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Old 01-21-2014, 10:08 PM
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I thought the Royal Victorian order was given for services to the Sovereign so why would Prince Michaels private secretary get it. I,m sure I saw in a previous honours list as well that Anne Frost one of the Princess' ladies in waiting got it too.
The Queen gives Royal Victorian Order for services to the Monarchy at large, meaning herself and her Royal family. Thus, courtiers and servants of members of the Royal Family, not only the Queen, are given this order as a sign of recognition of their work. For example, on the recent New Year's Honours, Stephen Joseph Towers has been awarded the Royal Victorian Medal for his service as chauffeur within the Duke of Kent’s Household.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:59 PM
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I couldn't help but to post this beautiful work of art. I know it must be heavy but I wouldn't mind seeing either Charles, William, Camilla or Catherine wearing this piece someday during the Garter service.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:17 PM
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I couldn't help but to post this beautiful work of art. I know it must be heavy but I wouldn't mind seeing either Charles, William, Camilla or Catherine wearing this piece someday during the Garter service.
Isn't this the "George" that hangs on the chain of office? The minor George on the "bottom" of the sash? Question marks cos I am checking
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I'm putting this here, as the Order of the Garter thread is under jewelry - and this is not a jewel question.
Royal Members of the garter have no limit, right? There can be only 25 knights, but can the sovereign do as they like with royal family?

And how often do in laws often count as "family" in the Order? I'm just asking - don't shoot me. The Duke of Edinburgh is a Royal Member, have there been many more?
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Te li it of 25 is for actual members. There appears to be no limit for royal members or "stranger" members.

royals members have been limited but the reaso ing behind it lies in the head of the Monarch. for example HMQ eventually gave the Garter honour to all her children, but P Margaret never got it. HMQ gave the honour to her husbandand Charles will give the Garter to Camilla and so on.

Stranger knights - will the Queen giv another to Netherlands? She should IMO. Or Luxembourg? Or is there ahidden rule it is one per country. spouses of foreign sovereignsdo not get our highest honour.

i am on an ipad so aorry for typos
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Actually George VI gave the garter to Philip the day before his wedding to Elizabeth.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:59 PM
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I'm putting this here, as the Order of the Garter thread is under jewelry - and this is not a jewel question.
Order of the Garter 2003-2014: Ceremonies and Information
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:01 PM
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I just want to apologise for the absolutely rubbish typing for my message #265 from my Ipad.

That deserves a detention, extra homework and cleaning up my room in double quick time. so sorry!
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:13 PM
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Order of the Garter

I understood that the Order consisted of The Sovereign, The Prince of Wales, no more that 24 "regular" Knights plus "Stranger or Extra" Knights and the Officers (of which there are 6 - some of whom may be members).

I think that the only restriction is on the "regular" Knights and the "extra" Knights are just that....extra. I think there are currently 15 extra or Stranger Knights (I think the more proper term)

I have seen "Royal" Knights which are members of the British Royal Family shown separately, but I think they may just be a category of Stranger Knights - i.e. not 1 of the 24 "regular" Knights.

There are currently 8 Royal Knights
D of Edinburgh
The Princess Royal
D of Kent
D of Gloucester
Pns Alexandra
D of York
E of Wessex
D of Cambridge

And 7 further foreign Royal Knights
GD Jean of Luxembourg
The Queen of Denmark
The King of Sweden
The King of Spain (Juan Carlos)
Princess (formerly Queen) of the Netherlands (Beatrix)
The Emperor of Japan
The King of Norway

As to cepe's question -

The GREATER George (as it is called) is the (often) heavily bejewelled pendant that hangs from the Collar of the Order. The LESSER George is the badge medallion that falls at the hip from the bow of the sash.


I have added a picture of HM's Lesser George (also quite bejewelled!)

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I just want to apologise for the absolutely rubbish typing for my message #265 from my Ipad.

That deserves a detention, extra homework and cleaning up my room in double quick time. so sorry!
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