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Old 01-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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What Will Happen When The Queen Dies

I feel when the Queen dies we will see some big changes. Not only will Charles become King, but the public will finally see if Camilla will become Queen. Although I might not like Camilla, Charles does love her, and Willian and Harry seem to get along with her. I think time has healed some wounds and hopefully Camillia can be crowned as Queen.

But that is just my opinion. What's yours?
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:52 PM
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There's been plenty of discussion in Prince of Wales' thread:
Will Charles Ever Reign? Part 5
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:22 PM
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The first thing that will happen is that she will be given a State Funeral then buried.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:24 PM
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The first thing that will happen is that she will be given a State Funeral then buried.
Before that, the new King will be proclaimed after a meeting of the Accession Council.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:31 PM
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May this time be long coming.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:44 PM
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wonder what name he will use?
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:54 PM
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Prince Charles once said that Charles II was one, if not, his favourite King so I doubt he will be anything else, if all goes well, than Charles III.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:20 PM
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I think that if he is planning to use George, he should have started using that as his public name decades ago. He is, in everyone's mind, Charles. He could call himself Zilgaglax XXXVI if he wanted, and people will still call him Charles.

Edit: Now that I think about it, he might be able to pull off a name change (although I don't think he will). His grandfather even picked his own brother's name and that didn't seem to confuse people, although Charles has been Charles for much longer than George VI was Albert.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:16 PM
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Reading the comments about why there is a need to limit the number of HRH's around i was reminded of Robert's Lacey's book "Royal" when he quotes a palace aide as saying:
"The problem with all the HRHs is that immediately you are called HRH, you are given police protection. You come to expect top security coverage...The Queen was driving back from Windsor one Monday when she got stuck in traffic coming through Hyde Park. She was sitting there quietly in the traffic jam, when suddenly there was a screaming of sirens and a Rolls-Royce with motorcycle escorts came speeding past her on the wrong side of the road. She looked out, and there was Princess Michael of Kent."

This highlights that even if HRHs do not receive civil list payments etc they do receive protection as with the HRH status comes the inherent risk security wise. As others have pointed out there is also the possibility of an HRH being involved in some embarrassing situation or another.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:16 AM
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Was it not the Sun King who said 'Apres mois, le deluge'? QEII, (as well as her parents and grandparents) has been England's shining sun for 70 years. Never setting a foot wrong, always an example. The POW and his future 'Queen or Princess COnsort' whatever they ar calling her this week, not so much. JMO, but there is a large population of Britain who feels the same way, although this is not refelected in the demographics of TRF, who are overwhelmingly pro Charles and Camilla. It will be interesting to see what happens when The Queen dies.
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:18 AM
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Well I don´t want to see the Queen die for sure, it will mean the end of a very dignified wonderful era, but I think you have it wrong, if you think that there is a large population in Britain who feel like you do about Charles and Camilla. In fact I think you have it very wrong.
I was never a fan of Camilla, in fact I was aghast when I heard they were actually getting married, not because I admired Diana - far from it, it was just something I thought would never happen. Since their marriage Camilla has earned my admiration, she has supported her husband, something Diana never did, she has kept in the background discreetly, something Diana never did, she has made her husband happy and laugh, now that is something that Diana never ever did. In fact she has behaved with the utmost dignity and I feel that the people of Britain have noticed this and when the time comes for Charles to be King I think Camilla as his consort will be respected for not only her position but the very nice person she seems to be.
Perhaps you do notice a bias in TRF, have you thought that this is because most of the people here are actually interested in the royal family and its future and have been paying more attention to what is going on in the royal circles than the general public that seems to be more interested in football and reality shows?
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:37 AM
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I am in total agreement with you Menarue. The dynamics of the marriage of Charles and Camilla are really quite quietly inspiring. It is almost as if Camilla is modelling her role on Queen Mother. Her first and foremost duty was to him, his health and happiness and that of her children.

A lot of people seem to forget that Camilla has children of her own and is now a grandparent. Factoring "her family" time in with her duties as the wife of the Prince of Wales must be difficult, but she never fails to be there to support Charles. And we have noticed the difference! He seems to have rediscovered his joy in life and I don't ever remember seeing so many pictures of him grinning like a chesire cat or just outright howling with laughter.

It will be different under a new monarch, but it won't be boring!
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:53 AM
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I do remember photos of Charles smiling and laughing like he does now - that was back in the 1970s however, before he was married. After his marriage, he lost that twinkle in his eye and his enjoyment of everything - at least I didn't see it in any photos after 1981.
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I am afraid that QEQM, is rolling in her grave if you really think Camilla is 'modeling herself on the late Queen'. Comparing Elizabeth Bowles-Lyon Queen Elizabeth's conduct of herself her entire life with Camilla to me is like ...I'm not even going to bother to type it out as it's sure to be deleted. Lets Just say, the late Queen contucted herself impeccably without a hint of scandal or impropriety her entire life. Not something that can be said of Camilla, even by her most die hard fans. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:15 PM
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The POW and his future 'Queen or Princess Consort' whatever they are calling her this week..
There's no brownie points for making snide remarks at every opportunity Scooter. It's very unattractive.
In case you are ignorant of the fact, this week Camilla is the Duchess of Cornwall, just as she was last week.
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:26 PM
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I am aware of her present title ,Warren. I was refering to the fact that there is quite a bit of doubt as to whether she will be known as Queen Camilla or Princess Consort as we were led to believe. As the thread is about 'the Monarchy after QE', I was referring to her future title. I wasn't being snide. I'm sorry you find my posts unattractive.
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.... snipped.... Lets Just say, the late Queen contucted herself impeccably without a hint of scandal or impropriety her entire life. Not something that can be said of Camilla, even by her most die hard fans. Just my opinion.
The public perception of the Queen mother is someone who was cute and cuddly, while to many more she was known as a nasty piece of work. Camilla has always conducted herself with the utmost discretion, but is also known for her approachability and unwavering friendship to those lucky enough to know her. There but for the grace of whatever you believe in ......

The monarchy after Elizabeth, exciting, happy, different, new.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:34 PM
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I never considered her to be cute or cuddly. Just someone who had high standards. Of course she had to. The only reason she was Queen was that the prior King, her BIL, was absolutely not allowed to marry The Divorcee and retain his right to the throne and his income. Nor was The Princess Margaret if she actually married Peter Townsend, nor was Prince Michael, and they were way further down the succession. But, now we have Camilla and Charles, allowed to marry, retain the right to be heir to the throne AND keep the $Zillions. Meh. Oh I forget. I was being unattractive, and ignorant, mentioning this pesky reality of history.
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The monarchy after Elizabeth II...Different, challanged and uncertain. A mere reflection of the times.

Optimism though...always optimistic! And It's my sincere hope that the transition is a smooth one.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:04 AM
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I never considered her to be cute or cuddly. Just someone who had high standards. Of course she had to. The only reason she was Queen was that the prior King, her BIL, was absolutely not allowed to marry The Divorcee and retain his right to the throne and his income. Nor was The Princess Margaret if she actually married Peter Townsend, nor was Prince Michael, and they were way further down the succession. But, now we have Camilla and Charles, allowed to marry, retain the right to be heir to the throne AND keep the $Zillions. Meh. Oh I forget. I was being unattractive, and ignorant, mentioning this pesky reality of history.
Haven't we all been through this before and corrected the impression that Prince Michael lost his right to the throne for marrying a divorced woman? The reason he was bumped from the succession is that he married a Catholic - and I believe that Princess Michael's first marriage was annulled so Prince Michael wasn't marrying a divorcee.

As for Princess Margaret's case, it seems that there was a pretty widely held opinion that she was treated with quite unnecessary cruelty over the Townsend affair. That treatment very probably had something to do with the fact that Princess Anne had an easier time of it when she wanted to remarry after a divorce and that the same happened to Prince Charles when he wanted to marry a divorcee. For the heir to the throne to have to give up his position in the line of succession and all his royal income and privileges in order to marry a divorcee would seem so extremely bizarre in the 21st century when so many marriages end in divorce that it might do the institution more harm than good.
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