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Catherine shopping in Wales wearing the same purple jumper she wore last week matched with a scarf, dark pants and hair in a bun.
Kate Middleton Shopping In North Wales Pictures
I have a VW dress and it's absolutely beautiful, so classic and nothing like Eugenie's monstrous royal wedding creation. She has a point about Kate's eyeliner, which to be frank is pretty bad. She looked so beautiful on her wedding day but her eyes were rimmed with thick black eyeliner and she was wearing way too much blusher. Sometimes her face is also really shiny. I just don't get why she wears so much make up.
As for the fashion, I'm a bit sceptical because before the engagement I always thought she dressed in a very mumsy, passé way: lots of tweed, long skirts, plain jewellery, wide jeans, brown knee-length boots, UGGs, cardis. She must have been working with personal shoppers or image consultants because since becoming engaged she's magically transformed into a human Barbie (I've heard that's Zara's nickname for her), with short skirts and huge glossy hair and a tan and brilliant white teeth and all the perfect fashion choices that were so not her style. She looks nice, but anyone can look nice with the time, money, and help that she's getting. Her everyday style is nothing special: if I could afford it I'd also wear skinny jeans, flats, and a Ralph Lauren jumper. I'd like to see her be a bit more inventive and just tone down on the make up.
Princess of Durham said:If that statement is truly the case then my opinion of Zara would plummet drastically, for certainly she would have to be aware that a statement like that would get around. Could you quote a source for that comment please?
Im not sure why the backlash at VW since many of us here agree and have discussed many times that Kate's eye make up is indeed too heavy.
Anyway I still have this tingling feeling that she had tattooed eyeliner and she draws a thicker line over it every time. You could see the close up Calgary picture in the Mail Online VW article, her usual thick eyeliner was gone (maybe she did not draw it in full here) but the thin one is still there perfectly circling around her eye - too perfect to be hand drawn I think. And this maybe the reason why she prefer to do her own make-up even on her special day - she may not want a outsider to know that she has tattooed eyeliner.
Princess of Durham said:My complaint about VW is not really about her eyeliner comments. I am guessing that she must make some nice things/designs but the majority of what I have seen is major ghastly. She irritated me originally with her put down about Catherine's style not being "mature" (clearly because she was not wearing VW designs) well .... I just have to repeat ... I hope Catherine NEVER matures to that level. The eyeliner comment was, IMO, merely an add on as it has gotten some public comments and IMO she took advantage of that which was originally about Catherine's style. IMO Catherine has a classice, BRF "style." It is NOT VW style. I just found these comments to smack of (frankly) and older, 70's designer getting her dig in. I have said this several times ... it is NOT primarly about the eyelliner, which I admit could be softer but I just don't get my knickers in twist over something like that.
ETA indeed, I hope it is not tatooed either, Ouch!
I've thought about this, and I think it's more irritating - perhaps to Westwood and to other people- to refer to the Duchess as a "fashion icon" rather than a "style icon". I see a huge difference between the two terms. Fashion (to me at least) is comprised of what's hot at the moment, starting from the top with the famous designers and their runway creations, until the look trickles down for the masses to wear. On the other hand, an individual's style refers to the near-consistent way they dress. Thus, it can be easy to predict what someone would wear. I would call Kate a "style icon" because her critics and fans alike know her style of clothing. I feel the word "icon" has really lost its exclusivity these days, I associate it closer to an icon on a computer. Like folder filled with Issa wrap dresses, the color blue, and LK Bennett shoes.for someone who cares so much about fashion it must be irritating to have a woman who dresses nicely but quite boringly lauded as a style icon.
If that statement is truly the case then my opinion of Zara would plummet drastically, for certainly she would have to be aware that a statement like that would get around. Could you quote a source for that comment please?
What a load of old coblers! Or better still . . . . Bullswool!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by princess-royal
Talbot Church: Jealousy stalks Kate 'Barbie' Middleton - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent
I've thought about this, and I think it's more irritating - perhaps to Westwood and to other people- to refer to the Duchess as a "fashion icon" rather than a "style icon". I see a huge difference between the two terms. Fashion (to me at least) is comprised of what's hot at the moment, starting from the top with the famous designers and their runway creations, until the look trickles down for the masses to wear. On the other hand, an individual's style refers to the near-consistent way they dress. Thus, it can be easy to predict what someone would wear. I would call Kate a "style icon" because her critics and fans alike know her style of clothing. I feel the word "icon" has really lost its exclusivity these days, I associate it closer to an icon on a computer. Like folder filled with Issa wrap dresses, the color blue, and LK Bennett shoes.
I would agree whole heartedly. In any event it is a no situation because if Catherine went with the "new fasthions" each season she would certainly be criticized for that. I would much rather see her looking elegant and dignified and as you said tasteful.Personally, I stick to what's stylish and looks good on me rather than what's fashionable because it's "in" for that season and everyone's wearing it, regardless of whether it looks good on them or not. If Kate's philosophy is to gravitate to a look that's tasteful, elegant and suits her, then she is indeed stylish and not fashionable.
Super Baroness said:I've thought about this, and I think it's more irritating - perhaps to Westwood and to other people- to refer to the Duchess as a "fashion icon" rather than a "style icon". I see a huge difference between the two terms. Fashion (to me at least) is comprised of what's hot at the moment, starting from the top with the famous designers and their runway creations, until the look trickles down for the masses to wear. On the other hand, an individual's style refers to the near-consistent way they dress. Thus, it can be easy to predict what someone would wear. I would call Kate a "style icon" because her critics and fans alike know her style of clothing. I feel the word "icon" has really lost its exclusivity these days, I associate it closer to an icon on a computer. Like folder filled with Issa wrap dresses, the color blue, and LK Bennett shoes.
ETA, thanks for the link to that article, I do remember it now. After reading a couple of paragraphs I would have to say what I said the first time ... someone just trying to stir up trouble, IMO.
I wouldn't take too much stock in anything that comes from Talbot Church - their commentary is very sarcastic in the hopes of being humorous. And it is sometimes, I just read an article from Jan 5 that reveals that for the wedding, Charles proposed that the couple walk to the Palace while allowing time for guests to connect with their "sacred ancestors" through an aboriginal dreamsong.
I still think the use of "icon" or "iconic" has changed in recent years. I would definitely consider Coco Chanel and Grace icons, but it is very difficult to carry over what that entails in today's world. The media loves to label things and people as iconic, ground-breaking, or revolutionary, even if it seems silly by the standards of the past.She has a style, but I don't think it's iconic. It's not hard to team an Issa dress with heels (especially when you're working with personal shoppers). Coco Chanel and Grace Kelly were style icons in my view - Kate isn't. She's just someone who wears nice, minimalist clothes.
Also, I'm not suggesting that Kate wears the latest fashions. I just think it's silly to idolise her style, which isn't anything special. Everything she wears turns to gold, even if it's not that good. If Beatrice wore the same dresses as Kate there wouldn't be such a explosion of copycat looks.
I still think the use of "icon" or "iconic" has changed in recent years. I would definitely consider Coco Chanel and Grace icons, but it is very difficult to carry over what that entails in today's world. The media loves to label things and people as iconic, ground-breaking, or revolutionary, even if it seems silly by the standards of the past.
I feel there is no way anything Beatrice wears would spark a frenzy - except of course for her infamous "hat." (But I think it's just because it was too easy to make fun of it). Beatrice is nowhere near as well-known/hyped up as Kate is. That being said, I've really liked things both women have worn, and if I saw a copycat for cheap I'd buy it!
Marika86 said:The scarf that Catherine wore during the grocery shopping is Club Check Scarf by Aquascutum
I don't know if I'd describe Kate's style as iconic, if for no other reason than she hasn't really been around long enough to be an icon, but I've noticed that her style strikes a chord with many women in my demographic - late 20s or 30s, like to look well put together but don't have the time or inclination to be fashionistas, not necessarily wealthy but with some expendable income that every once in awhile gets used to buy clothes, etc. in the same price point of the things Kate wears. That is, her look is a realistic one for a relatively large group of people to copy - you don't have to be hard core into fashion to pull it off.
I think that's the point that people like Vivienne Westwood or any of these other designers who make comments about Kate's style might be missing, (I'm thinking mainly of the maturity comment, not so much the eye liner comment). Designers are surrounded by the 0.00001 percent of people who make clothing, hair and makeup an overriding priority in their lives. Which is fine, but the vast majority of women don't live and die by what Ms. Westwood, or any other designer, thinks is good or bad. Fashion isn't an intellectual exercise for most people; those who worry about whether their style is "mature" enough to wear a certain designer, for example, are probably the exception rather than the rule. Most of us just pick out something we like and can afford.