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Old 05-11-2012, 08:53 AM
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I see what you mean, Marc. But compared to Catherine, who adapted the lifestyle of the country she ruled over and where she spent the most time of her life, Princess Michael is at least half Austrian-Hungarian, was raised by her Austrian-Hungarian mother and speaks German with an unmistakable Austrian accent. As her father was foremost Silesian it is not that easy to call them German IMO. I do know Silesians myself and I can assure that they first of all consider themselves Silesian and not German or Polish (which is, BTW, difficult for Silesians, as they aren't seen as Germans in Germany or Poles in Poland either). I'm not an expert when it comes to Silesia, but its history is difficult. I know that one of Princess Michael's biographies stated that she is in fact only one quarter German (dunno if that's correct) and in this interview she more or less says that her father's Silesia was the one who was part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire:

BBC - BBC Radio 4 Programmes - Desert Island Discs, HRH Princess Michael of Kent

It's an interesting interview by the way - a 40 minutes conversation.

It's all pretty tricky I think. I come from a part of Germany where most people feel more French than German (and by blood we are more French/Celtic for sure), yet, through political decisions, we belong to Germany now, speak German and count as German.

I'm not sure, but I believe that Günther von Reibnitz' first language must have been German. People from that area in Silesia also spoke a dialect, known as "wasserpolnisch" (a mixture between Polish, Czech and German). His background and family history are quite complicated - wasn't his German maternal grandmother in fact Jewish? One of the bios says that Ida Crone, who married von Reibnitz' maternal grandfather, was Jewish...

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Old 05-11-2012, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NoorMeansLight View Post
In fact, German & Austrian are two different ethnicities.

Different ethicities? Not really ... Or then you have to differentiat also between Bavarians and Franks (Franken not Franzosen) and Hessen and Allemannen and so forth ...

This whole area in one sense has different 'tribes', but in an broader context there is not a difference between the people in Bavaria or Vorarlberg or Tirol or some parts in Switzerland.

The boarders don't follow 'tribes-land-boarder' but shifted for politically, marriage and a lot of other reasons, and where constituted (more or less) after Napoleon times ... so no there are NOT ethnically different.

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Old 05-12-2012, 08:40 AM
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Marc23, I know what the British people think about Princess Michael's background. The same stories in the press have been going on and on forever. You will kindly allow me to think out of the box.

Nice Nofret, thank you for the correction. What I intended to write was 'two different nationalities'. These days an Austrian doesn't identify him/herself as a German too, and vice versa. Anyway, my main point was that I strongly disagree with Auntie's pattern of thought.

Dierna23, thanks for providing such precious info! Nice conversation everyone!
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoorMeansLight View Post
Marc23, I know what the British people think about Princess Michael's background. The same stories in the press have been going on and on forever. You will kindly allow me to think out of the box.
Of course,as Germans and Austrians differ among themselves in PM's case it's all the same when British Press is concerned...they are not too enthusiastic about her,so they don't even bother to make proper informations available

I don't want to tell you what you should think,but I just stated what majority in Britain think about her,mainly due to bad press she received over the years!
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Princess Michael herself was aware of the rumours about her [alleged] nicknames, and once told a magazine that they were completely untrue, as the Queen calls her 'MC' for Marie Christine.

This is true...The Queen calls her indeed "MC" Marie-Christine.

You can hear that at 6:43min. when she presented the Princess,during the Poland state visit to the Polish president:


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