child, or had them to tea when they had problems or given money.
Now seems like every princess below a certain age is seen hugging people or kissing babies... not that it is not sincere, Im sure it is, but I think she started hte trend...
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:30 AM
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NO Anne does nto want to be seen as "sweet" because she knows she can't do it. (and does not want to because it is not in her nature). I think that Diana was perhaps the first young princess who did little things, that got her a reputation as "sweet", kneeling down to talk to kids, letting them kiss her, touching people without gloves...
Well, maybe in the UK (although you could consider P.Charlotte of Wales https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prin...lotte_of_Wales), but there were royals before Diana who you could call "sweet", take for instance Q.Astrid of Belgium who "She was widely loved for her beauty, charm and simplicity. Her public and official engagements radiated enthusiasm."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_of_Sweden
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Well, maybe in the UK (although you could consider P.Charlotte of Wales https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prin...lotte_of_Wales), but there were royals before Diana who you could call "sweet", take for instance Q.Astrid of Belgium who "She was widely loved for her beauty, charm and simplicity. Her public and official engagements radiated enthusiasm."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_of_Sweden
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you cant possibly compare a princess of the Regency era with someone who became a royal in the 1980s. (not that I think Charlotte was sweet, she was sily and vulgar and was popular, mostly because she was seen as an improvement on George IV and his brothers.)
Or indeed the 1930's. Astrid was very popular, but I doubt if she did more than smile nicely and be a bit more informal than some others. Diana did things, small things, but little gestures to show that she was much more of an "ordinary person" and that she wasn't standing on ceremony as other British royals did...
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I suppose Queen Astrid was also one half of 'a golden couple' of royals, young, happy, in love, bringing up their own little family. I've read she and Leopold would sometimes turn up to their engagements hand in hand. It didn't hurt that they were both attractive either. I think if we time travelled and held such a poll as this in the 1930s, she might well have come out on top! And in the true love marriages in another thread, now I think about it!
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I think Princess Elisabeth of Belgium, the Duchess of Brabant, has the serenity of both her parents and the natural grace and sweetness of her mother. She has all in her to become a beloved Princess and Queen.

I think females have an advantage in that. Ingrid Alexandra, Estelle, Catharina-Amalia, Elisabeth, Leonor, is any of them not a promising beloved, sweet and gentle royal?
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When i think of Amalia i think extravert and out-going, not necessarily "sweet", Ingrid-Alexandra for me would be strongwilled, sporty and outdoorsy

Not all females are by default sweet, nor do they want to be...
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you cant possibly compare a princess of the Regency era with someone who became a royal in the 1980s. (not that I think Charlotte was sweet, she was sily and vulgar and was popular, mostly because she was seen as an improvement on George IV and his brothers.)
Or indeed the 1930's. Astrid was very popular, but I doubt if she did more than smile nicely and be a bit more informal than some others. Diana did things, small things, but little gestures to show that she was much more of an "ordinary person" and that she wasn't standing on ceremony as other British royals did...
For you Diana is the first and the sweetest princess, that's perfectly fine. For me she is neither.
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Maybe its just me but when I think of someone being "sweet", its usually children. By the time one grows to be an adult, there are other aspects of the personality that tend to dominate over sweetness.
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Lady Diana Spencer, in her engagement and wedding days was "sweet" but as things evolued and with what we know now about her, "sweet" seems not really a match. I think this probably will count for all royals. Who thinks that Queen Beatrix or Grand Duchess María Teresa are "sweet"? That seems to go with Disney Princesses and with real ones until they start their own life. Once the Infanta Dońa Cristina was sweetness herself. Not many will use that label now.
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Old 08-27-2016, 01:21 PM
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For you Diana is the first and the sweetest princess, that's perfectly fine. For me she is neither.
That wasnt what I said at all. Of course Diana isn't the first princess and I never said she was the sweetest; i just meant that it wouldn't take much in the 1930s to get a name for being "sweet/natural/informal/delightful" as a royal. A very little informality would probably do it.
I think though that in the 80s she did a lot of the things FIRST that the newer royals are now all doing.. being chatty with kids, smiley, easy going in her manner...etc. And I think that (while she had her faults) she backed them up with more practical kindness, it wasn't just a public show of pretty behaviour or manners...
As far as I can see from this thread people are mosltly saying "oh I like Princess X, she LOOKS really sweet and kind"...
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I think Princess Elisabeth of Belgium, the Duchess of Brabant, has the serenity of both her parents and the natural grace and sweetness of her mother. She has all in her to become a beloved Princess and Queen.

I think females have an advantage in that. Ingrid Alexandra, Estelle, Catharina-Amalia, Elisabeth, Leonor, is any of them not a promising beloved, sweet and gentle royal?
Since they are all kids, it is hard to say what they are like... (Unless -tehy are stroppy badly behaved kids.. I dont know...
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Maybe its just me but when I think of someone being "sweet", its usually children. By the time one grows to be an adult, there are other aspects of the personality that tend to dominate over sweetness.
Of course yes there are other aspects to a character, but a nice manner, a kindly heart, is a definite asset in the Royal job, because you are meeting people, tryng to be kind, friendly and at best a bit helpful to them.. so it helps if you can get on with them and have a certain charm and a natural kindliness. If you are very shy, to the point of being realy awkward, it is not going to come across well with the public...And I think that also, if you dont feel kindly towards people, it WILL come across eventually. You can act up to a point but there are royals like Anne who dont even try to act.. I think she does not feel kindly to people and it shows.
Ideally a nice kindly charming manner shoudl be backed up by doing the job, regularly, and if possible by backroom work..
Fergie, for example was relaxed and informal, but she went too far usually in her informal manner, and she didn't stick to steady work as a royal...
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