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Old 07-09-2010, 06:39 PM
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Were I was beginning to confuse myself is if a male appeared, such as in the scenario that Zonk used.

Elizabeth has daughters Anne and Alexandra. Anne becomes Queen then has two daughters, while Alexandra has two sons. I wasn't sure if the line of succession would change because there is a male grandson.

Thanks for the input...in my "what if scenario'..... I like the thought of Queen to Queen succession!
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:03 PM
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The line goes through one entire line before returning to a younger sibling so male grandsons of a younger child don't take precedence over female granddaughters of an elder child e.g. Edward's son James doesn't come before Andrew's daughters but James does come before his own older sister.
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Line of Succession as of today (updated Jan 2011)

With the arrival of the new Gloucester granddaughters the British Monarchy website has an updated Line of Succession.
A point of note is that the two young sons of the Roman Catholic convert Lord Nicholas Windsor remain in line at (current) positions 35 and 36.

THE LINE OF SUCCESSION

SOVEREIGN
1. The Prince of Wales
2. Prince William of Wales
3. Prince Henry of Wales
4. The Duke of York
5. Princess Beatrice of York
6. Princess Eugenie of York
7. The Earl of Wessex
8. Viscount Severn
9. The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
10. The Princess Royal
11. Mr. Peter Phillips
12. Miss Savannah Phillips
13. Miss Zara Phillips
14. Viscount Linley
15. The Hon. Charles Armstrong-Jones
16. The Hon. Margarita Armstrong-Jones
17. The Lady Sarah Chatto
18. Master Samuel Chatto
19. Master Arthur Chatto
20. The Duke of Gloucester
21. Earl of Ulster
22. Lord Culloden
23. The Lady Cosima Windsor
24. The Lady Davina Lewis
25. Miss Senna Lewis
26. The Lady Rose Gilman
27. Miss Lyla Gilman
28. The Duke of Kent
29. The Lady Amelia Windsor
30. The Lady Helen Taylor
31. Master Columbus Taylor
32. Master Cassius Taylor
33. Miss Eloise Taylor
34. Miss Estella Taylor
35. The Hon. Albert Windsor
36. The Hon. Leopold Windsor
37. The Lord Frederick Windsor
38. The Lady Gabriella Windsor
40. Princess Alexandra, the Hon. Lady Ogilvy

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Papal visit fuels calls to end ban on Catholic succession - Herald Scotland | News | Politics

The public is being urged to back a campaign to scrap a 300-year-old law which prohibits Catholics ascending the throne, ahead of Pope Benedict XVI’s visit to Britain next month.
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Well that's opening a barrel of monkeys, isn't it?
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Well that's opening a barrel of monkeys, isn't it?
I seriously don't see the public seeing this campaign as something to really get serious about at all nor do I see the papal visit as something people are going to turn out in droves to witness.

Maybe a barrel of monkeys would liven things up a wee bit?
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Isn't it an interesting thought, that Charles could change his religion to say Buddishm... or Camilla become a muslim, and the PoW would still inherite the throne .. but if one of them were catholic it would be a NoNo

Your thoughts on that please
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Could the heir to the throne change his faith?

I know its excluded, that the Heir could marry a catholic or be catholic.

BUT what about muslim? Hindu? or Jewish? (or what ever Religion..)

What do YOU think would happen, if...?

Could he marry a jewish wife? Could he become Buddist?
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:54 PM
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As far as I know British law only forbides those who are in the line of succession to the Throne to be or to marry a Catholic, but it doesn't say anything about other religions.
So I think that in theory, under a legal point of view, if the Heir to the Throne (or anyone else in the line of succession) converted to whatever religion, but not Catholicism, or married someone of another religion, but not Catholicism, then the conversion or the marriage would not affect his rights to the Throne.

But on the other hand this Heir to the Throne would one day be called to be Supreme Governor of the Church of England, once became Sovereign; and therefore the conversion could cause some issues.
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Well, I think that other people here will be able to explain the terms of the Act of Settlement which detail the rules on this subject, but as far as I know the Act simply forbids the monarch from being a Catholic or marrying one. That then leaves your question to be answered and I suppose technically provided the chosen religion wasn't Catholicism, then I cannot see what would stop the heir from choosing any other faith.

This subject is dealt with in another thread, but suffice to say that the conventions, rules and traditions of other faiths may themselves prevent the heir from living the life of a monarch or being head of the Church of England. For instance, as I understand it, Buddists lead very particular lives and for-go many if not all of lifes luxuries as their lives, beliefs and ways of living are very simple. Could such a simple life be lived within the walls of a palace?
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.. afaik is the ruling house of Thailand of Buddist believe.

I really don't know any religion (or non religion like communism) that has ever prevented powerseeking men to became a ruler
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A royal could change his or her faith if the laws or the constitution of their country doesn't forbid it. However, if you have an established church, this might cause some difficulty.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:24 PM
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The Act of Settlement besides excluding conversion to Roman Catholicism or marrying a Roman Catholic does also state that the monarch has to be a Protestant, so the monarch couldn't become a Muslim or a Buddhist.
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Then this also excludes an Orthodox British monarch.
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Then this also excludes an Orthodox British monarch.

I would say - 'yes' as the wording clearly says 'protestant'.
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Thank you Iluvbertie: because when s.o. is writing about the Act of Settlement, they allways say it's catholic .. so I wondered what about all the other possibilities :-)
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Thank you Iluvbertie: because when s.o. is writing about the Act of Settlement, they allways say it's catholic .. so I wondered what about all the other possibilities :-)

As all members of the BRF are raised as members of the CoE and are confirmed as such (with the exception of some of the Kents) there really isn't an issue with the actual heirs themselves, which is why the emphasis is on the faith of the person they marry and their own potential conversion. Most people ignore the latter part of the Act of Settlement that emphasises the 'protestant' nature of the position.

Earlier than the Act of Settlement was the Bill of Rights passed n 1689 which demands that the monarch take a coronation oath to maintain the protestant religion. This Bill also puts forth the bar on Roman Catholics and like the Act of Settlement is still in effect.
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Well, they list Sarah, Duchess of York as a member of the Royal Family....
And also the line of suession as the have the sons of Lord and lady Nochiolas Windsor in it.
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And also the line of suession as the have the sons of Lord and lady Nochiolas Windsor in it.

The difference with Lord and Lady Windsor is that Lord Windsor was born into the BRF. Sarah, Duchess of York married into the family and then left it by divorce.
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The difference with Lord and Lady Windsor is that Lord Windsor was born into the BRF. Sarah, Duchess of York married into the family and then left it by divorce.
I think the point that Stefan made is that because Lord Nicholas Windsor married a Catholic he is no longer in the line of succession and his children don't come into it at all. But the webpage obviously still list him...
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