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Old 05-17-2014, 11:03 AM
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UGH!

What's with all the hand holding? Comforting each other on their wardrobe choices?
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Again what are those girls thinking? They look awful.....PB looks like she raided her grandmother's closet for that skirt and PE, well she needs help, that dress/gown does her no good at all. Given all the money that this family has, how could they let these 2 girls dress the way they do? They are in need of a stylist, somebody that really knows fashion and won't back down when they don't get their own way. They are both very pretty girls, yet they mostly look a mess when they go out.........really frustrating at times.


I thought that they had a stylist?
I remember reading that Andrew hired one for them after their disastrous outfits at the Royal Wedding.
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Evidently the stylist is no longer with them! They sooo desperately need one..and soon!
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:52 PM
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Wow! So much venom over a couple of pretty ordinary, rather than spectacular, outfits. Okay, everyone is allowed an opinion so mine is that I didn't particularly like either outfits but liked Beatrice's better than Eugenie's. (I actually loved the movement in her skirt, it was a bit of girly nonsense). But, I will never make an issue of any woman's dress size. It is shallow and mean in the extreme and rarely found with such passion on any other thread.

As to the hand-holding? Well, Cressida ventured out (in a pretty gown that was not Boho) with close friends, after a couple of weeks of media hell. If I were her I'd have probably gone to earth and stayed there until Harry had at least found another young woman to escort around and the paps were firmly fixed on them. However, she chose to get by with a little help from her friends. Good for her and good for Beatrice and Eugenie, not to mention their respective boyfriends, for being her having her back.
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:20 PM
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Wow! So much venom over a couple of pretty ordinary, rather than spectacular, outfits. Okay, everyone is allowed an opinion so mine is that I didn't particularly like either outfits but liked Beatrice's better than Eugenie's. (I actually loved the movement in her skirt, it was a bit of girly nonsense). But, I will never make an issue of any woman's dress size. It is shallow and mean in the extreme and rarely found with such passion on any other thread.

Thank you - I didn't really like the outfits but I thought the fat-shaming on someone's body size was inappropriate. Hate the outfit if you like and it was not good but not someone's weight. I wouldn't want someone to fat shame and say that about the body/weight of one of my personal family members so I am not going to say it about another young woman who has done nothing wrong but wear a dodgy outfit.

The fashion and general media spends a lot of time making women believe that their body size is wrong and I can't believe TRF is going to start going down the same path.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:00 PM
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Venom? Fat-shaming? Come on, now! This is a fashion and style thread. It's here for us to talk about what people wear and how they look. It's all about appearance. If you think Eugenie looks good in that mauve dress, that's fine, but I don't and I'm not afraid to say why. And I'm sure as hell not speaking as a woman who munches on salad leaves for lunch and drinks only water for fear of putting on an extra ounce or so. Like many women, including Eugenie & Beatrice's mother, I have had a struggle with my weight my entire adult life, and I am very aware of what styles suit me and camouflage the parts of me I don't want to emphasise. Different styles and lines can make a huge difference.

Take a look at that photo of Eugenie in that tight dress and tell me you don't see the bulges around her hips and upper arms. Be honest. She chose to wear a dress that highlights her hourglass shape and allows those bulges to show. Sarah does the same thing. That's fine. It's their right. If they have sufficient self-confidence to not squirm when they see photographs of themselves in tight, inappropriate, clothes, good for them. I think they both should choose styles and colours that suit their shape and don't emphasise their weak points. That's my opinion. I'm not saying either of them should lose weight, just that they should choose clothes with lines that elongate and slim the figure, and don't emphasise the bulges. If you want to pull the PC card and denounce me for "fat-shaming", go ahead. I'm not going to feel guilty for what I say and I'm not going to stop stating my opinion.
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Frankly, it has nothing to do with size. It has to do with taste. You can be big and beautiful and that is true, you can be skinny and look awful. They look awful and they often do. They have no taste, whomever helps them picks clothes should be fired. Have they no mirrors. It is sad, because a ton of money is being dumped on them looking dumpy. It is not necessary. They can look lovely.
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Frankly, it has nothing to do with size. It has to do with taste. You can be big and beautiful and that is true, you can be skinny and look awful. They look awful and they often do. They have no taste, whomever helps them picks clothes should be fired. Have they no mirrors. It is sad, because a ton of money is being dumped on them looking dumpy. It is not necessary. They can look lovely.
Exactly! Taste is the factor missing here, and since I fear it is inherited things may not change.

In the general scheme of things it doesn't matter, because it's far more important that they seem to be charming, sweet girls. That's far more important than appearance, but this thread is about appearance so these other factors are OT.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:50 PM
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Frankly, it has nothing to do with size. It has to do with taste. You can be big and beautiful and that is true, you can be skinny and look awful. They look awful and they often do. They have no taste, whomever helps them picks clothes should be fired. Have they no mirrors. It is sad, because a ton of money is being dumped on them looking dumpy. It is not necessary. They can look lovely.

Yes this isn't about whether anyone is fat or not, that is not the case here. It is about their taste in clothes and whether they are selecting the right clothes for their body types. I don't believe either girl has had someone come in and actually teach them about this, what colors do and don't look good, what styles to look good and what to avoid, it is sad that they mostly are such a disaster all the time given that they have access to just about anything they want in the fashion world. These aren't teenagers anymore, they are young ladies and are seen at functions with the Queen sometimes, so their parents or someone in the family needs to take them in hands and teach them what is good and isn't good. Besides from the looks on their faces lately none of them are very happy with their lives.....I think they also need a dose of the real world at times.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:53 PM
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For starters...If Eugenie's fat, then I'm going to be the next Canadian Ladies Figure Skating Champion. The girl is not fat. Having said that though, she is curvy and by now should have figured out how to dress for her body shape. We keep getting rather sad to downright awful examples in Public that Eugenie just does not know how to dress for her shape and IMO that's downright criminal as she is a genuinely very pretty young lady. For whatever reason though, we keep seeing her in clothes that look like they're at least one dress size too small for her and a wardrobe malfunction only a sneeze away. There's no reason for it either and I just do not get it!!

As for Beatrice, I've noticed the last few years she really has been getting it together style wise. That outfit the other night would have better w/a different top, but who doesn't have Fashion Moments like that from time to time!?! The first person to step forward claiming they don't and been perfectly dressed all the time, more than likely has Florida swampland for sale too.

I think Beatrice has finally got it. As for Eugenie, she's the one who really needs a Fashion Intervention of the two IMO.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:45 PM
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Will someone please introduce Beatrice and Eugenie to Gok Wan, and quickly! Beatrice has lost all that weight and would look fabulous in just about anything.......except that outfit. Why would she wear that outfit? Did she raid her mother's wardrobe? And Eugenie needs to be told that if she wants to wear bright, figure hugging clothes like that she would do well to lose a bit of weight. She also needs to allow someone else do her hair; I think she cuts it herself, too. It doesn't look she's washed it for days, either. They both look a mess and Cressida looks great. Maybe the York girls did it for a joke to make Cressie shine.
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Venom? Fat-shaming? Come on, now! This is a fashion and style thread. It's here for us to talk about what people wear and how they look. It's all about appearance. If you think Eugenie looks good in that mauve dress, that's fine, but I don't and I'm not afraid to say why. And I'm sure as hell not speaking as a woman who munches on salad leaves for lunch and drinks only water for fear of putting on an extra ounce or so. Like many women, including Eugenie & Beatrice's mother, I have had a struggle with my weight my entire adult life, and I am very aware of what styles suit me and camouflage the parts of me I don't want to emphasise. Different styles and lines can make a huge difference.

Take a look at that photo of Eugenie in that tight dress and tell me you don't see the bulges around her hips and upper arms. Be honest. She chose to wear a dress that highlights her hourglass shape and allows those bulges to show. Sarah does the same thing. That's fine. It's their right. If they have sufficient self-confidence to not squirm when they see photographs of themselves in tight, inappropriate, clothes, good for them. I think they both should choose styles and colours that suit their shape and don't emphasise their weak points. That's my opinion. I'm not saying either of them should lose weight, just that they should choose clothes with lines that elongate and slim the figure, and don't emphasise the bulges. If you want to pull the PC card and denounce me for "fat-shaming", go ahead. I'm not going to feel guilty for what I say and I'm not going to stop stating my opinion.
I called it fat-shaming as you did say she should be told she needed to lose weight to wear that dress in your original post as above. Saying a young woman (or man) should lose weight is seen as fat shaming in the media I read (I am in my late 30's and some of the media I read would be seen as pro-feminist I will admit).

I do agree though with your last post that it is about taste and choosing the clothes to fit your body type. The dress is not the best thing she has worn and I am not fond of it but I just think we should comment on the clothes and not the actual body size.

Not related to your post Roslyn as you didn't say this but I wonder why the York girls are fair game for this kind of comment whereas if people make the same weight comments about Kate or CP Mary (fat or thin) then it is rightly jumped on.
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I called it fat-shaming as you did say she should be told she needed to lose weight to wear that dress in your original post as above. Saying a young woman (or man) should lose weight is seen as fat shaming in the media I read (I am in my late 30's and some of the media I read would be seen as pro-feminist I will admit).
As I understand it, the expression tends to be used by overweight people in a defensive manner. From personal experience I can say that when one is overweight it's no bad thing to feel pressure to lose a bit of it. It works as incentive. There are many sound medical reasons to do so and I do think Eugenie would look better if she lost a bit of weight. And so would Sarah. Beatrice certainly looks better for having done so.

However my criticism of Eugenie is, and was in that post, directed to what she choose to wear and the advice she receives (or doesn't receive) about what suits her. Do you honestly think that form-fitting, hour-glass-body-shape-emphasising dress suits her? If saying that is "fat-shaming", so be it.

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Not related to your post Roslyn as you didn't say this but I wonder why the York girls are fair game for this kind of comment whereas if people make the same weight comments about Kate or CP Mary (fat or thin) then it is rightly jumped on.
Perhaps the problem is that people are jumped on for stating their honest opinions either way.
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I called it fat-shaming as you did say she should be told she needed to lose weight to wear that dress in your original post as above. Saying a young woman (or man) should lose weight is seen as fat shaming in the media I read (I am in my late 30's and some of the media I read would be seen as pro-feminist I will admit).
As I understand it, the expression tends to be used by overweight people in a defensive manner. From personal experience I can say that when one is overweight it's no bad thing to feel pressure to lose a bit of it. It works as incentive. There are many sound medical reasons to do so and I do think Eugenie would look better if she lost a bit of weight. And so would Sarah. Beatrice certainly looks better for having done so.

However my criticism of Eugenie is, and was in that post, directed to what she choose to wear and the advice she receives (or doesn't receive) about what suits her. Do you honestly think that form-fitting, hour-glass-body-shape-emphasising dress suits her? If saying that is "fat-shaming", so be it.

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Not related to your post Roslyn as you didn't say this but I wonder why the York girls are fair game for this kind of comment whereas if people make the same weight comments about Kate or CP Mary (fat or thin) then it is rightly jumped on.
Perhaps the real problem is that people are jumped on for stating their honest opinions either way.
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UGH!

What's with all the hand holding? Comforting each other on their wardrobe choices?
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