Fredensborg Palace & Chancellory House, Fredensborg

[Daneborn]

The Queen and Prince Henrik live at Fredensborg Castle.

CP Frederik and CP Mary live in the Kancellihuset (the Chancellor's house) which is a building on the Fredensborg estate where the King used to host government meetings back in those days when the trip from Copenhagen to Fredensborg (approximately 40 km.) was considered an overnight experience.

An overview of Fredensborg. The enlarged model is showing Kancellihuset, the wing to the down right.

http://www.rikkitikki.dk/uploads/pic...ellipresse.jpg

[galatea_12]

Nice place! Loads of room for Prince Christian to play... :)

[rchat]

Originally Posted by Daneborn

The Queen and Prince Henrik live at Fredensborg Castle.
CP Frederik and CP Mary live in the Kancellihuset (the Chancellor's house) which is a building on the Fredensborg estate where the King used to host government meetings back in those days when the trip from Copenhagen to Fredensborg (approximately 40 km.) was considered an overnight experience.

An overview of Fredensborg. The enlarged model is showing Kancellihuset, the wing to the down right.
http://www.rikkitikki.dk/uploads/pic...ellipresse.jpg

Wow! What a huge estate. What do they use all those buildings for? Surely they don't actually live in all of them. The one with the tall thing on the roof (to the right) looks like it may be the resident church/chapel.
Are the buildings with the orange roofs part of the estate too?

[Tricota]

Originally Posted by rchat

Wow! What a huge estate. What do they use all those buildings for? Surely they don't actually live in all of them. The one with the tall thing on the roof (to the right) looks like it may be the resident church/chapel.
Are the buildings with the orange roofs part of the estate too?

Fredensborg is often used for statevisits and large banquets. So the place has a lot of large rooms used for that, aswell as several gueat apartments. So no, they dont live in the whole place. I dont believe the orange roofed building are part of the estate.

As for the future, as mentioned, Frederik and Mary will move into Amlienborg in 2008/2009 or whenever they are ready. I think that will be their home until they are to take over...If that happens soon, they might let the Queen stay at Fredensborg for a while, since they are younger and peraps more interested in citylife and since they also have Kancelie Huset. So maybe it will be a while before the queen and prince leaves fredensborg and perhaps moves to Marselisborg and the estate in France.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by carlota

wasn't one of their residences already restored? as far as i remember there was some criticism about a kitchen of the place where they currently live/will be living was restored, and cost lots of money. where was that kitchen? in the chancellory house or in amalienborg? i see no reason for restoring a kitchen with so much money that won't be used anymore...

I don't know exactly for which palace this kitchen was.
But in any case it will be used!
(That story of spending money on something that they will not use
was in fact one of those deliberate misinformations and halftruths of EB.)

Like the Queen (the palace of Amalienborg she is staying in was restored ~10-15 years ago)
M&F will be in Fredensborg during summertime and in Amalienborg during winter (and for formal representation reasons).
They will not give up the chancellory house until they become king and queen.
Since the Queen is only 66 that may be a very long time.

And the chancellory house did not have to be restored.
Queen Ingrid lived there until her death, it was restored for her and still in good shape when M&F moved in.
They only did a little bit of refurnishment AFAIK.
(Not sure about the kitchen, though.)

[UserDane]

Originally Posted by ricarda

And the chancellory house did not have to be restored.
Queen Ingrid lived there until her death, it was restored for her and still in good shape when M&F moved in.
They only did a little bit of refurnishment AFAIK.
(Not sure about the kitchen, though.)

There actually was a bit of restoration work done on the Kancellihuset; it was renovated for the late queen Ingrid in the early 70's so it probably needed something done. As far as I remember it had to have a new roof and some work done to the external walls. I don't know how much internal renovation there has been - probably some. It would have been paid by Frederik privately as the state only covers expenses for external renovation and repair.

[Tricota]

Originally Posted by ricarda

They will not give up the chancellory house until they become king and queen.

I guess that depends on what you mean. They will move into Amlienborg when the renovation is done, at the moment that apears to be in 2009. I can imagen however that they will still use the place untill Fredrik becomes King, at which point they will probably leave it to Megrethe and Henrik...

Originally Posted by ricarda

And the chancellory house did not have to be restored.
Queen Ingrid lived there until her death, it was restored for her and still in good shape when M&F moved in.

Actually as someone already mentioned, the renovation was indeed very much needed and very extencive. I believe the final amount for the exterier renovation came to about 20 million danish kroner. (2.7 million euros) Plus whatever was needed inside, which I am asuming was also a great deal of money.

[princess olga]

Have to say I don't understand them living in that Kancelie huset, it doesnt, for one thing, seem to offer a lot of privacy. It seems that for people walking around the premises of the palace, they can easily look into that huset. Also, it really lacks, well, gezelligheid, as the Dutch would say, or, human cosyness. There are no trees next to that building, I don't see a private yard, and it seems lonely there for a young family. Not cosy, not as nice as Joachim's place. Square meters aren't everything! This palace lacks something, warmth. I wouldn't want to live there if you paid me.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by princess olga

Have to say I don't understand them living in that Kancelie huset, it doesnt, for one thing, seem to offer a lot of privacy. It seems that for people walking around the premises of the palace, they can easily look into that huset. Also, it really lacks, well, gezelligheid, as the Dutch would say, or, human cosyness. There are no trees next to that building, I don't see a private yard, and it seems lonely there for a young family. Not cosy, not as nice as Joachim's place. Square meters aren't everything! This palace lacks something, warmth. I wouldn't want to live there if you paid me.

The Chancellory House is where the late Queen Ingrid lived, and she and Frederik were very close. I am sure there is plenty of warmth and coziness on the inside, where it matters.

[UserDane]

Originally Posted by princess olga

Have to say I don't understand them living in that Kancelie huset, it doesnt, for one thing, seem to offer a lot of privacy. It seems that for people walking around the premises of the palace, they can easily look into that huset. Also, it really lacks, well, gezelligheid, as the Dutch would say, or, human cosyness. There are no trees next to that building, I don't see a private yard, and it seems lonely there for a young family. Not cosy, not as nice as Joachim's place. Square meters aren't everything! This palace lacks something, warmth. I wouldn't want to live there if you paid me.

I was there with my 9 year old daughter and her friend as late as last Sunday - and I can assure you that the place has privacy. There's a soldier on guard and you cannot follow the path that go up close to the house - you'll have to remain close to the palace proper.

Kancellihuset is not a palace. It's original purpose was to house ministers and people working at the court. Now it is a very nice and spacious building turned into a very cosy home. And yes, there are trees (try looking at the last pic here http://www.kongper.dk/arving.htm) and I bet there is a private garden as well. Should they feel the need for more trees they are practically living in the midst of a park/wood so there's plenty to go around.

When you stand there looking at Kancellihuset it appears very warm and appealing and I can well understand why they have chosen to live there. The surroundings are really gorgeous as well.

I'd LOVE to live there - even if I wasn't paid for it

[biboquinhas]

It seams to be much smaller than a Palace but much more warm and cosy than a big Palace. This house seams to be like a normal big house!

[ldt20]

Here is an aerial view of Fredensborg Palace from Google where the Crown Princes live.

They actually live in the Chancellory House which I believe is the structure on the right with a black roof.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en...21501&t=h&om=1

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by ldt20

Here is an aerial view of Fredensborg Palace from Google where the Crown Princes live.

They actually live in the Chancellory House which I believe is the structure on the right with a black roof.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en...21501&t=h&om=1

I think you are right. Question though: I seem to remember the place has some sort of moat and draw bridge: I saw them walk over it when Mary and Christian came back from the hospital right after his birth. Am I wrong? Which bridge did they walk over then?

[ldt20]

I think it was just a road. From those pictures you mention, it seems the palace is on a hill.

Originally Posted by princess olga

I think you are right. Question though: I seem to remember the place has some sort of moat and draw bridge: I saw them walk over it when Mary and Christian came back from the hospital right after his birth. Am I wrong? Which bridge did they walk over then?

[Xeara]

Can someone please explain Fredensborg Palace to me?

I would like to know, when Mary and Frederik came home with both Christian and Lillepigen they walked up a ramp/bridge/overpass (?) that had red fences on either side...but when I looked at the aerial view of Fredensborg...I couldn't see where exactly that entry point is...unless it is out of shot?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...edensborgb.jpg

And on DRW they said the chapel that Lillepigen will be christened in is beside the main building of Fredensborg...so that building to the right of the green roofed building is the chapel? And they also said Chancellory House, where Mary, Frederik and Christian live at the moment is beside that...so I assume it is that long building to the right of chapel forming an L shape?

And if I look down the right hand side of the photo assuming that is Chancellory house, I still can't see the red fence or that familiar scene of both Christian and Lillepige's arrival home...Has anyone got a better photo with better perspective or am I totally looking in the wrong place?

And lastly, what are all those red roofed houses in the foreground? Are they employee residences or something?

Sorry about all the questions...but royal residences fascinate me with their vastness, history...

[LadyK]

What I actually understand: The castle is in the center, with the green roof.
The Chapel is in the right center, with the bell tower/clock tower above it.
My understanding was that the Chancellory House is the building that sticks out on the right side, with the cement below it, and the big bushes above it. I think I recognize the bushes from their presentation of the Lillepigen.
Am I right?

[Xeara]

LadyK, I think you are right...I see the little red fence/barrier ever so slightly in that little section of the T...and that is probably where that arched tunnel comes in...leading in to the main compound...Thank you...but more pictures are welcome

[JessRulz]

Hi Xeara, Chancellory House is the long building on the right, next to the orange-roofed houses.
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3...nsborgbog9.jpg

And here's a better view of Chancellory House in an overview of Fredensborg Palace:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4747/e2adf326zz4.jpg
In this photo you can clearly see the pool of Chancellory House, which is directly below the pool

I don't know where the chapel definately is, but I think it might be the bell tower building next to the actual palace

[ricarda]

Yes, the building with the tower is the chapel.
Right across the lawn, on the opposite of Chancellery House.

[biboquinhas]

So the Chancellery house is the one with the pool?