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I would recall her back to England immediately and not her get mixed up with a bunch of nouveau riche little brats whose lives are spilled across US and People and In Touch magazine that we have to look at in the supermarket.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:47 AM
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The Knatchbull-Brabourne family are related to Jane Austen. Jane's niece, Fanny Knight, married Sir Edward Knatchbull, and their eldest son, Edward Hugessen Knatchbull, became the 1st Baron Brabourne in 1880. The Baron inherited from his mother the letters Jane wrote to her sister Cassandra. It has been noted often that Jane was extremely close to Fanny, Lady Knatchbull, who is considered to have been Jane's favorite niece/nephew, probably almost like her own daughter. In fact, Fanny's romance with Sir Edward was somewhat inspirational for the novel Persuasion. Apparently, Fanny had some doubts on whether to accept Sir Edward's proposal, supposedly because of financial trouble, though they were supposedly deeply in love, and Fanny sought aunt Jane's advice. The novel is completely fictional, though. It has long been my favorite of Austen's books, Emma being #2 and S & S being #3 favorites for me.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:29 PM
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FWIW, India Hicks is the host of the reality competition program Top Design which is a sort of Project Runway for interior designers.
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I understand that lord Mountbatten was son of princess Victoria, grandchild of queen Victoria. His father Lord Louis Mountbatten,ex prince Louis, was born in Germany, but when he had 14, he entered to British navy. In the first world war, people British dont want that he was as Chief of the navy because he was born as german. But, this prince was more british that german as his son Dickie said one time. Lord Mountbatten is uncle of prince Philip and the same queen, because they are grand- grandchildren of queen Victoria. And I understand that George, lord Milford Haven, his brother, had a great collection of pornography and when he dead, this collection, that is very expensive, is now in a museum, but I dont know in which.
Speaking of Lord Milford Haven, his wife Nada featured in one of the great society scandals of the 1930's. She was born Countess Nadeja de Torby the daughter of Grand Duke Michael Mikhailovich and Countess Sophie von Merenberg who was a granddaughter of the Russian poet Pushkin who was of African descent. Because the marriage was morganatic and the Emperor did not approve, they were forced to leave Russia and live abroad.

Anyway to get back to the 1930's society scandal, I assume we've all heard of Gloria Vanderbilt. Her mother Gloria Morgan married Reggie Vanderbilt who was an heir to the Vanderbilt railroad fortune. Vanderbilt died soon after the birth of his daughter Gloria and in his will he made his widow the administrator of a $2.5 million trust fund he left for "Little Gloria". She spent the next six years in Paris basically living the good life with wealthy friends at chic resorts.

The Vanderbilt family, disturbed by stories they were receiving about her behavior from private detectives they had hired as well as from family servants, sued to get custody of Little Gloria on the grounds that her mother was an unfit parent. One of the reasons given was the allegation that she and Nada Milford Haven (as she was by then) had had a lesbian affair. Nada was well-known to be gay although she never confirmed nor denied any involvement with Gloria. Gloria was also rumored to have had an affair with Prince Gottfried von Hohenlohe who was married to Princess Margarita of Greece and Denmark. She was the daughter of Princess Alice of Battenberg and her husband Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark and thus a niece by marriage of Nada.

By the way, Gloria's twin sister Thelma was the mistress of the-then Prince of Wales during this time.
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January 10/11 2008 the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung had a huge article on the princes of Battenberg. Unfortunatly it is not freely available on the net (payment only), so I thought I give you a bit of a summary ...

The castle of Battenberg upon the river Eder was build in the 12th century ... it was hardly finished when the line of the count became extinct as the the last Battenberg died in 1314. The county belonged henceforth to the archbishop of Mainz. In the 15 th century the archbishops lost it to the Landgraves of Hessen, Darmstädter Line. The next few centuries were shaped by utter eventlessness, which ended only by the destruction of the castle. Beneath the ruins the landgraves would build a hunting lodge. It became thrilling again, when love entered the agenda during 19th century ...

Prince Alexander of Hessen fell in love to a court lady of his sister, her name: Julia von Hauke. Once the tsar had taken her to his court after the death of her father, a highly decorated general. Neither the tsar nor the brother of Alexander approved the marriage, but the groom turned out to be tenacious and married the lady in Breslau 1951. In order to elevate her a bit the grand duke of Hessen gave her a titel which was connected with no tenure whats-o-ever: Julia became first the countess, later the Princess of Battenberg and thereby foremother of all Mountbattens.

BTW there is a so called Heimatmuseum (museum of local history) in Battenberg which exhibits also a Mountbatten part. A certain Forstoberamtsrat Röbert is head of it.

Julia and Alexander had five children and a small palace in Seeheim, on the verge of the forest Odenwald. The four sons used their military skills. The eldest Ludwig Alexander von Battenberg became highest ranking admiral of the British fleet prior to WW1. But because of the hatred of Germans, he handed in his resignation and changed his name on July 1, 1917 into Mountbatten. BTW he visited the city of Battenberg on May 2, 1959. A surprise visit.
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Planners call time on Marquess of Milford Haven's polo centre - Telegraph
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Earl Mountbatten's grandson finally tells his story of survival and loss - Telegraph

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This could be a very, very interesting read. Thank you for the link, E and O.

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Allegra and Ashley Hicks to go their separate ways after 19 years of marriage - Telegraph


"Ashley Hicks is a grandson of the late Earl Mountbatten of Burma."
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Princes Leopold and Maurice of Battenberg/Mountbatten

I'm a biology teacher who does a unit on genetic disorders, and being a bit of a royalty geek, I spend a few days on the Hemophilia inheritance in Queen Victoria's descendents.
I'm interested in any information out there about Princess Beatrice's (QV's youngest daughter) two sons who had hemophilia. Prince Leopold of Battenberg died in 1914 of wounds suffered in WWI, and Prince Maurice died after the war due to complications from surgery, but that's pretty much all I know. The more that I know about the hemophilia sufferers, the more poignant, and I hope, more interesting the "story" becomes.
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Nicholas Knatchbull caught on video smoking crack cocaine

Prince Charles' godson Nicholas Knatchbull caught on video smoking crack cocaine - mirror.co.uk
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Oh no, poor Nicky. Not again drugs. He has to fight against his drug addiction for years now. I hope he will turn the right way soon. Its really sad news but no surprise to me as he lives a very different live as his parents and sister do. He's a House-DJ btw.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:45 AM
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Indeed. Not very good news.
I hope he changes his ways soon.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:53 AM
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Oh, dear. I hope he seeks treatment.
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How stupid can you get. He is too old for "tough love" or whatever, I thought he would be a teenager and suffering from teenage angst.

Saw a programme on the BBC where celebrities tried to experience homelessness and one of them, the Marquess of Blandford, he stands to inherit Blenheim I think, copt out, stayed in a hotel and lied about it.

What is wrong with these people is it education or character I wonder.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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I think having the kind of privileges these aristocratic children do can either make you a better or a worse person. Unfortunately, this seems to be a "worse" example.
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:28 PM
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I think Nicholas is a kind of very sensible and the Mountbattens/Knatchbulls had several tragedies. Nicholas' younger sister Leonora died at the age of 5, suffered from cancer. He had several rehabs and seemed to be really happy when he was clean but sadly that didn't stay for long...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21583403/
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:24 PM
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There gets to be a point when parents can do no more and they have to let go. Their child will either sink or swim. Nicholas is immature and self-centered and is using any excuse to use drugs. The family has experienced tragedy, but have survived and I refuse to believe Nicholas' whining.
I apologize if I've offended some posters, that sincerely was not my intent. I've lived with this in my family and have a good friend that has gone through and Nicholas' parents are enablers. He has to truly hit rock bottom before he can reform and some people never make it. It's cruel, but true. I'm sorry,but I can't have sympathy for a privileged aristocrat using drugs and complaining about his sister receiving money and he didn't so he has to use.
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There gets to be a point when parents can do no more and they have to let go. Their child will either sink or swim. Nicholas is immature and self-centered and is using any excuse to use drugs. The family has experienced tragedy, but have survived and I refuse to believe Nicholas' whining.
I apologize if I've offended some posters, that sincerely was not my intent. I've lived with this in my family and have a good friend that has gone through and Nicholas' parents are enablers. He has to truly hit rock bottom before he can reform and some people never make it. It's cruel, but true. I'm sorry,but I can't have sympathy for a privileged aristocrat using drugs and complaining about his sister receiving money and he didn't so he has to use.
Katianna, no apologies needed. You are 1,000 % correct. I became physically ill reading this story. The best thing his parents could do is to cut him off --- financially --- let him see how the rest of the world lives. He will either learn or die. Frankly, I don't know which one is the better alternative for this very sad young man who had so much but decided to throw it away.
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Let him see how the rest of the world lives. He will either learn or die. Frankly, I don't know which one is the better alternative for this very sad young man who had so much but decided to throw it away.
Well, I think, he knows how the rest of the world lives as he lives alone in London... As far as I know.
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