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Old 08-05-2006, 08:58 PM
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.The next question is,will a Muslim girl convert to christianity?
It's not unheard of, check the archives of English newspapers and you will find stories of Muslims who have converted to christianity.
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:23 AM
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Anglican or Anglicanism is the sub-religion of Christianity and the Church of England is the Anglican Church.So the Church of England is not a religion by itself.In the earlier posts,some member has stated that the heir to the British throne are only not allowed to marry a Roman Catholic not a Muslim.
A person may not marry a Catholic and stay in the line of succession. However, in order to be king or queen regnant, a person has to be a communicant of the Church of England. Their spouse can be any other religion, just not Catholic. Whether the Archbishop would crown a Queen Consort who wasn't Christian is another matter, but a person can be Queen Consort without being crowned as far as I know.

William, as a member of the Church of England, could become King with a Methodist, Mormon, Muslim, Jewish, Pagan, Satanist, or atheist wife, just not a Catholic one. He himself has to be a member of the Church of England.
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:13 AM
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Anglican or Anglicanism is the sub-religion of Christianity and the Church of England is the Anglican Church.So the Church of England is not a religion by itself.In the earlier posts,some member has stated that the heir to the British throne are only not allowed to marry a Roman Catholic not a Muslim.
The only Act I know of that specifically deals with the issue of the religion/denomination of the royal family and their spouses is the Act of Settlement of 1701.

It only bars those who marry Roman Catholics and/or who convert to Roman Catholicism.

Any other Christian denomination is fine.

No other religion is banned as far as I know and if anyone knows of legislation to the effect that Muslims are banned could they please post a link to the Act in question.

The Queen making a suggestion to a member of her family (assuming that she ever made such a suggestion, which personally I doubt) is not the same as a law of the land and it is the law of the land that bars the Roman Catholics.
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Old 08-06-2006, 05:59 PM
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One of the provisions of the Act of Settlement is that the monarch shall be a communicant of the Church of England; it doesn't say that the spouse has to be one, it just says that the spouse shall not be Catholic.

This is the wording:


III. And whereas it is requisite and necessary that some further provision be made for securing our religion, laws and liberties, from and after the death of His Majesty and the Princess Anne of Denmark, and in default of issue of the body of the said Princess, and of His Majesty respectively; be it enacted by the King's most excellent majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same,

That whosoever shall hereafter come to the possession of this Crown, shall join in communion with the Church of England, as by law established;

http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/par...settlement.htm
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Old 08-06-2006, 06:52 PM
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Thanks for that Elspeth. It's interesting that it's strictly pointed out that they must be in communion with the Anglican Church which now has it's own unofficial subdivisions.

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A person may not marry a Catholic and stay in the line of succession.
That's true, however, if the spouse converts afterwards they stay in succession.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:59 AM
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I just read a very funny article about a proposed change to the rules of succession to the British throne and thought others might enjoy it as well:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...863743,00.html
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:18 AM
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I just read a very funny article about a proposed change to the rules of succession to the British throne and thought others might enjoy it as well:
Thanks Jo!
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In fact, so impressive is the success of Princess Anne and Zara Phillips in excelling at a tough chosen pastime (rather than just sitting around eating swan off diamond plates), I believe this is final proof that the British throne should pass down the female line. Why not make this constitutional change immediately?
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Old 09-03-2006, 09:23 AM
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Well, I have to say that it doesn't strike me as a bad idea until we get to Zara. Lovely girl but not Queen material. Her mother would be perfect but I adore her Uncle Charles and I think it's best if we stick to the rules.
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Old 09-03-2006, 09:44 AM
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Interesting article- and I like Volov's reponse too.
Yes - let's stick with Charles.
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Old 09-03-2006, 10:06 AM
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Nice article.
I love Princess Anne and agree she is a great Queen material. Had she been first-born... But all the same, Prince Charles is a terrific Prince of Wales and he will be equally terrific King.
As for Zara, I really like her but I don't think she can or wants to be a Queen. She is a free spirit, who does what she wants. Though Queen Zara does sound well.
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:04 PM
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We can't really rule out Zara. Zara wasn't brought up in preparation to be either the heir or the spare to the throne. Actually, she's quite a ways down on the list. Who knows how she would have been if she had been closer to the throne. Early on, Princess Anne wasn't very popular. People thought she was harsh and cold and a snob whose only interest was thoroughbred horses. Only in the past couple of decades has Anne stepped up as one of the hardest working no-nonsense royals who has garnered most everyone's respect. I think given a chance, Zara could prove herself worthy too.
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:12 PM
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Zara is certainly worthy, the best prove of which is her latest Gold Medal at Equestrian World Championship. She has worked hard and achieved excelent results.
In my private opinion though, she wouldn't like to be a Queen (even if she had chance, though looking at the Line of the Succession, it's a fat chance), since, imho, she is too free-natured and her interests are of the sport area.
Though, of course, since I don't know her personally, it's just a private opinion and may be completely wrong.
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:19 PM
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She's a good horsewoman but I don't think she'd ever be a good Queen.
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:35 PM
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She's a good horsewoman but I don't think she'd ever be a good Queen.
Isn't that what everyone said about George VI? If thats the way it was supposed to be, I am sure Zara would step up to the plate. In all fairness, she has spent her whole life on the sidelines with the thought that she would never be Queen, so its not fair to say based upon her life now..she wouldn't be a good Queen.

What do you think of a Queen Beatrice?
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:56 PM
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I think Zara is just too trendy to be a monarch. The piercing, the rugby boy friend - it just doesn't strike me as a good indication that she'd be good Queen material. Now Queen Beatrice could be quite wonderful. Especially if she married the Bismark boy.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:36 PM
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Do you think we will ever see a Queen Zara or Queen Beatrice
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:06 PM
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I doubt it very very much. Beatrice is more likely than Zara though.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:26 PM
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Beatrice is much more likely - that's a much more common and traditional English name.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:27 PM
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I think Beatrice moreso because she is 5th in line than Zara who is 11th.
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:52 AM
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Unless there is some unforeseen tragedy, I doubt Beatrice or Zara will ever become Queen. More-than-likely, Charles will reign for a short time and then William - for a longer time - and then William's son (or daughter). Unless, of course, the monarchy is abolished altogether somewhere down the road.
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