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Old 04-25-2008, 06:21 AM
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I keep wondering about the idea of a slimmed down monarchy - from what the media says and the general impression overall it might seem that Charles is not particularly close to his siblings and nieces and nephews, so this means he might see it as acceptable to "cut out" some members of the family in the sense of public engagements and public roles, but do you think the public and the media would accept Charles effectively telling Ann to stop working? Especaiily as for example, Camilla doesn't work nearly as hard as Ann. Wouldn't it just make Charles look, well, vindictive?
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:56 AM
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I cannot imagine that the Queen will ever abdicate. At least I hope not.
She won't. This has been said time and time and time again. HM's reign will end with her death, period. Even if (God forbid!) she becomes incapacitated, there will be a Regency, not an abdication.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:10 AM
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I keep wondering about the idea of a slimmed down monarchy - from what the media says and the general impression overall it might seem that Charles is not particularly close to his siblings and nieces and nephews, so this means he might see it as acceptable to "cut out" some members of the family in the sense of public engagements and public roles, but do you think the public and the media would accept Charles effectively telling Ann to stop working? Especaiily as for example, Camilla doesn't work nearly as hard as Ann. Wouldn't it just make Charles look, well, vindictive?
That's my worry with Charles as king, because I do tend to think Charles is Jealous of his siblings. I do think he might be vindicitive towards them, which will cause a massive scandal.

I think Charles is his own worst enemy at times.

Which of Charles siblings would Charles be more vindictive towards, I have a hunch it will be towards the Wessex's family.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM
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That's my worry with Charles as king, because I do tend to think Charles is Jealous of his siblings. I do think he might be vindicitive towards them, which will cause a massive scandal.
Kezza what do you base your thoughts on? It just never occurred to me that Charles would be jealous of Anne, Andrew and Edward
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:33 AM
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That's my worry with Charles as king, because I do tend to think Charles is Jealous of his siblings. I do think he might be vindicitive towards them, which will cause a massive scandal.

I think Charles is his own worst enemy at times.

Which of Charles siblings would Charles be more vindictive towards, I have a hunch it will be towards the Wessex's family.
Even if you're right: what can he do to them? HM will make provisions in her will for all her children and in public life Charles is bound by the rules. But somehow I at least don't see him as vindictive at all.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:35 AM
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Kezza what do you base your thoughts on? It just never occurred to me that Charles would be jealous of Anne, Andrew and Edward
I get the feeling at times he is a bit jealous of them because the three of them to some extent get more loving attention from either The Queen or Prince Phillip in some way. I don't think Charles has ever had the same level of closeness to his parents, than what his younger siblings have had. Maybe some of that has been down to him.

For Example I think the Queen is closer to Andrew and Edward and Prince Phillip's favourite child is Anne and Favourite son is Edward.

That's just a feeling I get, but I could be wrong.
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I get the feeling at times he is a bit jealous of them because the three of them to some extent get more loving attention from either The Queen or Prince Phillip in some way. I don't think Charles has ever had the same level of closeness to his parents, than what his younger siblings have had. Maybe some of that has been down to him.

For Example I think the Queen is closer to Andrew and Edward and Prince Phillip's favourite child is Anne and Favourite son is Edward.

That's just a feeling I get, but I could be wrong.
Yes, maybe, but he is close to 60 now and has a loving family of his own, so I doubt he worries about such things, as they to a degree happen in all families.As he is the heir it could well be that it's the other way round...

Maybe he feels he had been treated harsher than the others but then he must see there was a reason behind it. And his choice of darling wife (the second, of course!) tells me a lot about who he regarded as his real mother, which was the Queen Mum. IMHO, of course.
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I think part of Charles' apperance of being vidicitive to his siblings is the fault of his staff. I rememeber that after the whole Ardent TV filming Prince Willaim at Uni fiasco that it was reported that Charles aides had briefied the media against Ed and Sophie.

I just feel that Charles likes being centre of attention and thus when he ebcomes King will want all the attention upon him, CAmilla, HArry and William. Thus we would probably like his siblings to stop performing, at least so many, public engagements. Whilst doing this to Ed and Andy might not be so controversial i think telling Ann to stop would be seen as simply petty, she's worked so hard for so long that she has earned the right to do as she pleases.

Can you just imagine Anne still working when Charles is King? I mean you'd have "Queen" Camilla performing a few engagements a month and the King's sister performing 600+ a year. I don't think Charles will let that sisutation happen, so the only answer is to get Ann to drop her engagements.

Here are some links to some stories:

Knives out for spin doctor as royals feud | UK news | The Observer
Has the puppet-master of St James's finally pulled one string too many? - Telegraph
It was me what spun it | UK news | The Guardian
Revealed: the vicious feud behind that Charles row | the Daily Mail
Philip turns on Wills in TV row | the Daily Mail
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I doubt Prince Charles can do anything to stop Princess Anne and he won't do. Princess Anne is very much her own person and even in their childhood it was Princess Anne who play the leader role. Prince Charles will not and will be not able to put any pressure on Princess Anne. I am quite sure about this.

Basically I don't see the problems of his siblings keeping their works in Charles' reign. It is about the royal family's integrated valuation and I don't see Prince Charles to change that. He may be not happy about the way he was/is treated by his parents but I don't think he would do anything to jepodise the stablilty of the monarchy and damage the image of the monarchy.

Even the royal silbings rivals are always there in private, there will be public peace among them.
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I think Charles and Anne are quite close. I can't see there being any rivalry there.
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I have to admit when it comes to Anne i think Charles and she get on well privatley, but i still think wen it comes ot public duties and the performing of lack of my Ann and Camilla, Charles aides at least, might seek to find a solution to avoid any embrassing comparisons. However i think Charles might personally like to see Ed disspear off the public royal map.
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Compared to her Coronation how Large is Charles expected to be will his sons wear robes ect ect some up how you think it might turn out.
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I just hope the pomp and ceremony which was seen at his mother's coronation remains. It's been said he wishes to wear his naval unfirom instead of the traditional garb, and that I can handle, but I won't be at all impressed if the royal ladies of Europe, Asia and Africa turn up without their parure's and suites.

A coronation, for the masses, is as much about show as it is about adherence, sanctity and tradition.

I expect Anne to dress like a man though...she does it so well...
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I wonder if they'll make coronation robes for all the peers or if they'll just have them come in their parliamentary robes.
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I think Charles and Anne are quite close. I can't see there being any rivalry there.
You don't ask your sibling to name your child if you don't like them. So I too believe that Charles and Anne are close, I also believe that Anne gets on really well with Camilla.

There is bound to be a slight distance between the older two and the younger two, but I don't think it is anything more than a slight generation gap. there may have been big arguments in the past (we don't know that definitely), but as with any family, there are always going to be minor falling outs.

Long live King Tom, Dick or George as long as Charles is happy with it!
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Camilla's legacy

Does anyone have any thoughts on what her legacy will be?
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Don't get me wrong- I really like Camilla. I think that she is a wonderful woman who loves her family and is loyal to the royal family and her country. She also does lots of good works.

However, I think that she will be remembered most often as the woman who had an affair with Prince Charles and/or wrecked his marriage with Diana. Yes, it is only one of the reasons why the marriage didn't work. But, for some, it is the strongest or most important.
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Too early to tell, IMO. If Charles dies before the Queen, Camilla's legacy will be different from her legacy if she spends a number of years as Queen Consort; her legacy as Queen Consort would be different from her legacy as Princess Consort. At this point it's largely conjecture.
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Don't get me wrong- I really like Camilla. I think that she is a wonderful woman who loves her family and is loyal to the royal family and her country. She also does lots of good works.

However, I think that she will be remembered most often as the woman who had an affair with Prince Charles and/or wrecked his marriage with Diana. Yes, it is only one of the reasons why the marriage didn't work. But, for some, it is the strongest or most important.
I agree, and it is rather a shame -- but people just won't let things die a natural death. Happens in EVERY country at one time or another.
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I tend to agree with acdc1. Duchess of Cornwall's legacy will always be marred by her earlier reputation.
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