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Old 05-30-2007, 11:22 AM
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i also disagree! and i completely agree with LadyMacAlphine,. you dont like her at all, she isnt what you picture a (upcoming-maybe) princess should be or would be. so you arent going to like anything she wears, and your always going to have a problem with what she does.
Whether she's a nice person doesnt seem to come into it!
Sadly not all of us are be beautiful 98% of the time, whether we are infront of a camera or just in ordinary day life.

but thats what this site is all about :-) difference of opinion.
Thank you. While I wouldn't call her beautiful like Princess Grace, Charlene appears to be pretty in her own way. I think Albert likes athletic woman for a few reasons and one is they are more likely to understand his compassion for sports. Many woman don't and it can destroy a relationship. Part of why I stopped posting here was the constant posts of others telling you your opinion is wrong and belittling of Albert and Charlene. It gets on your nerves besides being negative all the time is a downer and life is for so many more doesn't need to be added.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:30 AM
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i also disagree! and i completely agree with LadyMacAlphine,. you dont like her at all, she isnt what you picture a (upcoming-maybe) princess should be or would be. so you arent going to like anything she wears, and your always going to have a problem with what she does.
Whether she's a nice person doesnt seem to come into it!
Sadly not all of us are be beautiful 98% of the time, whether we are infront of a camera or just in ordinary day life.

but thats what this site is all about :-) difference of opinion.
We haven't said that she isn't a nice person. She most probably is nice to everyone she meets, polite and pleasing. She most definitely is nice to her boyfriend. However being nice and having a pleasant and strong personality are two different things. And making people feel better around you or not having any effect on other people are also two different things. Also radiating light and energy or sucking energy out of other people are also two different things. We are just saying that she is nice but aloof, pleasant but not giving, self centered and not caring (this is judged by interviews and pictures).

I think we can even all agree on that she is too nice for a boyfriend who cheats on her openly, announces that he is very much SINGLE when she is not standing next to him, scoulds her for being herself, pretends hardly to know her when the attend functions together, never shows her any true affection, only kisses her hand in a fake pretentious way and constantly has this grumpy look when he is around her.

We all loved the coral colour of the dress. I don't recall seeing a single person saying they didn't. Most of us liked the dress but some thought that the bustline didn't suit her.

HOWEVER!!!!!!!
Name me one person that liked the purple dress she wore to the fashion show, please. Or more than 2% if you prefer.
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Thank you. While I wouldn't call her beautiful like Princess Grace, Charlene appears to be pretty in her own way. I think Albert likes athletic woman for a few reasons and one is they are more likely to understand his compassion for sports. Many woman don't and it can destroy a relationship. Part of why I stopped posting here was the constant posts of others telling you your opinion is wrong and belittling of Albert and Charlene. It gets on your nerves besides being negative all the time is a downer and life is for so many more doesn't need to be added.
I agree that obviously some men prefer women that have a strong, muscular athletic build. Ok, CW has trained for years, so muscles is what she has. I think she looked better in the dress she wore to the ball last year. The color & cut, shoes, her hair, make-up (imo) were not remarkable, but much more complimentary to her, I think.

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I think CW is trying with her clothes (I guess) and ok her taste is certainly not my taste at all.
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More Taste than Money

It does not take a lot to be well dressed. There used to be an article in Haper's called More Taste Than Money& it basically said that you need not have a lot to be chic& well turned out.No one has ever been negative to Miss Wittsock and the criticism is part of the occupational hazard of the postion about to be entered into.This will happen no matter what whether us or others unless Miss Wittsock does not marry an eponymous individual who also happens to be a Head of State..[I should be so lucky]But just a point that we have been holding this lovely young lady's hand for quite sometime.And I think there should be indications that it could potentially be the other way around by now.JMO
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
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It does not take a lot to be well dressed. There used to be an article in Haper's called More Taste Than Money& it basically said that you need not have a lot to be chic& well turned out.No one has ever been negative to Miss Wittsock and the criticism is part of the occupatational hazard of the postion about to be entered into.This will happen no matter what whether us or others unless Miss Wittsock does not marry an eponymous individual who also happens to be a Head of State..[I should be so lucky]But just a point that we have been holding this lovely young lady's hand for quite sometime.And I think there should be indications that it could potentially be the other way around by now.JMO
I like that statement! I do totally agree - it looks like CW is trying to scrap together enough cash to buy some good taste -- she's probably nice, but I don't think she's had the kind of long term exposure to be able to buy taste, even if she had the cash, imo. Time will tell.

Good taste, I think, can be cultivated and refined, but for sure not purchased off the store rack (I don't care if she is in Monaco hanging out with the rich famous jet set) and I think CW has little of either one, but she can develop those things over time.

But in time, who knows (yeah right).
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
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I like that statement! I do totally agree - it looks like CW is trying to scrap together enough cash to buy some good taste -- she's probably nice, but I don't think she's had the kind of long term exposure to be able to buy taste, even if she had the cash, imo.

Good taste, I think, can be cultivated and refined, but for sure not purchased off the store rack (I don't care if she is in Monaco hanging out with the rich famous jet set) and I think CW has little of either one.

But in time, who knows (yeah right).
Yes sure, let's give her another ten years. I am sure by that time she will be ready. As for PA he will be half dead by then.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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I don't compare her to Princess Grace.

Unlike others here I thought Charlene's presentation throughout the Grand Prix was dreadful. Someone needs to help her - and frankly I blame Albert that she's still awkward and, well... I don't know what. By now someone should have helped her develop her own style and presence - if for no other reason so that she doesn't embarrass herself in public. I'll grant this years photos are yards better than last years, but she's still got miles to go. If she really mattered to him, he'd help her. And it annoys me that he doesn't - at least it looks that way to me.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:31 PM
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I see your points Laura Elizabeth especially on the suggestions to have already turned up at pools etc &assisted the elderly. Thse would have been excellent opportunities to give back something.You have echoed my sentiments more articultely than I.But I cannot agree that at at thirty[30] a woman needs to polish her style if she has not developed one yet.CW comes from an affluent backround& they want for nothing so why the awkwardness?I do not blame PA on this.I put the responsibility of CW's presentation fiascos& lack of potential consideration for others on the identical individuals who race to Bunte & other tabloids to give interviews.Strange they know the whereabouts of these periodicals yet seemingly perhaps care solely about the objective, the aim. Perhaps there is one focus;one aim here to attain, to achieve the goal: Princess.It appears blatant and somewhat embarrassing by how overt it is[if that is indeed the case].And that is the negativity here and not the criticism regardless of who is to blame.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:02 PM
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I don't compare her to Princess Grace.

Unlike others here I thought Charlene's presentation throughout the Grand Prix was dreadful. Someone needs to help her - and frankly I blame Albert that she's still awkward and, well... I don't know what. By now someone should have helped her develop her own style and presence - if for no other reason so that she doesn't embarrass herself in public. I'll grant this years photos are yards better than last years, but she's still got miles to go. If she really mattered to him, he'd help her. And it annoys me that he doesn't - at least it looks that way to me.

I'm not defending Charlene - I know nothing about her, she's not the type of beauty I like (though she is pretty, imo), most of the times I don't find her dress sence attractive either.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:22 PM
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Most people are knocking the clothes she wears and it appears she is trying.
She may or she may not, I don't know. But no matter what, decency and protocol still are valid. Like being or having been a lingerie model or a porn model, is generally enough to disqualify you from ever becoming a princess. I won't mention the sickening Maldives photos as they were supposed to be "private", but for someone dating a prince, I stil think she has a poor and unappropriate, at best an unfortunate, choice of clothes. Having said that, I do have to admit that she fits right in with her future inlaws and allegedly with most of monegasque high society.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:35 PM
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I think Charlene is making an effort to dress better, but she is hung up on halter tops. She is being advertized now as a model, she needs to start acting like one.
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I stand by my opinion that she can wear about anything she wants due to her shape. She has an athletic body as Stephanie.
Miss Wittsock cannot wear anything that emphasizes "the waist" with her "androgynous" body type.Her body is not athletic but "androgynous."Athletic is a word that covers anyone and everyone with any definition in their muscles nowadays.So I ask you how can CW wear a dress with an accentuated waist?From the waist we figure out the BMI[body mass index] which great athletes work on strenuously to emphasize.The waist is integral to the athletic body & any other healthy body for that matter.
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I have to disagree with you. I'm picky and known for being very well dressed. I've liked several of Charlene's choices including this dress. How the tops fits is beside the point very few of you would like anything she wears because you don't like Charlene. I haven't seen or heard anything yet to say she isn't a nice person.
And I have to disagree with you because no well dressed woman [like Brooke Astor & the late Kitty Carlisle]would ever identify with these juvenile choices Miss Wittsock has made to date.How the top fits and the attention she paid to it is being interpreted whether we like it or not as the attention that may possibly be paid to Monaco potentially and assurances to the investors [maybe] about the stability of the neighbourhood as personified through the role of the Prince's wife.That lady might possibly be above reproach and not in need of fashion tips and assurances.
And I am not certain why conceptually "nicety " has come into play all of a sudden.It is like that other word used nowadays for everything "interesting" Because you can be the "nicest" individual in the world but you may or may not not assist by your super intendance of appearance to inspire or at least reassure the confidence of the investors.It all depends and we have yet to see.
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am i the only one who thinks its a misnomer to have charlene and style in the same sentence.

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i also wonder about Albert, he's certainly not helping her letting her go out in some of her outfits, he knows the press better than anybody, he knows how everything they do is looked at and talked about. all i know is if i love somebody i would do all i could to protect them from ridicule and malice. it's not like he can't afford to get her a stylists and buy her becoming clothes. i know people who can only afford Goodwill(a resale shop in the states) and they always are dressed classy and properly. you can't buy taste or style, it can be aquired with observation of what looks best on you and keeping with classic not "look at me" styles, but you have to be open to change and suggestions.
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Charlene's style is okay its not that good.
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charlene could get help just by reading some books on the matter of dress and grooming. and it doesnt take a lot of money to look classy.
so the next time she wears something classy i'll give her props but as of now, that hasnt happen. oh yeah.. the color coral seem to fit her but that dress is not for her because of her body type
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am i the only one who thinks its a misnomer to have charlene and style in the same sentence.

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i also wonder about Albert, he's certainly not helping her letting her go out in some of her outfits, he knows the press better than anybody, he knows how everything they do is looked at and talked about. all i know is if i love somebody i would do all i could to protect them from ridicule and malice. it's not like he can't afford to get her a stylists and buy her becoming clothes. i know people who can only afford Goodwill(a resale shop in the states) and they always are dressed classy and properly. you can't buy taste or style, it can be aquired with observation of what looks best on you and keeping with classic not "look at me" styles, but you have to be open to change and suggestions.
I think you may have several integral points there bbb.
When I think of style I immediately think of Cary Grant & there is fanatstic book out on him and his appearance entitled: Cary Grant A Celebration of Style by Richard Torregrossa foreward by no less than Giorgio Armani and afterward by Michael Kors.It takes pains to look that effortlessly elegant as Cary did and others of his time but it is not impossible.
I think Miss Wittsock possibly has yet to find the rudiments of "style" & by that I mean in the Cary Grant comparison & sense.
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You would think she can't misstep with Caroline being such a connoisseur of style. If you have the duty expert as your significant other's sister then get some advice, pay attention, etc.
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