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Old 09-16-2011, 04:41 AM
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I had to laugh when I read that headline in the morning. Just because Kate doesn't inspire the fashion world and they criticize her from time to time, doesn't mean that they HATE her. Hate is strong word, but that's how the DM works, right?

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That still does not alter the fact that a woman with little fashion knowledge and absolutely no experience is setting trends that Anna Wintour and company can only dream about and are bent out of shape that this nobody is creating fashion trends with a power that they can only dream about.

I can only imagine how p***** they are that she has the power. They don't.
Well, Anna Wintour's face isn't on every tabloid's cover these days. Kate is hyped be the media at the moment and I think that would have happened to any woman (no matter what style she has I think) William would have chosen as his wife. So yes, that attention gives her power.
Kate is a nice looking young woman with a pretty and most of the time appropriate style, that's all.
I don't know if thousands of women dress like her - I personally don't think she sets trends, but wears what is trendy. Her style isn't bad at all, but to me a bit too plain and old. She's not an inspiration for me or the young women I know (whether in GER or in Paris - I have no clue about Britain). Just my opinion and not meant to sound harsh/provocative.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:17 AM
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Well, Anna Wintour's face isn't on every tabloid's cover these days. Kate is hyped be the media at the moment and I think that would have happened to any woman (no matter what style she has I think) William would have chosen as his wife. So yes, that attention gives her power.
Kate is a nice looking young woman with a pretty and most of the time appropriate style, that's all.
That is the whole point. Catherine is a very nice young lady who dresses nicely but somewhat conservatively and any fashion house that dresses her, be it couture or high street, have people pounding down their doors and their stock flying off the racks.

She is known by many young women and, as Ann Hathaway obviously felt an affinity with her style, and was not not backward about announcing that Catherine is making 'appropriate' fun, Catherine obviously has some serious transatlantic devotees.

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I don't know if thousands of women dress like her - I personally don't think she sets trends, but wears what is trendy. Her style isn't bad at all, but to me a bit too plain and old. She's not an inspiration for me or the young women I know (whether in GER or in Paris - I have no clue about Britain). Just my opinion and not meant to sound harsh/provocative.
I definitely do not think she is in any way trendy. Not in her style or choice of dress. To be honest many fashion magazines are bemoaning the fact that she dresses safely, cautiously, boringly. But there are large numbers of women on both sides of the Atlantic who agree with her. They may not dress like her yet, but they aspire to, and therein lies her power. That does not however, make her a style icon. Yet!
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:26 AM
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I think she is indeed a fashion trender..not only because of her clothes, but because of her body, of her hair, and her way of living...because of her natural beauty...
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:36 AM
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I think she is indeed a fashion trender..not only because of her clothes, but because of her body, of her hair, and her way of living...because of her natural beauty...
Completely agree,Kate doesn't need to satisfy all the fashion trends of time,she is very nice and has a classical style,that is why she couldn't been missed from the public eyes anyway.
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Kate isn't a trendsetter I do think she follows them and stays within the style that makes her comfortable. That is a lot better then someone trying to set a trend and looking uncomfortable. Kate is often seen wearing clothes that are off the rack that makes her style more available to a wider range of people. I do think she does dress a little boring but I think that is her way off not taking attention off William and what they are doing. I wouldn't mind her revving things up from time to time and taking a risk or two. For now she is playing things very safe only time will tell if she has any real impact on fashion. So far she hasn't really been wow!
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:52 AM
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Liz Jones is a terribly insecure, bitter, desperate and pathetic woman who needs plastic surgery and botox (she writes about it every other day) in order to feel good about herself because she cant cope with naturalness what includes ageing. She is about superficiality and image only and I bet she asks herself the question "Why cant I be Kate Middleton?" while writing such pointless articles.
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Actually I think the article is more important for what it doesn't say. Namely if Catherine wears something thousands of other women want to wear the same thing. And that "same thing" is not new, cutting edge, or avant-garde, and it owes nothing to the Fashionista's who, until now, have decided what is and what is not "IN".
Agreed! I recall reading laments from various labels about how women would demand a copy of something worn by Kate, only to learn it was an item she'd had several years, or had bought on sale, and was no longer available.

Really Kate is in something of a quandary; she has to promote British fashion yet clearly doesn't want to become a clotheshorse. So far, she has done well.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:44 PM
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She hasn't done bad, that's true. The thing with that Duchess is that she's faking it. I see no real grace, no natural elegance in this girl, sorry. She can wear the best-tailored suit, stand correctly etc. but then she'll soon crack that silly smile and her middle-class mediocrity is back... Don't get me wrong, she dresses well (just well, I haven't spotted any superb appearance yet) but ordinarily 'elegant', her style just doesn't interest me anymore. My two cents.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:57 PM
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What do you mean by middle-class mediocrity?

We all see things differently, because I personally think she has a lovely smile and a natural grace/elegance.
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I don't feel at ease with this actual vision according to which women are only considered as interesting if they have a good style. Kate has her own style: she feels good in her clothes, so what? I don't like this dictat of fashion.
Women have a personnality, they can't be limited to what they wear. This is a very reductive vision of them. At the beginning I didn't care of all that was said about Catherine, but now, when I read all these articles or posts on various forums, I think that people should find another aim in their life than alqays criticizing her. If she was a bad wife, living a scandalous life, she could be criticized. Who cares if Catherine wears boots, or other pieces that don't correspond to the actual fashion?
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She hasn't done bad, that's true. The thing with that Duchess is that she's faking it. I see no real grace, no natural elegance in this girl, sorry. She can wear the best-tailored suit, stand correctly etc. but then she'll soon crack that silly smile (reminds of a half-paralysed face from a stroke or something ) and her middle-class mediocrity is back... Don't get me wrong, she dresses well (just well, I haven't spotted any superb appearance yet) but ordinarily 'elegant', her style just doesn't interest me anymore. My two cents.
Me neither. Not after the tour to the US. I think you are raising interesting points. Many of the dresses she chose during her stay in the US looked somehow cheap to me and they certainly haven't been cheap. I think that, if someone has an eye for delicate pieces, one can find pretty classy looking clothes at H&M even. So, yes, she might indeed not have a real elegant taste of her own. We have seen that for years - she pretty much dressed like every girl her age who reads fashion magazines and tries to look a bit posh. Simply ordinary as you said. Well, apart from her position and body (before the weight loss) there isn't anything special about her I'm afraid.
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Soapstar, that's the impression I get, it can't be analysed any further. It's totally fine if we see things differently, isn't it?

LovelyKate, this is a thread about the fashion choices of a certain lady among the royals. We can criticize her style here . It doesn't mean that we spend 24 hours a day talking about Kate's clothes in real life. No no no!
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I don't feel at ease with this actual vision according to which women are only considered as interesting if they have a good style. Kate has her own style: she feels good in her clothes, so what? I don't like this dictat of fashion.
Women have a personnality, they can't be limited to what they wear. This is a very reductive vision of them. At the beginning I didn't care of all that was said about Catherine, but now, when I read all these articles or posts on various forums, I think that people should find another aim in their life than alqays criticizing her. If she was a bad wife, living a scandalous life, she could be criticized. Who cares if Catherine wears boots, or other pieces that don't correspond to the actual fashion?
I actually agree 100 % with you, but we simply don't know much about her personality. She has a nice smile and thus seems nice, but so far I haven't even seen a speech by her. She does what is expected from her, smiles, shakes hands. She's the woman at HIS side and actually I don't think her position leaves that much room for personality. Could she afford a scandalous life? No. Most of the time she will say what is expected. So, what else should we judge apart from her fashion now (this may change later as she CAN find her way to bring in her own personality more)? I agree that it seems a bit superficial, but on the other hand this is a fashion forum, I love fashion and I will simply comment on how I find this or that princess' clothes.
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Soapstar, that's the impression I get, it can't be analysed any further. It's totally fine if we see things differently, isn't it?
Of course it's fine if we see things differently. Not everyone will agree on everything. Which is why some people find Kate's fashion choices boring or ordinary and others don't.Or why some in the fashion world are applauding her choices and some are not.

What I am trying to understand though, is what you mean by middle-class mediocrity?
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I know that this is a thread in wich we can criticise her style, I have already visited it, and even contributed to it too! Sometimes I like what she wears, sometimes I don't. I only reacted to the article posted a few posts before, and to some posts very critics, but not to all the posts. In fact I was thinking to another forum on which Catherine is always criticised a lot, whatever she wears... I love talking about fashion, but I only think that sometimes, it comes too far with Catherine, as if for some people she only exists to wear clothes. I just regret this attitude!
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Middle-class mediocrity seems to be a diss on the middle class. And once again this idea that Kate is somehow not good enough to be a royal because she wasn't born rich.
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I've noticed that fashion's been taking a more lady-like turn particularly in the last couple of years. I love it!!!
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There are several definitions of mediocre. I take it to mean "average." There are some who use it negatively and some, positively.

I think mediocre fits Kate, whether she had been born poor or rich.

As far as Kate's fashion goes, with a couple of exceptions --- she looks like all the people I see on a daily basis. To me, her style is neither exceptional nor abominable.
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I really like Catherines style but I´ve also worked in the fashion industry and can tell you that most fashion-people are dressing like normal average citizens,only for a fashion show or special events everyone is trying to wear it better than others :-) Of course everyone is trying to make a good impression and stand out from the crowd with their creativity but I´ve never seen anyone with crazy hair like Lady Gaga *lol* If you look at the most popular fashion designers you will be surprised that they usually wear jeans and t-shirt and no extravagant, fancy stuff! When you work on a collection you are always under a lot of pressure because usually you have very little time to design and create your fashion ideas and therefore wearing uncomfortable clothes or high heels would be a hindrance at working efficiently....The crazy outfits and makeup are the exception,but they are seen as the rule by people from outside the industry
What is shown at fashion shows and what is sold as ready to wear clothes in the shops is often quite different-most pieces are alterated so that they can be worn on the street.
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Well all I can say is that I truly DO wish that all you fashionistas (who are obviously NOT middleclass) would do the rest of us a favor by posting your pictures to show us what fashion forward people you all are and what Catherine should aspire to.

Not to mention the nasty innuendoes about class. Yes, it wanes and then it rears it's ugly head once again when the opportunity arises because of some shallow "fashion" writer's opinions.
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