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Old 05-30-2004, 05:42 PM
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RE: Princess Madeleine and Prince William. THey would be a good match, but I doubt anyone can be happy marrying into England's royal family. SHe comes from a nice, loving family, it looks like, and William, well, we all know how cold and dysfunctional GB's royal family is. Plus the British Press seems to absolutely hate them. The other European papers seem more, what is the word, deferential or not as nosy, or not as gleeful to bring about or report bad things. But looks-wise, they'd make a great pair. And she could certainly handle the job.
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RE: Princess Madeleine and Prince William. THey would be a good match, but I doubt anyone can be happy marrying into England's royal family. SHe comes from a nice, loving family, it looks like, and William, well, we all know how cold and dysfunctional GB's royal family is. Plus the British Press seems to absolutely hate them. The other European papers seem more, what is the word, deferential or not as nosy, or not as gleeful to bring about or report bad things. But looks-wise, they'd make a great pair. And she could certainly handle the job.
Yes. She would know what to expect. And looks wise, they would be a good match. But she did not like the British press when she was over there. They are a problem indeed.
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Originally posted by Dennism+May 30th, 2004 - 5:05 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dennism &#064; May 30th, 2004 - 5:05 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Paulina@May 30th, 2004 - 5:42 pm
RE: Princess Madeleine and Prince William. THey would be a good match, but I doubt anyone can be happy marrying into England&#39;s royal family. SHe comes from a nice, loving family, it looks like, and William, well, we all know how cold and dysfunctional GB&#39;s royal family is. Plus the British Press seems to absolutely hate them. The other European papers seem more, what is the word, deferential or not as nosy, or not as gleeful to bring about or report bad things. But looks-wise, they&#39;d make a great pair. And she could certainly handle the job.
Yes. She would know what to expect. And looks wise, they would be a good match. But she did not like the British press when she was over there. They are a problem indeed. [/b][/quote]
Yes, I also think the British Press will be a henderance on William&#39;s wife, whether it be Theodora, Madeliene, or Sarah down the street. Yet I do think the advantage of a girl born royal, in this situation, would be that she would in a sense know how to deal with the problem better than someone who has not been in the position. The British press is going to stalk whoever William&#39;s future wife is, but if he married someone like Theodora or Madeliene or whoever, they would probably know how to deal with it better at first than someone not used to that life (not that anyone is used to the British press other than the British Royals). I also think that the British Royals have learned to, in a way, train new members of their family to deal with the hounds of the British press.
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Yes, I also think the British Press will be a henderance on William&#39;s wife, whether it be Theodora, Madeliene, or Sarah down the street. Yet I do think the advantage of a girl born royal, in this situation, would be that she would in a sense know how to deal with the problem better than someone who has not been in the position. The British press is going to stalk whoever William&#39;s future wife is, but if he married someone like Theodora or Madeliene or whoever, they would probably know how to deal with it better at first than someone not used to that life (not that anyone is used to the British press other than the British Royals). I also think that the British Royals have learned to, in a way, train new members of their family to deal with the hounds of the British press.
Good points, A.C.C. Maybe things will be different for her. We can only hope.
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Anybody have any more dream couples you can think of?
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Old 08-29-2004, 05:48 PM
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Theodora of Greece
Guillaume of Luxembourg

Harry of Great Britian
Maria Anunciata of Liechtenstein (Guillaume's cousin. Is she Catholic?)
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yes, the royal family of liechtenstein is catholic.

william of britain and marie christine of austria would make a nice couple...
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Yes, but she is Catholic...:)
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William = Theodora of Greece (Marie-Chantal will be so happy!)
Peter of Serbia = Madelaine of Sweden
Phillipos of Greece = Eugenie of York
Nicholas of Greece = Victoria of Sweden
Carl-Philip of Sweden = Marie-Christine of Austria
Henri of GB = Marie-Annunciata of Liechtenstein
Guillaume of Luxemburg = Elisabeth of Thurn & Taxis
Felix of Luxemburg = Maria-Laura of Austria-Este & Belgium
Amedeo of Austria-Este & Belgium = Amelia of Brazil
Jean-Cristophe Napoleon = Alexandra of Luxemburg
Aimone of Aosta (Italy) = Maria-Carolina of Bourbon-Parma
Carlos of Bourbon-Parma = Anna-Maria of Bavaria
Jaime of Bourbon-Parma = Pricilla of Austria
Georg-Friedrich of Prussia = Julia-Katharina of Anhalt
Jean of France = Tatiana of Oldenburg (no countess of Paris to boycot a marriage anymore
Ernst-August of Hannover (son of) = Beatrice of York

for the very, very far future:
Gabriel of Belgium = Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands
Deniz of Portugal = Elisabeth of Belgium
Felix of Denmark = Ingrid-Alexandra of Norway

and if I could change the past:
Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands = Cristina of Spain (never understood why it didn t work out for them)
Johan-Friso of the Netherlands = Alexia of Greece
Constantijn of the netherlands = Tatiana of Liechtenstein
Beatrix = George of GB, Duke of Kent (pure for the sake of the family tree, Prince Claus and Queen Bee were a perfect couple)
Margriet = Harald V of Norway
Juliana = Peter of Greece & Denmark (helas....his great grandfather owned a casio..so Wilhelmina and the dutch diplomats & politicians vetoed him & Bernhard grabbed his chance)
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Hmmm.......outside of Dennism and Victoria, I can't really think of anyone. I'll give this considerable thought
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Donīt you mean Marie-Christine of Luxembourg and Carl Philip?
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there is no Marie-Christine of Luxembourg. But you are close... she is the eldest daughter of Archduke Carl-Christian of Austria and his 2nd cousin Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg. So that makes her the eldest grandchild of Jean & Josephine-Charlotte. I hope for Prince Carl-Phillip that Marie-Christine doesn't take after her grandmother in character :P
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marengo, that's a really good list...

william would be a good match for marie christine... but we have the same problem of the religions as with william....
btw, guillaume and elisabeth of thurn und taxis would make a lovely couple... but... felix and maria laura of belgium?
great choice also for catharina amalia, peter and madeleine of sweden...

who is amelia of brazil?
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Marie-Christine would be perfect, just like her mother Marie-Astrid would have been perfect or the Prince of Wales. But they are catholics. I do expect the law on that to be changed if fe William truly wants to marry a girl who happens to be catholic. I think most people agree that such laws are not of this time any more and has served its purpose long ago.

Felix and Maria-Laura are perhaps to closely related (although 2nd cousins isn t realy damaging it is not well accepted socially). The choise within catholic royal families is limited so that is how they ended up together

Amelie of Brazil is the eldest daughter of Antonio de Brazil and the belgian Princess Alix de Ligne (daughter of Pss Alix of Luxembourg). The de Ligne family is the eldest princely family in Belgium. Antonio's brother is the head of the imperial house of Brazil & Antonio/ his eldest son will be the eventual heir as Antonio's elder brothers arent married or are married morganatically. The dynasty is french/portuguese btw: Orleans-Braganca.

The Gabriel & Catherina-Amalia version was debated in the press only days after the birth of CA. As a belgian senator wanted to change the belgian law which forbids a marriage of a member of the belgian rf with an Orange-Nassau.

Sadly for geneolagy-lovers (but luckily for most persons involved) there is only a very small chance that even one of these marriages will ever happen. Although Georg-Friedrich of Prussia has a reasonable match (geneolagy speaking) if his rumoured engagement to Princess Sophie of Isenburg is true. I also expect the children of Carl-Christian & Marie-Astrid of Austria and Lorenz & Astrid of Austria-Este & Belgium to marry royals/ nobles.
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Thanks for your comments, Marengo. I liked your picks and would be happy if one came true.

I also expect the law to change if William wants to marry a Catholic. But there are several possible choices for William from the GB nobility. So I don't think the law will change unless she's the one his family picks. It'll be interesting to see some of his family's choices - remember GB press covering Charles' love life and Di (intense gossip before/after the marriage and divorce).

I think William and Guillaume will both marry before they're 30. So the royal families/matchmakers will stay busy!

Your choice for William was Theodora. You may be right, considering the ties between their familes.

My hope - the younger royals meet now and one marriage happens. I think a lot of people want a match between two royals. So perhaps one will happen.

What about the Casiraghi trio? Albert may never marry. If so, Caroline may want to restore some grace to Monaco and seek mates for Andrea, Charlotte and Pierre from the nobility/royal families.

Do you have any information on Juliana Edenia Anto of Netherlands (mother is Princess Christina of the Netherlands)?
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Hm, the Cashiragi's.....
Andrea = Countess Maria-Gabriella of Nassau.

She is the daughter of Prince Jean of Luxembourg and Helene Vestur. Jean is the brother of the present Grand Duke and 2nd son of the previous one. As hos parents (well...his mother) did not approve of his marriage hjis children are not Princes of Luxembourg but Counts of Nassau. Maria-Gabriella is quite dashing as I noticed when I saw the pictures of the bapstism of Jean of Luxembourg (son of Guillaume and Sybilla).

Charlotte = Albrecht of Thurn und Taxis, the most wealthy prince in germany & son of a gay father and a lesbian father...so the gossip magazines will be satisfied. OR Ludwig of Bavaria. He is the eventual heir to the royal house of Bavaria. Duke Franz has no children, Duke Max only 5 daughters...so the 'throne' will go to his father Luitpold and then to him.

Pierre = Marie-Astrid of Liechtenstein (sister of Marie-Annunciata)

well, if the monaco royals are still not taken for real after these marriages I don t know what will make them respectable.

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Constantin of Nassau -1988- (brother of Maria-Gabriella) = ...hmm, don t know yet. He is very handome so help me find a suitable princess :)

Nicolai of Denmark = Alexandra of Hannover (another Hannoverian-Danish alliance)

Count Claus-Casimir of Orange-Nassau = Lady Louise Wessex

Sebastien of Luxembourg = Archduchess Eleonore of Austria

Prince Constantin-Alexios of Greece = Countess Eloise of Orange-Nassau

Prince Achilles-Andreas of Greece = Princess Louise of Belgium

Boris of Bulgaria (eldest son of Kardan and Miriam) = Maria-Olympia of Greece

Alfonso of Portugal = Laetizia of Austria-Este and Belgium

Leopold of Luxembourg = Franzisca of Portugal

Georg-Phillip of Saxony (-Gesaphe) = Luisa-Maria of Austra-Este and Belgium

Ferdinand-Zvonimir of Austria = Charlotte of Luxembourg

Joachim of Austria-Este and Belgium = Marie-Amelie of Wurttemberg

Joseph of Liechtenstein = Sophie-Dorothee of Wurttemberg

I think you (rare) are right about William marrying a british girl. Maybe the eldest granddaughter the Countess Mountbatten of Burma? ..or Lady Mary-Louise Wellesey, Lady Sophia-Rose Seymour or Lady Edwina Cavendish (her mother, the duchess of Westminster is a godmother of William and her father the richest man in GB).

I don t know much about Juliana Guillermo. I saw her on television lately, during a concert her mother gave in Porto-Ercole, Italy in loving mempory of the late Queen Juliana. Juliana G is quite down-to-earth, at ease with the camera, polite, charming and beautiful. She lives in London and studies history of the art (like William?) and is dating a rich arab guy who is some years her senior. I believe it is a serious relationship but not much is known.
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Let's put together Prince William with Princess Madeleine of Sweden. I heard many Swedes have this dream on a television documentary called "Young, Sexy, and Royal". Although William has been enamoured of a brunette as of late, He will return to us blondes!!! Madeleine is beautiful, well educated, and knows what to expect!
This pair was at one time the wish of Queen Elizabeth II. I remember reading once that the Queen had attempted to set up a meeting between the two a few years back, but it was reported that Queen Silvia was is dead set against this and wishes Madeleine to stay in the Swedish Royal Family. Prince Charles also wishes his son to marry whom ever he wishes. However, King Carl Gustav was reported to be semi-supportive of the idea as he wouldn't mind having his daughter being the Queen of the United Kingdom.

Although I agree they would make a cute couple the days of royals marrying royals is long gone.
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I think Prince William with Princess Madeleine was just gossip. To me, the Queen Elizabeth would never wish it - love life well-known, likes to party, too high-profiled (not my opinion, but how Madeleine is sometimes portrayed by the media). Di, not Charles or Charles and Di, was always the focus. Charles and the queen may not want a repeat of this for William.

Madeleine said she has never meet him and left GB due to the media.

For what I read, many would love to see the two together. That would be one cute couple, but living with a boyfriend may be too controversial for whom ever William decides to marry.

The days of royals marrying royals is long gone.
That's so true!
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there is no Marie-Christine of Luxembourg. But you are close... she is the eldest daughter of Archduke Carl-Christian of Austria and his 2nd cousin Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg. So that makes her the eldest grandchild of Jean & Josephine-Charlotte. I hope for Prince Carl-Phillip that Marie-Christine doesn't take after her grandmother in character :P
Yes, my mistake. I was close. I just remembered her mother and forgot about her father.
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