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Old 08-12-2014, 06:36 AM
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Oh yes , this I have noticed , Prince William is the only one who gets the privilege of picking any home he chooses anywhere he wants and at any time, he is coming off as spoilt atm . Not even charles was given this much freedom , hold on .....not even the queens own children were given so much leeway as william and kate get in regards to their homes and lifestyle.
What are you on about? Charles, Andrew, Edward were all given potential choices in relation to their homes. How does it bother us if the Queen chooses to give William a home on the Sandringham estate? It is her privately owned and she can do pretty much what she wants. In addition to the apartment at KP, Charles had the Duchy purchase Highgrove for him. Andrew's purchase and development of Sunninghill was funded by HM. He was subsequently provided with Royal Lodge. Edward got Bagshot. Gatcombe was bought for Anne.

As regards the cottage at Birkhall / Balmoral, it was given to William by QEQM when he was studying at St Andrews. I have not read about William seeking a larger property on the Balmoral estate, but even if he did, I suspect the family has outgrown the cottage a student William needed. How the RF allocate privately owned properties really ought not to bother us, unless we have specifically decided that we want to criticise!
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:42 AM
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Sorry but the article doesn't state the entire wiring was dangerous.

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"when Lord Snowdon was later advised that an electric socket he’d ordered for his bathroom was ‘extremely dangerous’, the warning was brushed aside".

So basically, the wiring wasn't just for new technology but for a new age.

I am sure that over the next few years we will see exactly how much time the Cambridges spend there and then moan if necessary.
Lord Snowdon studied architecture. The work was mostly done by contractors. The article only states the socket in his bathroom not all the wiring was dangerous. The socket is easily replaced and was probably later replaced. You do not need to tear the wall to replace the socket.

The charity used Apartment 1A and it held public events. If it was dangerous, then the public would not have been allowed into the building.

The rewiring was for modern technology.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:47 AM
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I've yet to see a grandparent that didn't want to do extras for their grandchildren. Don't care if it's a queen or a bricklayer. No telling what the Queen has done for all her grandchildren that we simply don't know about because the press doesn't know or it's not something highly visible like a property.

Past that most all of it's all going to be William's someday anyway. Who cares if he gets is now or in 40 years?


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Old 08-12-2014, 06:48 AM
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Sorry but the article doesn't state the entire wiring was dangerous.



Lord Snowdon studied architecture. The work was mostly done by contractors. The article only states the socket in his bathroom not all the wiring was dangerous. The socket is easily replaced and was probably later replaced. You do not need to tear the wall to replace the socket.

The charity used Apartment 1A and it held public events. If it was dangerous, then the public would not have been allowed into the building.

The rewiring was for modern technology.
Just so that there is complete clarity, might you actually be suggesting that an apartment last refurbished c50 years ago does not need to have extensive work done to it?
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:58 AM
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And!?!
The roof of Windsor only cost £900,000.
The asbestos removal in BP cost £800,000.

Apartment 1A is only a portion of the KP and it cost £4,500,000.

Why did it cost so much more to fix a section of Kensington Palace?

How much repairs could have been completed on Buckingham Palace or Windsor if that money had been used on them rather on an now mostly abandoned townhome.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:01 AM
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Fortunately we are spared that particular atrocity !
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:05 AM
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BP was last remodeled in 1948/49.

Apartment 1A was remodeled 1963 and we do not know if Margaret or Lord Snowdon had any addition upgrades.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:10 AM
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Non Uk residents who dont understand British Standards used for building, electrical and gas installations/maintenance

since 1960s there are now higher and safer standards with regards to building works (I know this from personal experience) electricity and gas within private residences. Rewiring isa particular problem because of fire risk.

Forward looking people would think that if renovations are required for a building then you would future - proof. This would be to reduce to need to upgrade within 15-20 yrs. Boy, would we all be hacked off if further work was needed within that time.

Asbestos has to be removed, especially if it is damaged because of the dust that is created.

Kensington Palace also houses the Cambridges team. whereas we might have preferred William and Catherine to continue to use carrier pigeon, the media team needs to use modern technology; for all we know they might need to be on a network to link with other teams at BP and CH. Emphasis on WE dont know.

So the building is safer; reduction of future risks; future proofing (IMO); meets requirements for comms team. That makes sense to me.

If Historic Royal Palaces had undertaken their full responsibilities a large amount of this work would have been done yrs ago. The reason that it was no longer being used for offices highlights the fact that it wasn't up to scratch.

These 2 have been accused of extravagance. They have never struck me as extravagant people, esp Catherine. None of the infrastructure building works is down to them. This would have been determine by experts including those responsible for the building.

as for the internal works, the source of these stories is the DM, picked up and copied by many outlets. none of us know if any of it is true.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:14 AM
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The roof of Windsor only cost £900,000.
The asbestos removal in BP cost £800,000.

Apartment 1A is only a portion of the KP and it cost £4,500,000.

Why did it cost so much more to fix a section of Kensington Palace?

How much repairs could have been completed on Buckingham Palace or Windsor if that money had been used on them rather on an now mostly abandoned townhome.
> Was £900k spent to replace the entire roof at Windsor? Not sure where you get your information from and how accurate it is, but I highly doubt that for £900k you can replace the entire roof at Windsor.

> We have no idea how much asbestos was removed from BP relative to KP. also, BP may have had bits of asbestos removed over the years.

> The Queen decide where the repairs and renewals budget is spent. Criticise her judgement if you would like to.

> "Abandoned townhome": Where did you work that up from? KP continues to be the Cambridhe's London home. It will continue to be used for a long time, potentially till William becomes King. I suspect they will use it 2-3 times a month even when based at Anmer.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:15 AM
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One thing we have to keep in mind too is that William and Kate were not given the homes. They were given the use of the homes.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:15 AM
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BP was last remodeled in 1948/49.

Apartment 1A was remodeled 1963 and we do not know if Margaret or Lord Snowdon had any addition upgrades.
Whist BP may have had the private apartments remodelled in 1948/49, lets not forget that for c63 years the very same occupants live there. I suspect the next major repairs to the private apartments there will bbe when C&C move in.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:18 AM
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It was not "the roof" of Windsor Castle or "the roof" of Buckingham Palace. I can assure you the entire roof of both buildings wil cost millions. It were repairs to the roofs of both buildings.

The difference with both named residences and Kensington Palace is that the last one was alywas "the scrapheap of the royal family" and never a real royal residence. Many appartments have been empty for decades. Others were used as a pièd-à-terre and not as a permanent residence. That is a whole difference with the first two named residences which are full continue in use.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:20 AM
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William may inherit all some or none of the Queen's property.

Highgrove has 4 family bedrooms.
Anmer has 10 family bedrooms.

Clarence House was renovated as offices/public rooms on 2 floors and family residences on 2 floors. It was the residence for 4 adults, later 5 adults.
KP Apt 1A was renovated as 4 floors for private family residence for 2 adults and 1 child.

Anmer Hall was occupied.
Apt 1A was occupied.

Clarence House was vacant.
Highgrove was for sale.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:24 AM
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Oh yes , this I have noticed , Prince William is the only one who gets the privilege of picking any home he chooses anywhere he wants and at any time, he is coming off as spoilt atm . Not even charles was given this much freedom , hold on .....not even the queens own children were given so much leeway as william and kate get in regards to their homes and lifestyle.
Heu... the Queen has given all her children fantastic estates. Gatcombe Park (Anne), Royal Lodge (Andrew), Bagshot Park (Andrew) are really grand mansions.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:25 AM
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RE : Buckingham Palace -
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I suspect the next major repairs to the private apartments there will be when C&C move in.
I hope Charles and Camilla will unertake a redecoration and refurbishment of the State and semi-state apartments too.. The wall hangings and curtains [in particular] look very 'tired' and the colours are badly faded [especially in the rooms on the West Front].They haven't been touched since 1952 !
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:36 AM
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From a ground floor plan of Clarence House which includes the rooms & the sizes of the rooms.

Clarence House is not large by royal standards.

There are 3 rooms that face the Mall: The Garden room, the Lancaster room and the Morning room plus the main hall. (The width of the building.)

There are 3 rooms on Stable Yard road: The Morning room, the Library and the Dining Room. (The length of the building.)

Multiple the length & the width.
Subtract the large "L" shaped open area in the center of the building.
See a plan from one of the floors (there is a souterrain, the main floor and three floors). It is really a pretty large city mansion.

Floor plan: http://fixr.wpmedia.s3.amazonaws.com...rence-plan.jpg

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Old 08-12-2014, 07:39 AM
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Since none of us were there to inspect the condition of the apartment (and I doubt many here are electricians/plumbers etc) then we aren't going to know why and really...if it needed to be done then it needed to be done. I am sure there were private monies involved in the renovations as required.


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Old 08-12-2014, 07:42 AM
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The Queen's children received country estates.

William is the Queen's grandson.

Peter Philips lives in a cottage on his mother's estate. He has 2 children.
Zara Philips lives in a cottage on her mother's estate. She has 1 child.

Princess Beatrice and her sister shared a flat in St. James' Palace which their father is said to pay the rent.

None of the Queen's adult grandchildren were given a London townhome and a country estates.

Infact none of the Queen children received both a London townhome and a country estate, except for the heir. William is not the heir and until he is the heir he need to live like his cousins.

If Peter & his wife along with 2 children can live in a cottage then William and his wife and 1 child can live in a cottage on his father's estate.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:44 AM
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William may inherit all some or none of the Queen's property.

Highgrove has 4 family bedrooms.
Anmer has 10 family bedrooms.

Clarence House was renovated as offices/public rooms on 2 floors and family residences on 2 floors. It was the residence for 4 adults, later 5 adults.
KP Apt 1A was renovated as 4 floors for private family residence for 2 adults and 1 child.

Anmer Hall was occupied.
Apt 1A was occupied.

Clarence House was vacant.
Highgrove was for sale.
> So what if Anmer was occupied? The Queen terminated the lease nobn her property, as she desired.
> KP Apt 1A is still the same size as it was when Margaret lived there.
> Highgrove is quite a large property, and has had several additions to it. Also, how is the size of Highgrove relevant at all?
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:47 AM
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The Queen has 1 grandchild who is the future heir. Of course he is going to need a different housing situation than the other grandchildren. That is not to say the Queen has not done things for the other ones, we are not privy to monies given or many other things.

None of the Queen's grandchildren are living in anything near middle class let alone poverty. This socialistic idea that everyone has to live the same is silly.


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