Royal Names

[Furienna]

Well, yes, when you say it, some name don't seem to go with those royal titles. But the worst scenario, that I've read in this thread, has to be "Princess Chelsy". It just won't sound good.

[Lady Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Furienna

Well, yes, when you say it, some name don't seem to go with those royal titles. But the worst scenario, that I've read in this thread, has to be "Princess Chelsy". It just won't sound good.

I don't know....it has a little ring to it- it could be worse .

[Sister Morphine]

My best friend's name is Elizabeth Marie, but she goes by Marie. When she was in elementary school, there were 5 other Elizabeths, so she went by her middle name to differentiate. It just stuck, although she said she's not going to legally change it to Marie.

[HRH Kerry]

What about Queen Paola of Belgium? Is Paola her first name?

In the US, whatever name is on your Social Securtiy Card is your legal name. There are a lot of men named William but go by the derivative of Bill, or Henry goes by Harry, etc. But whatever name is on the card is their "legal"name.

[SusanE]

Originally Posted by kerry

What about Queen Paola of Belgium? Is Paola her first name?

In the US, whatever name is on your Social Securtiy Card is your legal name. There are a lot of men named William but go by the derivative of Bill, or Henry goes by Harry, etc. But whatever name is on the card is their "legal"name.

According to the following Wikipedia article, your legal name is what appears on your birth certificate or marriage license.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_name

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by SusanE

According to the following Wikipedia article, your legal name is what appears on your birth certificate or marriage license.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_name

And your legal name is on your social security card as well. That's why it's used as a valid form of identification, especially when you're getting a passport or driver's license. When a woman marries and she changes her name, she has to file a request to have a new one sent to her with the new name on it. My mom had to when she got married.

You can't have a social security card with nicknames or other names on it. It must be the name you were given at birth UNTIL you legally change it, which will give you a new legal name to put on a new card.

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by kerry

What about Queen Paola of Belgium? Is Paola her first name?

Donna Paola Margherita Giuseppina Maria Antonia Consiglia dei Principi Ruffo di Calabria.

(daughter of the 6th Duke of Guardia Lombarda and Donna Luisa Gazelli di Rossana e di Sebastiano)



Doña Fabiola Fernanda María de las Victorias Antonia Adelaida de Mora y Aragón

(daughter of the Marquess de Casa Riera, Count of Mora and Doña Blanca de Aragón y Carrillo de Albornoz Barroeta-Aldamar y Elio)

[madeleine victoria]

Royal ladies have very long names...I kinda like it but I don't think its very appropriate if your not royal.. usually commoners have 3 names.. It must be very good if your a royal mum and you can have your baby with names of monarchs at least 5 names... I've got a question, does Leonor just leonor? I mean almost all royal babies have long names..I don't recall our baby Leonor being called by another name or perhaps an extension to her name well except for Infanta which is not a name.. Does anyone know the complete name of Leonor?

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by madeleine victoria

Does anyone know the complete name of Leonor?

She is called:
Su Alteza Real Doña Leonor de Todos los Santos de Borbón y Ortiz, Infanta de España.

(Translated:
Her Royal Highness Lady Leonor of all the Saints of Bourbon and Ortiz, Infant of Spain.)

[madeleine victoria]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

She is called:
Su Alteza Real Doña Leonor de Todos los Santos de Borbón y Ortiz, Infanta de España.

(Translated:
Her Royal Highness Lady Leonor of all the Saints of Bourbon and Ortiz, Infant of Spain.)

Just to satisfy my curiosity.. why is she called a LADY instead of Princess? she's called Infanta because she's thedaughter of the heir to the throne. like her aunts, they are Infantas bec they are daughters of the current king of Spain. sorry for my ignorance, it's just that Spain is so complicated...and i really like their RF..

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by morhange

Something that just hit me earlier when I was reading hellomagazine's online article about the Luxembourg wedding anniversary.

All of the current Crown Princesses in Europe, and most of them are commoners, still have very regal names. You have Mary, Mathilde, Maxima, Letizia, Sophie, Maria Teresa (because she's a commoner, but her name is still very royal). The only one which sort of isn't is Mette-Marit, but it easily sounds just as regal and pretty, and it's very unique.

Very interesting that these princes chose to marry commoner ladies with such gloriously royal names. Thank goodness, otherwise we might be gossiping about Crown Princess Cindy of Denmark, or the Hereditary Princess Gretchen (not that there's anything wrong with these names, but I think you get what I mean)

I separate the cases
Mary is very very commun, nothing special, the person looks regal to me, but her name not especially.
Mathilde, belongs to a very high aristocratic family, from both sides, her mother is a polish countess, so these families give very regal historical names to their girls, even if she had not married Prince Philip, she would have sound regal.
Maria Teresa, YES it souns very regal
All other, is nothing for me, you have a lot of Sophies, of Leticias, I even now some Maximus & Maximas.
About Mette Maritt, it does not sound very high to me, but I think you have to speak Norwegian to really feel it.

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

I separate the cases
Mary is very very commun, nothing special, the person looks regal to me, but her name not especially.

This very special name is at once very common and in the same time very regal. Lot of queens and princesses have been named Mary/Marie/Maria...

Mathilde, belongs to a very high aristocratic family, from both sides, her mother is a polish countess, so these families give very regal historical names to their girls, even if she had not married Prince Philip, she would have sound regal.

Mathilde is, you're right, a regal name, that several queens had.

Maria Teresa, YES it souns very regal
All other, is nothing for me, you have a lot of Sophies, of Leticias, I even now some Maximus & Maximas.
About Mette Maritt, it does not sound very high to me, but I think you have to speak Norwegian to really feel it.

I agree with Maria Teresa: it's a very regal name, and we can only think to empress Maria Teresa of Austria.
Maxima is great but not regal to me, Sophie is ok, so is Letizia. As for Mette-Marit, I don't know what to think.

[Sister Morphine]

There's a difference between your "daily" name, or what people call you on a day to day basis and your "legal" name, which is what you were registered with. My legal name on my birth certificate is Beth Ann *last name*, and I could use either as my "daily" name, but only Beth is my legal first name, as Ann is my middle name. I cannot use Ann as my legal name unless I have my name legally changed to Ann.

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

There's a difference between your "daily" name, or what people call you on a day to day basis and your "legal" name, which is what you were registered with. My legal name on my birth certificate is Beth Ann *last name*, and I could use either as my "daily" name, but only Beth is my legal first name, as Ann is my middle name. I cannot use Ann as my legal name unless I have my name legally changed to Ann.

In France we have not the difference between daily name and legal name. My legal names are Marie Danièle Anne, and I can use as daily name on every documents either Marie either Danièle either Anne. On official documents I will be named as Marie Danièle Anne, which are the names I'm registered with. We have no middle name here.

[HRH Kerry]

Usually, if a person is known by a nickname or derivative it can be their legal name as long as it is on their Social Security Card. There are affidavits just for that cause which I belive have to filed in a court.

Didn't Queen Mary go by the name of Princess May and then Princess Mary once she married? I think so but I'm sure someone could set the record straight for me.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by kerry

Usually, if a person is known by a nickname or derivative it can be their legal name as long as it is on their Social Security Card. Their are affidavits just for that cause which I belive have to filed in a court.

Didn't Queen Mary go by the name of Princess May and then Princess Mary once she married? I think so but I'm sure someone could set the record straight for me.

Queen Mary's first name was Victoria, her second name Mary. She went by Mary as Queen because Queen Victoria requested no queen use that name after her [When she became Queen, that would have been her name], so she used Mary instead. May is just a nickname for Mary.

And you can't have nicknames on your social security card. Your social security card must have your LEGAL name on it. If your name is Katherine and everyone calls you Kitty, you can't put Kitty on your social security card unless you legally change your name to Kitty. When a woman marries and changes her last name, she must apply for a new social security card to reflect her new name. She can't use the card that had her maiden name on it. If you decide to legally change your first name to your middle name, you need to get a new card. Legal names are not the same as daily names. Like my friend for example; she goes by Marie, which is her middle name but on her social security card it says Elizabeth Marie because Elizabeth is her legal first name.

[HRH Kerry]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

Queen Mary's first name was Victoria, her second name Mary. She went by Mary as Queen because Queen Victoria requested no queen use that name after her [When she became Queen, that would have been her name], so she used Mary instead. May is just a nickname for Mary.

And you can't have nicknames on your social security card. Your social security card must have your LEGAL name on it. If your name is Katherine and everyone calls you Kitty, you can't put Kitty on your social security card unless you legally change your name to Kitty. When a woman marries and changes her last name, she must apply for a new social security card to reflect her new name. She can't use the card that had her maiden name on it. If you decide to legally change your first name to your middle name, you need to get a new card. Legal names are not the same as daily names. Like my friend for example; she goes by Marie, which is her middle name but on her social security card it says Elizabeth Marie because Elizabeth is her legal first name.

Thanks, Sister Morphine. I didn't quite know what was what with Queen Mary just that she was called something else prior to her being queen.

I didn't change my card until I was married for almost a year. When I filed my income taxes for that year, my maiden was on my tax return because I had not changed it to my married name.

The only way that you can have a nickname on your social security card is if that is your legal name. Your card can read BOZO THE CLOWN as long as that is your legal name. It can become your legal name via name affadavits.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by kerry

The only way that you can have a nickname on your social security card is if that is your legal name. Your card can read BOZO THE CLOWN as long as that is your legal name. It can become your legal name via name affadavits.

Right, which is what I said. If you want your nickname on your social security card, you must legally change your name to that name and then reapply for a new card.

[iowabelle]

Queen Mary was referred to as Princess May of Teck before she married.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by iowabelle

Queen Mary was referred to as Princess May of Teck before she married.

And I believe she was referred to as May even after she was Queen, by those closest to her.


I often wonder if William were to marry someone else [say he and Kate split up] and her name is Victoria, if they'd make her choose another name to reign under.