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Old 08-26-2014, 10:36 AM
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I think Queen Camilla is likely to be Crowned using the late Queen Mothers crown, and IF she becomes merely Princess Consort she will wear the circlet from that crown to the Abbey.I think Catherine will also use the same crown when she is crowned.
If Queen Camilla is still alive at that time she may well wear the circlet from Queen Mary's crown [which is a wonderful, elegant thing]
Camilla has wonderful diadem-hair, when nicely brushed and coiffed. She has the perfect face and hairdo to wear the biggest diadems with aplomb. I think that George IV's State Diadem, the most beautiful diadem around (in my humble opinion) will look terrific on her.

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Old 08-26-2014, 10:45 AM
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Camilla has wonderful diadem-hair, when nicely brushed and coiffed. She has the perfect face and hairdo to wear the biggest diadems with aplomb. I think that George IV's State Diadem, the most beautiful diadem around (in my humble opinion) will look terrific on her.

Pic: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_2263163c.jpg
I agree - this image of the future is totally yummy and I am looking forward to it. While I doubt Charles' reign will have more tiara events, it will be great fun to see the Duchess fulfilling that part of her role.
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:07 AM
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I agree - this image of the future is totally yummy and I am looking forward to it. While I doubt Charles' reign will have more tiara events, it will be great fun to see the Duchess fulfilling that part of her role.
I don't know, Charles is pretty old school and love regalia events. He may bring that sparkle back to the royal family.

I think Camilla and Catherine will carry on the tradition of wearing the George IV State Diadem at the State Opening of Parliament.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:36 PM
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For those following the Camilla, Princess Consort saga (which is still ongoing), Clarence House tell me it is still the firm intention...

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…Camilla will be known as Princess Consort. On titles they said Camilla’s titles are "listed on website" & 'Pss of Wales is not one of them’

No matter what her title is, I hope people will continue to respect Camilla's dedication to Charles and the Monarchy.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:51 PM
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For those following the Camilla, Princess Consort saga (which is still ongoing), Clarence House tell me it is still the firm intention...

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…Camilla will be known as Princess Consort. On titles they said Camilla’s titles are "listed on website" & 'Pss of Wales is not one of them’

No matter what her title is, I hope people will continue to respect Camilla's dedication to Charles and the Monarchy.
There has to be a mistake or misunderstanding somewhere I think. As Camilla is married to The Prince of Wales, she most certainly is The Princess of Wales.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:55 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. Unless Camilla and Charles managed to sneak in a morganatic marriage without us realizing it at the time.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:55 PM
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There has to be a mistake or misunderstanding somewhere I think. As Camilla is married to The Prince of Wales, she most certainly is The Princess of Wales.
That's what I thought. I thought she's legally The Princess of Wales but it's not a title she officially go by. Both official websites has never mentioned her as the current Princess of Wales though.

I don't think that title will be used until Charles is on the throne and decide to invest William with the title, The Prince of Wales; which Catherine will go on to hold the title, HRH The Princess of Wales.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:58 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. Unless Camilla and Charles managed to sneak in a morganatic marriage without us realizing it at the time.
But in that case she wouldn't be Duchess of Cornwall also, right? And I thought that morganatic marriages did no exist in the UK.

I wish Clarence House would stop fuelling this mess with her titles.
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Old 08-26-2014, 02:09 PM
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But in that case she wouldn't be Duchess of Cornwall also, right? And I thought that morganatic marriages did no exist in the UK.



I wish Clarence House would stop fuelling this mess with her titles.

They don't. That's the issue.

If she doesn't hold his highest title - Princess of Wales - then it's implied that this is not an equal marriage, it's morganatic.

If she holds his highest title but choses to use a lesser title then it is an equal marriage, albeit an unusual one in terms of titles.

According to both royal.gov.uk and princeofwales.gov.uk (autocorrect had that as prince offals for a moment) Camilla chose to use the title Duchess of Cornwall. It says nothing about the Princess of Wales title.
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Morganatic marriages simply do not exist in British law - a wife takes the legal rank of her husband. In cases [such as this], where the husband has more than one title is is USUAL for the wife [and husband] to use the most senior. But out of [imo misplaced] consideration to public opinion, Camilla chose to utilise the lesser title of Duchess of Cornwall. Despite this she is legally, and legitimately HRH the Princess of Wales.
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So why is Charles/Clarence House sticking to this line? There must be more to it than just PR or they would have dropped it by now.
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Old 08-26-2014, 02:38 PM
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Possibly [I fear], because the lady herself really doesn't want to be titled Queen ?
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I hope Charles has good people around him and he's getting the best advice possible... the last thing the monarchy needs is a constitutional hiccup when his reign begins.
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Possibly [I fear], because the lady herself really doesn't want to be titled Queen ?
This could well be the reason, maybe Camilla doesn't want the title of Queen for what ever reason.
I was reading about Philip and his titles the other day and he was made a Prince of The United Kingdom through the Queen issuing letters patent so I imagine that's the most Charles as King would need to do for Camilla to have the title.
Its still just my opinion but I doubt (and hope for future wives of Kings) that Camilla will have the title Queen stripped from her by law rather she will just not use it.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:14 PM
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In Royalty magazine, it was declared:

As king Charles will bring a very different and in a very more political agenda to the role of monarchy than any of his predecessors.
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That may pose a problem, especially in some of the Commonwealth countries that may become republics for one of many reasons.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:58 PM
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In Royalty magazine, it was declared:

As king Charles will bring a very different and in a very more political agenda to the role of monarchy than any of his predecessors.
He will indeed be a very different King. If Charles isn't allowed to express himself on what he's passionate about, I think, he will be a very frustrated King and I just don't think that will lead to anything good.
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He will be able to express himself - just as his mother does now. He won't be allowed to express himself publicly - that is the difference. His voice will be heard and he will have more of a say.
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With Charles as king, I can see him downsizing the working family to just his own family and his siblings. But it may also be feasible for his siblings to retire too. If the new King and Queen, Prince and Princess of Wales, and Harry and wife do 500 engagements each, then that would be a sufficient number to keep the public happy. Plus the duchy of Lancaster would only have to support 2 extra royals, rather than the current 8.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:51 PM
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With Charles as king, I can see him down sizing the working family to just his own family and his siblings. But it may also be feasible for his siblings to retire too. If the new King and Queen, Prince and Princess of Wales, and Harry and wife do 500 engagements each, then that would be a sufficient number to keep the public happy. Plus the duchy of Lancaster would only have to support 2 extra royals, rather than the current 8.
Charles's siblings most likely won't retire but probably won't be so present as they are now.
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