The Royal Family Order (RFO) and other Royal Orders and Decorations

[Warren]

Originally Posted by GillW

Until Majesty get around to writing that article, you can read all about it - some fascinating stuff - at Wikipedia:Royal Family Order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmm... Wikipedia lists Zara Phillips as having the RFO. Unlikely?

[banda_windsor]

Originally Posted by Warren

Hmm... Wikipedia lists Zara Phillips as having the RFO. Unlikely?

i think it might be true. we just haven't seen it probably.

Well, i wonder when Camila will receive the RFO. I mean, it would be very funny if she didn't get that. Because the RFO is a sign that the Queen acknowladge the reciepient of the order as her family. If Camila didn't get one, how ridiculous it would be. Although, the Duchess of York didn't recieve the RFO also.

[msleiman]

In another thread it said that Zara had the Queen's family order. Does anyone have a picture of her wearing it? Also do the York girls have the order? Please post any pictures any of the ladies wearing this order!

[BeatrixFan]

Not sure about Zara actually but I'm pretty sure that we'll be seeing the York girls get it in the near future as well as the Duchess of Cornwall (which could be next week when the Emperor and Empress of Japan visit).

[msleiman]

Thanks, can not wait to see the pictures from the visit!

[BeatrixFan]

Although having said that it looks like the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall are in Scotland when the dinner is held at Buckingham Palace so I don't think we will see any new family orders on display.

[yvr girl]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

Not sure about Zara actually but I'm pretty sure that we'll be seeing the York girls get it in the near future as well as the Duchess of Cornwall (which could be next week when the Emperor and Empress of Japan visit).

I wouldn't expect them to receive them until they are done with school, and working for the 'firm'.

I've read that Zara has it as well, but I've never seen her with one.

[Warren]

Wikipedia states that Zara Phillips has the Royal Family Order, but this is open to doubt.

[HMQueenElizabethII]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

Although having said that it looks like the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall are in Scotland when the dinner is held at Buckingham Palace so I don't think we will see any new family orders on display.

At the Concert/Dinner in America in January, when the Duchess wore her new necklace, the Prince of Wales put on alot of Orders, while the Duchess was without the Orders, so i'm doubt we would see any Orders soon with the Duchess of Cornwall.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Would Zara wear her RFO on her dress at the Trooping events?
It is odd that Sarah, Duchess of York never received one. I always thought the Queen loved her so much, at least in the early years of the marriage.

As sirhon said, at least it is good that Diana had the RFO and the Dutch order, because she certainly deserved them at least. She earned them through much dedication and hard work.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Would Zara wear her RFO on her dress at the Trooping events? .

No. The Order is only worn at State functions, generally tiara events.

[BeatrixFan]

She has been with the firm for two years though and she is the future Queen. The Emperor of Japan gave Crown Princess Victoria the Order of the Chrysanthemum on his visit to Sweden and I thought that maybe Camilla would get the same at the dinner and would be sporting the sash, badge and the Royal Family Order but I suppose we'll have to wait a little longer.

[yvr girl]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

She has been with the firm for two years though and she is the future Queen. The Emperor of Japan gave Crown Princess Victoria the Order of the Chrysanthemum on his visit to Sweden and I thought that maybe Camilla would get the same at the dinner and would be sporting the sash, badge and the Royal Family Order but I suppose we'll have to wait a little longer.

And she and Andrew were together for about 6 years before they parted ways.

[BeatrixFan]

Yes but Fergie wasn't married to the Prince of Wales and wasn't polishing her tiara for a certain ceremony at Wesminster Abbey.

[bct88]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

She has been with the firm for two years though and she is the future Queen. The Emperor of Japan gave Crown Princess Victoria the Order of the Chrysanthemum on his visit to Sweden and I thought that maybe Camilla would get the same at the dinner and would be sporting the sash, badge and the Royal Family Order but I suppose we'll have to wait a little longer.

I doubt that Camilla will get the Order of the Chrysanthemum. Apart from the monarch, the heir receives it, and not the spouse of the heir. No female monarch has this order, except for Elizabeth, Beatrix, and Margrethe. As a consort, and other female members of royal families, the Order of the Precious Crown is bestowed, so if Camilla is to receive any Japanese order, she would receive the Order of the Precious Crown.

[wbenson]

I don't believe the upcoming visit is a true state visit, so I doubt any orders would be exchanged.

[BeatrixFan]

Well, the visit to Estonia wasn't a state one but orders were exchanged.

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by HMQueenElizabethII

At the Concert/Dinner in America in January, when the Duchess wore her new necklace, the Prince of Wales put on alot of Orders, while the Duchess was without the Orders, so i'm doubt we would see any Orders soon with the Duchess of Cornwall.

That has to do with the dresscode. When the gentleman wears cravate noire (black tie), the usance is not to wear decorations.

The British (and the British Commonwealth) however, has a custom that gentlemen can wear small decorations in combination with a smoking. No sash, no breast star: just small decorations. When the Prince of Orange visited Australia last year, he wore small decorations on his black tie. This was the very first time he ever did so, as on the Continent never decorations are worn with black tie. See this picture. So the Prince adapted to the British / Britis Commonwealth custom.

You see the Princess of Orange wore no decorations. This is in line with the general dresscode: ladies do not wear decorations during black tie events. Not on the Continent and also not in Britain or the British Commonwealth. So no matter how many decorations a royal lady has: during a black tie event she will not wear any.

[RoyalProtocol]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

You see the Princess of Orange wore no decorations. This is in line with the general dresscode: ladies do not wear decorations during black tie events. Not on the Continent and also not in Britain or the British Commonwealth. So no matter how many decorations a royal lady has: during a black tie event she will not wear any.

This is not quite true, Her Majesty The Queen often wears the star of an order with black tie, though no other decorations are put on, for examples see photos of dinner on board Britannia with President Regan in the 1980s and lots of other official black tie functions, CHOGM dinners are also a good example.

[Von Schlesian]

Originally Posted by RoyalProtocol

This is not quite true, Her Majesty The Queen often wears the star of an order with black tie, though no other decorations are put on, for examples see photos of dinner on board Britannia with President Regan in the 1980s and lots of other official black tie functions, CHOGM dinners are also a good example.

Not only that, but we often see HRH The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh wear the Star of the Order of the Garter and badge of the Order of Merit (suspended from miniature width neck ribband) along with court-mounted miniatures when wearing black tie.