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05-03-2018, 11:33 PM
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05-03-2018, 11:39 PM
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He's still going to be covering Harry's...it's not like he's being made to stay home.
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05-04-2018, 02:57 PM
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Now we are being asked to pay over £700 to stand on the grass at #WindsorCastle for #RoyalWedding2018* A first for wedding at Windsor BTW any idea whether they are providing a press centre etc as part of the professional working environment that they are happy to charge us for?
We have never had to pay at #WindsorCastle before certainly didn't for Prince Charles wedding or Earl & Countess of Wessex. it's embarrassing when I am covering European royals and am asked by my colleagues why do we have to pay when you don't and we don't even get the best shot
Via Rookie Twitter
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05-04-2018, 02:59 PM
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That's interesting. I wonder why they have to pay and wonder if KP will address this issue?
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05-04-2018, 03:02 PM
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I suggest they take this up with KP and get something sorted instead of complaining on Twitter.
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05-04-2018, 03:04 PM
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I imagine they probably have taken it up with KP.
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05-04-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudolph
Now we are being asked to pay over £700 to stand on the grass at #WindsorCastle for #RoyalWedding2018* A first for wedding at Windsor BTW any idea whether they are providing a press centre etc as part of the professional working environment that they are happy to charge us for?
We have never had to pay at #WindsorCastle before certainly didn't for Prince Charles wedding or Earl & Countess of Wessex. it's embarrassing when I am covering European royals and am asked by my colleagues why do we have to pay when you don't and we don't even get the best shot
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Apparently they also paid when they photographed William and Kate's wedding. They were just surprised it was happening in Windsor. That is an government issue. That has nothing to do with Harry and Meghan.
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05-04-2018, 03:08 PM
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From Emily Nash
To give you a flavour of the global interest in this Royal wedding 5,000 journalists are accredited, 79 international networks are involved, and 46 US affiliates.
https://mobile.twitter.com/emynash/s...42073176559616
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05-04-2018, 03:09 PM
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£700 is CHICKENFEED given the budgets of these media outlets, and the money they will make through advertising.. to use an American phrase 'suck it up, cupcake'...
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05-04-2018, 03:37 PM
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An entirely unnecessary own goal for Harry, not the first of late unfortunately.
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05-04-2018, 04:26 PM
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Apparently they also paid when they photographed William and Kate's wedding. They were just surprised it was happening in Windsor. That is an government issue. That has nothing to do with Harry and Meghan.
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The difference is though photographers had equal access to the Cambridge wedding, not so with this wedding. Photographers still upset over the arrangements
“The Royal Household is looking forward to welcoming a large number of UK and international media to Windsor Castle for the Royal Wedding of Prince Harry and Ms. Meghan Markle.” You just can’t see anything but you can still pay a Kings ransom for the privilege.
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05-04-2018, 04:31 PM
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Some of them are having quite the whine-fest on twitter.
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05-04-2018, 04:36 PM
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They can be upset over the arrangement but that is not Harry and Meghan's fault they are being charged a fee. That seemed to be the main gripe with one as he expected something different in Windsor.
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05-04-2018, 05:02 PM
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Are any of them being forced to work this event? If so, I would assume their employers would cover the cost. If they are freelancers, it might be best to skip the assignment given that they find the conditions so unfavorable.
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05-04-2018, 05:40 PM
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unnecessary own goal for Harry,
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In what way, [exactly] is this to 'be laid at his door' ?
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05-04-2018, 05:52 PM
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The fee may not be up to Harry but the media and press arrangements are.
There’s no reason to only have PA photographers given pride of place. This is the first wedding at Windsor that a fee has been charged. Photographers are saying the least you can do is give us equal access.
I know Harry is not a fan of the press and rightly so but a media pen for all agencies directly outside the chapel seems easy enough.
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05-04-2018, 05:59 PM
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In what way, [exactly] is this to 'be laid at his door' ?
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Right? I mean... seriously? How is this fee his fault. I guess it was the Cambridges fault too back in 2011. Oy.
This whining is pathetic now.
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05-04-2018, 06:15 PM
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I don’t see anyone saying the fee is Harry’s fault. But some people seem to be trying to purposely conflate things.
There was a fee for the Cambridge wedding but press and photographers were given equal access. There was a large press pen outside WA and BP for the balcony kiss.
There’s also a fee for Harry’s wedding but with much more limited access for press.
Harry has every reason to dislike the press. Photographers like Mark Cuthbert, Rookie and James Whatling, all accredited royal photographers who regularly cover royal engagements, have a legitimate concern for being left out of prime property for photos
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05-04-2018, 07:22 PM
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The fee may not be up to Harry but the media and press arrangements are.
There’s no reason to only have PA photographers given pride of place. This is the first wedding at Windsor that a fee has been charged. Photographers are saying the least you can do is give us equal access.
I know Harry is not a fan of the press and rightly so but a media pen for all agencies directly outside the chapel seems easy enough.
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And these sniping journos want to be in a pen opposite the Chapel door? Sorry guys, that would do nothing more than blind the wedding party and frighten the horses!
Rudolph, why do you continue to omit the most salient reason photographers are not in a pen opposite the Chapel doors? There is not enough room anywhere within the horseshoe and they would be far too close. This is not Westminster Abbey where there is room to safely pen photographers without ruining the wedding.
Let's get real here. Like it or not this is a private weddingHarry and Meghan have made arrangements for as many people as possible to see the Wedding, bridal party and the carriage ride, sharing their happiness because they know there is are many people who want to share it with them.
The crowd control issues are the responsibility of the Royal Borough of Windsor and the Thames Valley Police. Correct me if I'm wrong, but members of the Metropolitan police have also been seconded to augment the Windsor contingent. Harry is nowhere in that situation other than stating his preferences within the workable situation. The Powers That Be, namely HM's representatives in consultation with Royal Borough of Windsor, the Police and their own protection personnel.
I am astounded at the disingenuous whining and general bad mouthing of Harry especially by people who know better. You don't have to like Harry, you don't have to be in Winsor for the wedding. But telling half-truths are more of a lie than an outright lie. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own "facts".
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05-04-2018, 07:32 PM
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MARG, I think you need to discuss what you say are half-truths with the press who are complaining.
No fees were charge at a wedding in Windsor prior to Harry, and Charles and Edward seemed to be able to accommodate the press
Plus if there is a fee at least give everyone the same vantage point to take photos.
I only post the tweets. Don’t shoot the messenger.
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