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Old 04-14-2014, 09:56 PM
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I think your dates are off a bit here.

There have been attempts to contest the succession, they just haven't been successful attempts. Even the Glorious Revolution itself can be seen as an attempt to contest the succession, made successful by the support of Parliament.
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:33 PM
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The words 'since parliament took control' were deliberate. What I meant to say, and appear to have said badly is that since parliament started to make the decisions no one has been able to successfully challenge the succession without parliament agreeing. The Glorious Revolution was led by parliament and thus not a challenge to parliament's right to make the decision but a decision by parliament. Thus since parliament took the right to decide the succession no one has successfully challenged parliament's right to make the decision.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:40 AM
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I don't know about Parliament picking Prince George to replace Edward VIII. It would be skipping several people - Bertie, Elizabeth, Margaret, Henry Duke of Gloucester and his future children. It doesn't seem that would be something that would be put up with by the establishment. Beside the need for a son had diminished by that time since it was a constitutional monarchy at that point and there had been several queen regents already unlike in medieval times where the lines of women were ignored.
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The idea to bypass the Duke of York, by doing so completely ignoring his rights as well those of Princess Elizabeth, Princess Margaret, their future offspring, as well that of the Duke of Gloucester and his future offspring, is so violating the Act of Settlement of 1701 that I doubt any Government or any Parliament was willing to enforce this and risking Pandora's Box being opened. Complete fiction, if you ask me.

The Reign of William III and Mary II can be compared with the result of an abdication. Of course, in this case the King (James II / James VII) has not abdicated but was deemed to have fled the country. The outcome however is the same: his natural successors (his daughter Princess Mary and his nephew/son-in-law William of Nassau, Prince of Orange) moved to the top position, later on their turn succeeded by King James' younger daughter, Princess Anne. So the "right to rule" in order of birth ultimately remained intact in this case.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:12 PM
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The idea of Prince George being chosen to replace Edward VIII isn't complete fiction - it was discussed at cabinet level - not in a formal cabinet meeting as far as I know but by cabinet ministers (one of whom was my great-uncle) and they rejected the idea but it most certainly was discussed.
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The idea of Prince George being chosen to replace Edward VIII isn't complete fiction - it was discussed at cabinet level - not in a formal cabinet meeting as far as I know but by cabinet ministers (one of whom was my great-uncle) and they rejected the idea but it most certainly was discussed.
Of course anything can be discussed by ministers, varying from the temperature of the tea at the cabinet meetings to the pimple on the nose of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

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Old 04-15-2014, 11:41 PM
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And there you have it, in a nutshell!
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