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Old 07-13-2017, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbruno View Post
Philip and Charles received their Spanish orders in the 1980s. Harry doesn't have a British sash to wear, but, as I explained, as a Knight Commander in the RVO, he wears the badge of the order on a necklace, as he did yesterday. If he received a Commander grade in the Order of Isabella the Catholic , he should have worn the Spanish badge around his neck (which he didn't) and the Spanish star on his chest (which apparently he did). It doesn't add up.

Anne, reportedly as a Grand Cross of the Order of Isabella the Catholic, should on the other hand have worn the Spanish sash yesterday and should be wearing it today.
Normally, if you have to choose between your own country´s order and the visiting guest´s one you received an order from, you choose the FOREIGN order! So if Harry is Knight Commd of this specific spanish order and there would go no sash with, he had to wear the spanish badge around the neck and not the british one if he wanted to do it right (stars from home and the foreign star pinned both on the breast)!
There was no question about it so far and everyone did so. Why the british Royal family gets special treatment here again I don t know...

In the very old days about 100 years ago monarchs even "exchanged" their uniforms to pay respects for one another and demonstrate a mark of politeness and closeness (the german Kaiser did so with cousin "Nicky" from Russia or cousin "Georgie" from Britain!)

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Old 07-13-2017, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AnaC View Post
That's right! (Although I don't think there is a Golden Fleece specifically for the Sovereign, there are grander and more bejeweled insignia than the one he usually chooses for State Visits, including yesterday's. Unlike his wife, he didn't dress up )

He could have chosen to add the star of the Charles III order, like his father used to do with foreign orders, and like he has done in the past. But like choosing smaller and less bejeweled versions of the Golden Fleece insignia, lately he only wears the sash/collar of the foreign order without the extra star of his Spanish order.

Wikipedia mentions the Sovereign's (or Grand Master's) necklace insigna. I recognize the Dame's ribbon insignia as what QEII wore yesterday, which was visble in closeup.

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Old 07-13-2017, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AnaC View Post
Anne is wearing the Garter tonight.
She's also wearing her new order badge.

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Old 07-13-2017, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dman View Post
She's also wearing her new order badge.
Yes, we can see it very clearly this time !
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbruno View Post

And BTW, why was Harry wearing a miniature order (or whatever that was) on a visit to Westminster Abbey, which I wouldn't normally consider an order event ?
"Whatever that was" is called a "rosette", it's indeed, in a way, the miniature form of the given order.

Harry pinned it on his vest to obviously thank the Spanish Royals. In fact a Rosette (less formal than a star or a sash) can be worn outside order events. It's the case in France for the Légion d'Honneur.

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