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Old 03-11-2015, 06:11 PM
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The question is impossible. The definition of a monarchy is: a system of state in which the highest office is fulfilled by hereditary succession.

The Pope is often seen as a monarch but he is elected by the Conclave. At the other hand one can argue that a hereditary succession is impossible when the head of state always is a man living in celibate....

The Republic of the United Provinces was in name a republic but no any citizen ever elected the highest office. From the beginning of the Republic, the office of the Stadtholder was fulfilled by members of the princely family Orange-Nassau. The office was formally declared hereditary twice and the line of the Stadtholders is continued in the current royal family of the Netherlands...

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Old 03-11-2015, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie View Post
Another way of looking at it is that a child has no choice about how to live their lives - it is dictated for them as an act of chance - basically they are a slave to their position as they don't have the basic freedoms the rest of us have.

The monarch is denied many human rights.
The child, the heir, will still have rights.
However he may be under more restrictions and regulations.
For example, he is old enough to color in his coloring book. He selects the one he wants and the pages he shall color.
When he is old enough to attend government meetings with the King, he knows it his duty. He will hopefully do it willingly, not because he must.

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Old 03-11-2015, 11:12 PM
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'Hopefully' he will do it willingly - why should he have to do it at all - if he doesn't want to do so? That is my whole point - he won't have a choice about what he has to do - he will have to attend those meetings and won't be allowed to make his views made public either - another denial of human rights - you and I can make our views known but a monarch can't do so.
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:31 PM
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The monarchy

Hello !! =) We were talking with friends the other day about the monarchy and I have a question regarding it in particular why do you still have it ?
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:52 PM
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probably because it works - so why fix it, while it works?
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair;175753... The definition of a monarchy is: a system of state in which the highest office is fulfilled [I
by hereditary succession.
I disagree on your definition, there where monarchies in history and there are still monarchies in place where it is in the grace of the monarche to name the successor (middle east). In anchient Rome the next monarch would be adopted by his predecessor - or he would be 'lifted on the shields' - or proclamed by the members of the palace guard.

In far east are also monarchies who change the head of stated between diffrent families on a regular basis.

So - there are many diffrent varieties to how monarchies are working - as well as democracies.

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