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Old 04-19-2016, 11:00 AM
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No one will ever match her... especially not her self-indulgent son. On the eve of her 90th birthday, MAX HASTINGS says, yes, the Queen has her flaws. But, by God, we've been blessed to have such a shrewd operator

By Max Hastings for the Daily Mail
Published: 19:03 EST, 18 April 2016 | Updated: 21:13 EST, 18 April 2016
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:18 AM
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No one will ever match her... especially not her self-indulgent son. On the eve of her 90th birthday, MAX HASTINGS says, yes, the Queen has her flaws. But, by God, we've been blessed to have such a shrewd operator

By Max Hastings for the Daily Mail
Published: 19:03 EST, 18 April 2016 | Updated: 21:13 EST, 18 April 2016
This article has so many factual errors that it shouldn't have been posted here.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:26 AM
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This article has so many factual errors that it shouldn't have been posted here.
The same can be said for all Mail/Express/Sun 'articles'. Sir Max Hastings is a competent military historian. His Mail pieces however are worthless, sensationalist garbage.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:32 AM
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This article has so many factual errors that it shouldn't have been posted here.
It is mostly an opinion piece and I am not seeing where there are "many factual errors." I don't particularly agree with all that's being stated but I don't think that the opinions being expressed are baseless.
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Old 04-19-2016, 02:53 PM
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American author Christopher Andersen tells NBC's Matt Lauer about "Game of Crowns," his new book analyzing the relationships and rivalries of the queen, her heir apparent Camilla, and Duchess Kate. He says that the long-reigning monarch has come to a place where she "tolerates" Camilla.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard - its like reading the Globe. And can I ask, is Americans really that stupid?

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Queen Elizabeth tolerates Camilla, says Game of Crowns author - NBC News
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Old 04-19-2016, 02:59 PM
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The same can be said for all Mail/Express/Sun 'articles'. Sir Max Hastings is a competent military historian. His Mail pieces however are worthless, sensationalist garbage.
I read his World War I book and greatly enjoyed it.
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:09 PM
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Americans author Christopher Andersen tells NBC's Matt Lauer about "Game of Crowns," his new book analyzing the relationships and rivalries of the queen, her heir apparent Camilla, and Duchess Kate. He says that the long-reigning monarch has come to a place where she "tolerates" Camilla.

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard - its like reading the Globe. And can I ask, is Americans really that stupid?

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Queen Elizabeth tolerates Camilla, says Game of Crowns author - NBC News
Of course she "tolerates" her, she's been married to her son for 11 years ! Camilla is not a pariah anymore, and some people seem to be still disappointed by this simple fact.
And according to some other "sources", the Queen does like her daughter in law : shock and horror !

Queen Elizabeth impressed with Camilla
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:35 PM
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Of course she "tolerates" her, she's been married to her son for 11 years ! Camilla is not a pariah anymore, and some people seem to be still disappointed by this simple fact.
And according to some other "sources", the Queen does like her daughter in law : shock and horror !

Queen Elizabeth impressed with Camilla
Did you watch the video? They said the Queen had a plan to get William on the throne instead of Charles and that there was rivalry between Camilla and Kate. As I said: It was like reading The Globe. Isn't NBC/MSNBC supposed to be a serious Channel/News Channel?
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:47 PM
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Did you watch the video? They said the Queen had a plan to get William on the throne instead of Charles and that there was rivalry between Camilla and Kate. As I said: It was like reading The Globe. Isn't NBC/MSNBC supposed to be a serious Channel/News Channel?
How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:54 PM
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The Queen doesn't even have the power to change the line of succession. Christopher Andersen is hack. His book on W&K is a joke. There are conservations in that people that are impossible for a 3rd party to know like the Middletons talking to each other watching Charles's wedding to Diana


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Old 04-19-2016, 03:55 PM
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How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.

Because the Queen knows the succession follows the same path it always has - the throne will be inherited by the eldest child.

That's what monarchy is about - at least in the UK. Start bringing popularity and choice into it and you might just as well have an elected head of state.
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:56 PM
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How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.
I think most people realize that this is not true. Have you seen the crazy stories that people like these American authors/magazines come up with?
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How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.
Maybe because, from literally everything we've seen and heard of the Queen across very nearly 90 years, she's not a cruel, vindictive, un-forgiving person? Maybe?
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Old 04-19-2016, 03:57 PM
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How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.
It's indeed completely plausible, like this :

Camilla Makes The Queen Try Botox, Gets "Banished" From The Palace! - The Hollywood Gossip
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How do you know that is not actually true ? I am not saying it is, but I don't see why you should rule it out as completely implausible.

The line of succession can only be changed by the various parliaments. We saw how it works to change it equal primogeniture.


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This is far from the worst story I've seen from these crazy magazines.
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Old 04-19-2016, 04:08 PM
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The line of succession can only be changed by the various parliaments. We saw how it works to change it equal primogeniture.


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It could change by Charles stepping aside. I don't think that will happen, just saying
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Old 04-19-2016, 04:20 PM
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Christopher is one of those members of the media that like to create these rivalry stories about members of the royal family. It's true, The Queen had a difficult relationship with Camilla back in the day. That was expected of course. I think they get along just fine.

Books, articles, headlines and reports about the royals getting along don't sell and get people excited. Now, tales of rivalries and scandals do sell.
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Old 04-19-2016, 04:27 PM
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The Monarchy under Charles

Per this article, Charles can't give up his right by just signing it away. He would have to convert to Catholicism or had his marriage not approved to lose place prior to succeeding to the throne.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/insi...h-throne-13287

However, the point of it is the Queen herself can't remove Charles and give it to William.


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Did you watch the video? They said the Queen had a plan to get William on the throne instead of Charles and that there was rivalry between Camilla and Kate. As I said: It was like reading The Globe. Isn't NBC/MSNBC supposed to be a serious Channel/News Channel?
I suppose no less reliable than the British press. I personally don't take much said in the media as gospel, regardless of their nationality. It's hard to say whether the Queen likes Camilla...or anything else for that matter. However, I don't think she'd do anything to throw the monarchy off balance or create controversy.
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