The Battenberg - Mountbattens

[Lady Marmalade]

Actually he would be not a step-uncle. His mother, Princess Andrew of Greece, was Queen Louise's sister. She was step-mother to the late Queen Ingrid of Denmark and to current King of Sweden's grandfather.

If anything he would have been a step-first-cousin to those two...if that is really a correct term of endearment.

Nicholas Natchbull was in trouble in the late 1990's for drug use and was involved in a car accident.

[Daneborn]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

Actually he would be not a step-uncle. His mother, Princess Andrew of Greece, was Queen Louise's sister. She was step-mother to the late Queen Ingrid of Denmark and to current King of Sweden's grandfather.

If anything he would have been a step-first-cousin to those two...if that is really a correct term of endearment.

Nicholas Natchbull was in trouble in the late 1990's for drug use and was involved in a car accident.

Louise was married to Carl-Gustaf's grandfather and she was the stepmother of Carl-Gustaf's father as well as Queen Ingrid.

I think I understand the family tree, I just don't quite know how you operate these first and second cousin expressions. In my mind, since Philip is one generation older than Carl Gustaf, he belongs to the uncle-generation and since Louise was a stepmother it makes Philip a stepuncle. If that expression even exists They can't ''step-'' forever, can they ??

[Lady Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Daneborn

Louise was married to Carl-Gustaf's grandfather and she was the stepmother of Carl-Gustaf's father as well as Queen Ingrid.

I think I understand the family tree, I just don't quite know how you operate these first and second cousin expressions. In my mind, since Philip is one generation older than Carl Gustaf, he belongs to the uncle-generation and since Louise was a stepmother it makes Philip a stepuncle. If that expression even exists They can't ''step-'' forever, can they ??

Yes, he is a generation older than the current King, but he is not a step-uncle.

Look at it like this, you have an aunt, your mom's sister, who marries a man with his own children, you are then sort a step- first cousin to them. When they have children of their own, you are then a step-second cousin...in no way are you an uncle or aunt...unless it is honorary.. :)

[sinulord]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

Yes, he is a generation older than the current King, but he is not a step-uncle.

Look at it like this, you have an aunt, your mom's sister, who marries a man with his own children, you are then sort a step- first cousin to them. When they have children of their own, you are then a step-second cousin...in no way are you an uncle or aunt...unless it is honorary.. :)

I think relationships through marriage are not as important as blood relationships. What's more important now is that Prince Phillip and King Carl XVI Gustav are third cousins. Prince Phillip descends from The Princess Alice, the second daughter of QV, while the Swedish King from The Prince Leopold the Duke of Albany, the youngest son of QV. The only current European monarch with Battenberg blood (since Queen Louise did not bear the King Gustav VI Adolf any surviving children) is King Juan Carlos I of Spain. His paternal grandmother Queen Victoria Eugenia was a Battenberg.

[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by sinulord

What's more important now is that Prince Phillip and King Carl XVI Gustav are third cousins. Prince Phillip descends from The Princess Alice, the second daughter of QV, while the Swedish King from The Prince Leopold the Duke of Albany, the youngest son of QV.

They are also 3rd cousins through another of Queen Victoria's sons, Prince Arthur the Duke of Connaught whose daughter married King Gustav VI Adolf of Sweden.

[kelly9480]

Nicky wasn't in a car accident. His car was stopped for speeding and they found drugs in the car.

[Lady Marmalade]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

Nicky wasn't in a car accident. His car was stopped for speeding and they found drugs in the car.

I did not mean accident where someone was hurt. I meant the type of car accident where he was swerving and did cause some minor damage to the car.

[branchg]

Also, Julia von Haucke was eventually granted the title of HSH Princess Battenberg by the Grand Duke of Hesse. Her children were all Serene Highnesses and Prince/Princess Battenberg as a result.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Well, it seems like the much-told Mountbatten/Battenberg history has been hashed out. Is there any news about this always-fascinating family?
Last I read of them, it was during the time of a major anniverary for the death of the late Earl and poor little Nicky Knatchbull. In the summer of 2004, it was 25 years. I think there was a statue dedicated to Nicholas at his school, right? Norton and Nicholas and Alexandra attended, and Prince Charles gave a speech.

[BeatrixFan]

There was a TV programme recently on the Queen and Countess Mountbatten and Lady Pamela Hicks spoke about their father's murder which was extremely moving. One thing amazed me though. Countess Mountbatten said, "These things just happen to people and so we picked ourselves up and carried on as one has to do". I've seen an interview with Princess Alice where she spoke about Prince William's death and her husband's death a few years later. She said, "These things happen to other people and they carry on, so why shouldn't we? What else can one do?". It seems that this way of handling upset within the family has been extended to whole Royal Family, in the way that the Queen coped with both Diana's death and her mother's death. Also it's evident in the way Princess Marina coped with the Duke of Kent's death. I just find it so strange and I wonder where it stems from.

[grevinnan]

What else do you do when something tragic happens. You put one foot in front of the other and continue on. That's life.

[BeatrixFan]

True. And it's something I've always done. But it's just such a no-nonsense way of dealing with things that I find inspirational but also sad.

[selrahc4]

It's also a very healthy way of dealing with things. It doesn't mean, of course, that one forgets the person who is gone.

[Bella]

Can someone enlighten me to the Mountbattens? I know they are closely linked to the BRF and Prince Charles was extremely attached to "Uncle" Louis Mountbatten, who was very close with PC's grandfather and grand uncles. And I know the Prince Phillip is related to them through is mother. Louis Mountbatten had two daughters, correct? Who did they marry? I know the name Knatchbull is linked to this family as well. And wasn't a young boy - a twin - also killed with Louis Mountbatten? Was this his grandson?

Thank you.

[chrissy57]

Originally Posted by Bella

Can someone enlighten me to the Mountbattens? I know they are closely linked to the BRF and Prince Charles was extremely attached to "Uncle" Louis Mountbatten, who was very close with PC's grandfather and grand uncles. And I know the Prince Phillip is related to them through is mother. Louis Mountbatten had two daughters, correct? Who did they marry? I know the name Knatchbull is linked to this family as well. And wasn't a young boy - a twin - also killed with Louis Mountbatten? Was this his grandson?

Thank you.

Lord Louis had three siblings - an elder brother who inherited their father's title of Marquis of Milford-Haven (his grandson now holds that title and his son was best man at the wedding of Philip and the Queen).

His elder sister married Prince Andrew of Greece and is the mother of Prince Philip so 'Dickie' was Philip's uncle.

His younger sister married the King of Sweden and became step-mum to the king's children.

The present Queen didn't issue the Letters Patent for Mountbatten but George VI did. As he had no sons at the time of the creation of his titles, and there was very little chance of a son, the Letters Patent allowed for the titles to pass through his daughters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_M...f_Burma#Titles

[BeatrixFan]

Louis Mountbatten was born Prince Louis of Battenberg, he was a grandson of Queen Victoria. His title later changed when George V got rid of all German titles for the British Royal Family. His sister was the Queen of Sweden. Louis had two daughters; Patricia and Pamela. The Queen made special Letters Patent so that Patricia would get Louis titles. He was assassinated in 1979 and his grandson was killed with him along with the boat boy and a few others. Patricia was on board but survived. That's a very quick run down - hope it helps!

[BeatrixFan]

My mistake on the LP. Thank the Lord for Chrissy!

[Zonk]

I am interested in learning more about Lord Louis Mountbatten...does anyone know of a good biography that they could recommend?

Many thanks!

[Elspeth]

Philip Ziegler's book Mountbatten is a good biography if you haven't already read it.

[Zonk]

Thanks Elspeth. I haven't and I will try to find it.