The Royal Household, Courtiers, Advisers and Attendants 1: Ending Sep 2022


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When the Queen’s private secretary, Sir Christopher Geidt, was awarded his second knighthood in 2014 the citation read for ‘a new approach to constitutional matters... [and] the preparation for the transition to a change of reign’. (my bolding)

Christopher Geidt is a KCVO personally from the Queen but his second knighthood is the Order of the Bath from the government with the above citation.

It was just another indication that preparations are always ongoing behind the scenes and even though we don't always see it, the government and the BRF is on top of things.

It bolsters the statement from Alastair Martin, Secretary and Keeper of the Records for The Duchy of Cornwall who said the process of involving William with the Duchy has been ongoing because they never know when the succession will happen.
 
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As William has been attending meetings of the Duchy of Cornwall - at least one per year - for the years that I have been keeping records I am surprised and anyone would suggest that they aren't on top of things.


There have been reports since at least the 1980s that the Earl Marshal has the plans for the next coronation underway - just part of him doing his job. I suspect that they are reviewed regularly - at least every time they have to be updated to a new computer system e.g. from Windows 8 to Windows 10 (assuming that is the system they are using and I have no idea of course). They also regularly review the funeral arrangements for The Queen, Philip and Charles and in the past the Queen Mum, whose model was quickly put into place 18 years ago this week for Diana.


The Earl Marshal knows his job as his family have been doing it since the Middle Ages so no doubt he has no only the final plans but even draft plans for coronations and other royal events going back that far in the family's records.
 
Robin Ludlow, who has died aged 84, was press secretary to the Queen from 1972 to 1973; a complete outsider to Palace life, he considered that he had been brought in as a moderniser but soon found that in the early 1970s the Palace was not yet ready for the changes he proposed.

He was headhunted for the Palace job from the world of advertising in 1971, interviewed by William Heseltine and Sir Michael Adeane, and after a glass of sherry with the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh, he was offered the job.

During his brief tenure, he oversaw the press for the Queen and her immediate family. He dealt with the key correspondents from the BBC, Thames TV and the Press Association and made a point of calling on the senior newspaper editors.
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Read more: Robin Ludlow, royal press secretary - obituary - Telegraph
 
'Queen is best leader I’ve worked for' Her Majesty lauded as 'humble' and 'caring' boss | Royal | News | Daily Express

GALLERY: Who's who in the Queen's trusted team? - Photo 1

Prince Charles brings in new PR man writes EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE | Daily Mail Online

Royal Household's deputy property boss faces jail after taking over £75,000 in bribes | Daily Mail Online

The Queen is looking for someone to do a very personal job for her - Mirror Online

Gardener at Buckingham Palace would have cost of living in docked from their salary * | Daily Mail Online

The Queen advertises for new £18,000-a-year butler | Daily Mail Online

"The Queen has advertised for a new Butler but has warned applicants 'the learning curve will be steep.'The successful trainee butler will be based at Buckingham Palace and start on £18,850-a-year, provided they can pass an entrance exam."

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"The Queen’s most senior courtier was forced out in a power struggle between Buckingham Palace and the Prince of Wales, The Times can reveal. Sir Christopher Geidt, the Queen’s private secretary, left his post in July after complaints by the prince and his brother, the Duke of York, sources said."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...idt-ousted-in-palace-power-struggle-7bfs632z2

Rare joint statement from the three Royal Households

Buckingham Palace, Clarence House & Kensington Palace release rare joint statement – Royal Central
 
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Interesting Charles and Camilla visited the Balkans for 6 days and travel with 4 staff members.

Harry traveled to Nepal for 4 days with 3 staff.
 
That's seem kind of low for C&C. Doesn't they usually have a doctor along with them plus a hairdresser for Cam? The Queen took her doctor along when she & Phlip went to Italy couple of years ago. Hairdresser is not charged to govt tab probably the same with Doctor.

They each have a private secretary plus the press people. Harry would have his private sec plus 2 press people probably Jason & Nick.


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Charles has a huge amount of staff. Somewhere around 160 people.
 
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That's seem kind of low for C&C. Doesn't they usually have a doctor along with them plus a hairdresser for Cam?
They each have a private secretary plus the press people. Harry would have his private sec plus 2 press people probably Jason & Nick.
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These were the people listed in the CC. Some it was the same type for C&C as Harry.

We will have to see how many people accompany William and Catherine to India.
 
For the Australian trip, the CC read:

KENSINGTON PALACE:
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge this evening departed from Heathrow Airport, London, for New Zealand and Australia.
Sir David Manning, Mr. Miguel Head, Miss Rebecca Deacon and Dr. Edward Perkins are in attendance
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Since there were definitely more than four people on that tour, I'd suggest that the CC is not a reliable indicator of how many people accompany the royals on tour.
 
The CC doesn't list everyone one the tour. The entry for the Cambridges return from Australia in 2014 list only Sir David Manning, Mr Miguel Head, Miss Rebecca Deacon and Dr Edward Perkins. We know there were other people on the tour such as Press Guy Nick, 2 PAs including Natasha Archer, Amanda Cook hairdresser and Nanny Maria. However, none of those other people were mentioned in the CC. It's just the 2 Private Sec, Communication head and foreign policy adviser.




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As an example, the PoW and DoC took 22 people with them on their March 2006 trip to the Middle East and India. The CC listed 6 of them.

Right now, the press is fixated on W&K -- I'd venture a guess that we're not going to find out how many people C&C and H took on their recent tours unless it can be used to make W&K look bad, just because that's the dominant narrative now.
 
Kensington Palace usually let it be known the number of staff accompany them on the tour.
 
I've seen a list in Hello but am having probs loading it. I'm sure it's on the Internet.

Key issue is 4 press officers but the reason is that they need a couple with them, and a couple go ahead to prepare. The press do the same - some stay and others go ahead. It is practical and normal but much depends on how the press report it.

There is a lot going on, with a lot of travel over a short period. To me it makes sense.
 
Victoria Murphy said 11 people on Twitter. 4 are press officers, 1 hairdresser, David Manning, Rebecca & Miguel. That's 8. So the last three -Natasha, Fiji Orderly guy, another PA or an equerry perhaps?


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I can tell a merger is happening with the new royal family website.
 
Mrs Michael Wall, DCVO, sometime Assistant Press Secretary, & Extra Woman of the Bedchamber to HM Queen Elizabeth II, died at Sutton Scotney, near Winchester, 28 Oct, 2016.

She was born (Alice) Anne Hawkins, 31 Mar, 1928, a daughter of Admiral Sir Geoffrey Hawkins, by his wife the former Lady Margaret Ida Montagu Douglas Scott, a daughter of the 7th Duke of Bucceluch & Queensberry.


Anne's aunt was HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, &c.
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Her Brittanic Majesty is a frugal boss, I am afraid to say. In the Netherlands a simple starting lackey already earns 2.500 Euro a month. With 8% holiday payment and 8,3% end of the year payment this results in a year salary of almost 35.000 Euro. (Extra salary for working in evening or night shifts, weekends, etc. not included). Almost the double of that butler at Buckingham Palace!

Maybe the British butler has accomodation, but is that favourable? Living under the boss' roof and no possibility to purchase an own independent house with that "hand out" wchich is called "salary"?
 
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The advantage of living at BP is the ability to save and then buy a property outright. I had friends who did exactly that - they worked at BP in the 1950s and 1960s. When my friend got pregnant she had to resign and they were able to buy a flat in London without a mortgage from their saved up salary from working at BP and living in the centre of London.

If you don't have to pay the utility bills and have subsidised housing and food you should be able to save if you want to do so.

This is also a trainee position so there would be pay increases as skills develop and when they have worked at BP for some years can see their way into some very well-paying jobs in the industry.
 
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Her Brittanic Majesty is a frugal boss, I am afraid to say. In the Netherlands a simple starting lackey already earns 2.500 Euro a month. With 8% holiday payment and 8,3% end of the year payment this results in a year salary of almost 35.000 Euro. (Extra salary for working in evening or night shifts, weekends, etc. not included). Almost the double of that butler at Buckingham Palace!

Maybe the British butler has accomodation, but is that favourable? Living under the boss' roof and no possibility to purchase an own independent house with that "hand out" wchich is called "salary"?
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Surely if people dont find the economic terms adequate, they dont have to apply for the job.
 
I have looked it up, assuming the new butler has to work some 40 hours a week, the Queen pays the butler the UK minimum wage plus a little bonus (I think the end-of-the-year bonus). The article stated that when the butler makes use of accomodation, this will be calculated in his income (with other words: no extras, he simply has to pay for living under his boss' roof).
 
That however is heavily subsidised compared to living costs in Central London.
 
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Queen picks new equerry as Philip's retirement looms* | Daily Mail Online
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1. The DF and their stupidness:
Twumasi-Ankrah's royal career so far has included acting as escort commander at the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall's wedding in 2011, as well as commanding the Blues and Royals at the Queen's birthday parade - but his new role will mean he could spend more time at Her Majesty's side than even her husband, the Duke of Edinburgh.
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2. I read the original Sunday Times article by Roya Nikkhah rigth after it come out at 12:01am - and here are some of it:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/queen-picks-first-black-equerry-dg3l7zjmt
The Queen has chosen a Ghanaian-born officer from the Household Cavalry to fill one of the most important roles in the royal household. Her next equerry will be Major Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah, an Afghanistan war veteran known as TA to his friends.

It is thought to be the first time any member of the royal family has appointed a black equerry, a role that requires immense discretion but in the past has also had a brush with scandal.
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It is understood that he is in a transition phase with the current equerry Wing Commander Sam Fletcher and will start in the role later this year.
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The Queen is understood to have personally selected Twumasi-Ankrah from several candidates. His duties will include close attendance to the Queen in public, personally assisting her with official engagements and welcoming high-profile guests to royal residences.
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3. Wing Commander Sam Fletcher (which seems to be a very nice guy) was appointed in 2015, and other recent equerries has lasted for 2/3 years, so Twumasi-Ankrah will likely stay in that position until 2019/2020.
 
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I thought Queen Victoria also had Equerries from non-European parts of her immense realm?
 
I think its treated like a military posting these days and most of those last 3 years.
 
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