The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > British Royals

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #2581  
Old 06-29-2016, 11:10 PM
Dman's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 11,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla View Post
With Queen Elizabeth II's reign, the Royal Maundy service is held in a different church every year. Do you think this will remain the same under King Charles III?
Yes, i believe Charles and Camilla will continue conducting this service in different churches as well. First service will likely be at Westminster Abbey.
__________________

__________________
"THE REAL POWER OF A MAN IS IN THE SIZE OF THE SMILE OF THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM."

GENTLEMAN'S ESSENTIALS
Reply With Quote
  #2582  
Old 06-29-2016, 11:13 PM
CyrilVladisla's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Conneaut, United States
Posts: 2,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dman View Post
Yes, i believe Charles and Camilla will continue conducting this service in different churches as well. First service will likely be at Westminster Abbey.
Is there a symbolic reason for King Charles III to have the first Royal Maundy service at Westminster Abbey?
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #2583  
Old 06-30-2016, 12:46 AM
Dman's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 11,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla View Post
Is there a symbolic reason for King Charles III to have the first Royal Maundy service at Westminster Abbey?
I think it will be held there first due it's the place where the King will be crowned.
__________________
"THE REAL POWER OF A MAN IS IN THE SIZE OF THE SMILE OF THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM."

GENTLEMAN'S ESSENTIALS
Reply With Quote
  #2584  
Old 06-30-2016, 07:12 AM
Skippyboo's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta, United States
Posts: 3,331
The Monarchy under Charles

For the Queen's coronation they had to shut down Westminster Abbey to build the seating out for the coronation. Depending on the date of the coronation, it could be closed.

I would think that they would just go to whatever church is on the schedule. The church for 2017 is probably already known to the people in the know. If Queen died a month before, are they going to switch it?

Apparently the Queen has requested that it isn't held in London more than once every ten years. The last time it was held at Westminster Abbey was famously right before the Royal Wedding. So it isn't likely for London until 2021.

Sent from my iPhone using The Royals Community
Reply With Quote
  #2585  
Old 06-30-2016, 09:48 AM
muriel's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London / Guildford, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by WreathOfLaurels View Post
I was always under the impression that Charles owned Highfrove and birkhall outright along with some property in Transylvania and other places - part of the fuss over highgrove was that is was in lieu of somewhere else in Kent (turns out it was cause it was closer to Camilla) and that he inherited birkhall from his grandmother as personal property. ?
As you have clearly demonstrated, perception based on incorrect information can be quite dangerous .
Reply With Quote
  #2586  
Old 10-23-2016, 09:42 AM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: *******, Canada
Posts: 4,385
Nothing really new. It says the Queen has given de-facto day to day control of the Royal Family to Charles.

Prince Charles prepares to transition to be king | Express Comment | Comment | Daily Express
Reply With Quote
  #2587  
Old 10-23-2016, 09:50 AM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Christmas Island
Posts: 5,924
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph View Post
Nothing really new. It says the Queen has given de-facto day to day control of the Royal Family to Charles.

Prince Charles prepares to transition to be king | Express Comment | Comment | Daily Express
Caption under the first picture: "Prince Charles, Duke of Wales" ....

Reply With Quote
  #2588  
Old 10-23-2016, 10:00 AM
AdmirerUS's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 4,444
Magnificent seven? Who is that source and when was the letter sent? Tragic journalism.
__________________
A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...bob_dylan.html
Reply With Quote
  #2589  
Old 10-23-2016, 10:03 AM
Dman's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 11,425
Charles and his family should be the main ones we see working within the firm.
__________________
"THE REAL POWER OF A MAN IS IN THE SIZE OF THE SMILE OF THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM."

GENTLEMAN'S ESSENTIALS
Reply With Quote
  #2590  
Old 10-23-2016, 10:04 AM
Skippyboo's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta, United States
Posts: 3,331
Technically there was only six on the balcony since the River Parade took out Philip.


Sent from my iPhone using The Royals Community
Reply With Quote
  #2591  
Old 10-23-2016, 11:13 AM
Duc_et_Pair's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City, Christmas Island
Posts: 5,924
We see this focus on the core royal family in all monarchies. Cousins, nephews, uncles, nieces and aunts massed on a balcony is maybe not sending the right signal. When I see that massive deployment of the extended royal family on the balcony (after the Trooping) I sometimes think: phew... Autumn Kelly, Xan Windsor, Mike Tindall and all the likes... The UK is unique in unloading two touringcars on that balcony...
Reply With Quote
  #2592  
Old 10-23-2016, 11:31 AM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: *******, Canada
Posts: 4,385
The Queen is still the Queen and she's ultimately in charge but I do think she consults and defers to Charles on many matters, especially long term planning for the Firm.

In fact I think William's opinion is sought out more and more. It was 'rumoured' during the Jubilee celebrations that Beatrice went not her uncle Charles but her cousin William when seeking a bigger role within the family but was politely rebuffed.

Charles has a clear idea of the direction he wants to take the family and I think the Queen is responsive to this.
Reply With Quote
  #2593  
Old 10-23-2016, 12:27 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: st. paul, United States
Posts: 967
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph View Post
The Queen is still the Queen and she's ultimately in charge but I do think she consults and defers to Charles on many matters, especially long term planning for the Firm.

In fact I think William's opinion is sought out more and more. It was 'rumoured' during the Jubilee celebrations that Beatrice went not her uncle Charles but her cousin William when seeking a bigger role within the family but was politely rebuffed.

Charles has a clear idea of the direction he wants to take the family and I think the Queen is responsive to this.
I would certainly hope William would be consulted on whether Beatrice should be a working royal. While Charles would support her for roughly 20 years, afterward William would be the one to support her for roughly 30-40 years. Then George would.

It's not just a decision that effects Charles and I think he is the first one to realize it.
Reply With Quote
  #2594  
Old 10-23-2016, 01:33 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Philadelphia, United States
Posts: 3,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph View Post
The Queen is still the Queen and she's ultimately in charge but I do think she consults and defers to Charles on many matters, especially long term planning for the Firm.
I keep hearing that the Queen is turning more and more of such decisions over to Charles.
It's quite understandable for a ninety-year-old woman who must consider the future.

Most people seem to approve Charles' desire to pare down the monarchy.

Yet I can't help feeling sorry for Beatrice, because the public life seems to be the only thing in which she has a genuine interest.
Reply With Quote
  #2595  
Old 10-23-2016, 02:16 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,250
Its only natural the Queen allows Charles more and more access and say in the running of the Royal Court and the Royal Family. Without being too morbid she is in her 90's so its only fair decisions about long term actions are taken, at least in consultation, with Charles as they are going to effect his reign as much as hers.
Reply With Quote
  #2596  
Old 10-23-2016, 02:45 PM
Countessmeout's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,412
People seem happy the royal family is slimming and I honestly wonder why. Do they think it will be less expensive because honestly that is the only concern I see. People do realize the total family will cost the same if there us 50 members as it does if there us 10? The sovereigns grant which is supplied by tax payers, will not shrink as the family does. All that will happen is there will be less people for that money to support. Less work for the same amount of money. Security costs for people like Edward and Andrew are already privately funded.

There is really no need to slim down the monarchy. It will naturally anyways. Princess Alexandra, the Gloucesters and kents are close to retiring. Anne and Edwards kids are private. Edward has had a place carved out taking over for his dad. In 20 years when will is king, his aunts and uncles will be retired or close to. It will leave him, Kate, Harry and his wife. Even with less patronages, there us a huge scope of work that would be hard got four To cover. Many patri ages that have had patrons for generations.

The reality is William will need support. It is plain bad thinking to cut loose his cousins totally. They may not be needed now, but down the line they will. Unlike his dad, will only has one sibling. And his fathers cousins, unlike the queen's, are private citizens. Allowing the yorks to do some duties now, but still live relatively private lives is a great balance. So when the day comes when will is king and he needs support, he won't have to call, them out of retirement, when they may not be willing. Eugenie has a perfect balance. She works a full time job, attends some family events, and has a handful of patronages. It would not be hard for her to increase that a bit when older.


I think in the end the shift don't be to only immediate family. I think we will simply see similar to the continentals. Where younger siblings and such still have patronages and attend events but they are encouraged To Have jobs and private lives. Like they attempted with Edward and Sophie. Charlotte and any younger siblings will be encouraged to a proper education and career paths. She may be duchess x one day and support her brother and dad, but still work. The Dutch are a great example.
Reply With Quote
  #2597  
Old 10-23-2016, 03:13 PM
PetticoatLane's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: A Small Town, United Kingdom
Posts: 381
If this story is true, and it's a thread that's been running for quite some time now, Charles and William must stand firm and insist that the Yorks lead largely private lives.

Much as I'm sure they're nice girls who could bring something to the Firm, this is totally outweighed by the PR disaster which would befall the RF if they were to become full-time royals. It would become a monkey on Charles and then William's backs for literally decades.

Unfair as I'm sure it is, the 'narrative' around the Yorks is already set in the minds of I'd say the majority of the British public - that they're work shy and grasping to hang on to their super privileged standard of living.
Reply With Quote
  #2598  
Old 10-23-2016, 03:21 PM
cepe's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 5,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by Countessmeout View Post
People seem happy the royal family is slimming and I honestly wonder why. Do they think it will be less expensive because honestly that is the only concern I see. People do realize the total family will cost the same if there us 50 members as it does if there us 10? The sovereigns grant which is supplied by tax payers, will not shrink as the family does. All that will happen is there will be less people for that money to support. Less work for the same amount of money. Security costs for people like Edward and Andrew are already privately funded.

There is really no need to slim down the monarchy. It will naturally anyways. Princess Alexandra, the Gloucesters and kents are close to retiring. Anne and Edwards kids are private. Edward has had a place carved out taking over for his dad. In 20 years when will is king, his aunts and uncles will be retired or close to. It will leave him, Kate, Harry and his wife. Even with less patronages, there us a huge scope of work that would be hard got four To cover. Many patri ages that have had patrons for generations.

The reality is William will need support. It is plain bad thinking to cut loose his cousins totally. They may not be needed now, but down the line they will. Unlike his dad, will only has one sibling. And his fathers cousins, unlike the queen's, are private citizens. Allowing the yorks to do some duties now, but still live relatively private lives is a great balance. So when the day comes when will is king and he needs support, he won't have to call, them out of retirement, when they may not be willing. Eugenie has a perfect balance. She works a full time job, attends some family events, and has a handful of patronages. It would not be hard for her to increase hat a bit when older.


I think in the end the shift don't be to only immediate family. I think we will simply see similar yo the continentals. Where younger siblings and such still have patronages and attend events but they are encouraged To Have jobs and private lives. Like they attempted with Edward and Sophie. Charlotte and any younger siblings will be encouraged to a proper education and career paths. She may be duchess x one day and support her brother and dad, but still work. The Dutch are a great example.
Re security costs - Edward and Andrew (as with all working royals) have state-funded RPOs. Not privately funded at all.

Beatrice and Eugenie used to have RPOs but these were withdrawn - £500,000 being quoted as the annual cost for both (not each). Andrew now pays for their security.
__________________

This precious stone set in the silver sea,......
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
Reply With Quote
  #2599  
Old 10-23-2016, 04:04 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,250
The problem is they way the Yorks are perceived as being 'pushy'. No one would or indeed has complained about the girls doing a few odd visits to charities etc, (indeed Zara and Lady Sarah Chatto support various charities as well as working) the problem is they (or Andrew) want to create a full time royal role for themselves. Rightly or wrongly that seems at odds with what Charles wants under his reign and indeed, is at odds with William and Harry at present.

It would be interesting to know if this letter had anything to do with Eugenie now getting a new home at KP as that was, apparently, one of the things Andrew wanted. Maybe thats how they resolved it, no royal role but have the apartment at KP.
Reply With Quote
  #2600  
Old 10-23-2016, 04:10 PM
PetticoatLane's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: A Small Town, United Kingdom
Posts: 381
I think the only way the Queen has more or less got away with having so many relatives 'on the payroll' as it were, is that the Kents and Gloucesters are so low key now that the vast majority of people wouldn't recognise them if they passed them in the street.

Much as they probably deserve more media coverage for the work they do, not getting that coverage actually works in their favour. They have the privilege of living in palaces, access to all sorts of benefits that go with being TRH, security and an income provided by HM but still able to live largely private lives. None of them do masses of events, but they've got a pretty good deal.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
british, camilla, charles iii, charles of wales, coronation, crown jewels, duchess of cornwall, legacy, prince charles, prince of wales, queen camilla, titles, william v


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Monarchy in Greece Fireweaver The Royal Family of Greece 309 10-31-2016 06:54 PM
Monarchy vs Republic marian Royalty Past, Present, and Future 392 10-16-2016 10:14 AM
The Monarchy after Elizabeth II ysbel British Royals 311 12-29-2012 04:36 PM
The Monarchy And The Media Alexandria Royal House of Norway 12 04-08-2004 05:06 PM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit catherine middleton style coup d'etat crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion crown princess mette-marit current events diana duchess of cambridge duchess of cornwall eveningwear e-mail fashion poll grand duke jean greece kate middleton king abdullah ii king felipe king felipe vi king willem-alexander member introduction monarchy new zealand nobel gala norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week prince bernhard prince charles princess madeleine princess marie princess mary princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats princess victoria birthday princess victorias daytime fashion queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen letizia style queen mathilde queen mathildes outfits queen mathildes style queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania royal fashion september 2016 state visit state visit to denmark stewart succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:32 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016
Jelsoft Enterprises