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Old 03-22-2012, 09:14 PM
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Initially I would expect there to be a change in opinion because Prince Charles has been demonized in the media for things that were only partially his fault.

I expect that things would then settle down as Charles proves himself to be a diligent monarch and there will be very little difference in support for a republic.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:23 PM
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But, when she is gone, things will, probably, change. When Charles, is king, many will defect. Not the same respect.

May I ask - 'defect' from what???
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:32 PM
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May I ask - 'defect' from what???
Yes, and defect to where?
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:09 PM
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I think you find people are more comfortable with Charles succeeding than say 6 years ago. Camilla is no longer the "Evil Witch".
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:17 PM
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More over, i think people realise that the succession is`nt a beauty contest. If we accept the institution of Monarchy then we must also accept it`s natural progression: Elizabeth to Charles to William and onwards. Skipping a generation for reasons of " popularity " is simply not an option.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:27 PM
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The only acceptable reason for skipping Charles would be if his health was compromised. Hopefully that would not happen.
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:39 PM
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When it comes to Charles acceding the throne I feel people miss the point. There is likely to be a huge outpouring of national grief when The Queen passes away. It's important not to underestimate how powerful that will be. Hundreds of thousands of people queued for days in order to file past the Queen Mother's coffin. The level of mourning for the Queen is likely to be a great deal deeper - the Queen is not only a much loved head of state, she's an international icon.

That national grief will, naturally, lead to a great deal of sympathy flowing to the RF generally, and Charles as the next in line.

There will also be a certain fascination in having a new monarch - the vast majority of Britons have only ever known one monarch. The process of new stamps, notes, coins, not to mention a coronation to look forward to. There's also the fact that Charles' reign is likely to be relatively short and William and Catherine will be closer to the throne while also having their own children who will, no doubt, fascinate us all in much the same way their parents have.

This is all a rather long winded way of saying I really don't believe that there will be any significant change to the British monarchy when Charles takes over. I think Charles will be a surprisingly popular King; he'll be at the 'sweet old man' age rather then in middle aged no mans land. It's an unfortunate fact of life nowadays; we see the young as interesting and cool, and the elderly as sweet and wise. It's the in between stage where people just aren't that interested.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:53 PM
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So true.

This is what happened in 1901 when there were questions raised about Edward VII's fitness and ability to be king but he rose to the occasion magnificently and ended up being a much loved monarch in his own right.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:37 PM
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I think you find people are more comfortable with Charles succeeding than say 6 years ago. Camilla is no longer the "Evil Witch".
Not according to the vast majority of comments posted by the public (unmoderated) in reponse to pretty much any article about C and C. It's easy to say that, on this moderated forum, people are warming to Camilla. It does not appear to be the case when you read the public reponses to published articles or on Youtube.

That being said, I think a lot of the popularity for the institution of the monarchy rests on the shoulders of the present monarch. Much depends on when she dies (may she live as long as QEQM) and who her heir is at the time and his level of popularity. Fate has proved itself capricious. In the past, members of the family have died in car crashes, plane crashes and been assisinated by the IRA. What is today may not be what is in 20 years.

Right now, William and Catherine are enjoying a white hot blaze of popularity. Long may it last!
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:41 PM
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Perhaps that's because those who are generally supportive or neutral in their attitude towards Charles and Camilla don't feel the need to comment on every single article dedicated to them? Only those who still hate them vehemently feel required to constantly leave negative comments.

I know that on more occasion than one I wanted to comment on articles about the couple, especially in DM, and either:
a) got discouraged because nothing would ever change the mind of the "haters"
b) my comments, if supportive in nature, were simply not published

Incidentally, I am and have always been a Diana fan.
However, I fail to see how respect and admiration for one person automatically results in haters and disregard towards another.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:58 PM
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Comment on Youtube are generally quite nasty no matter what the topic and as for DM comments well them to winge about everything.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:26 PM
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Do the British even like the royal family because videos leading to the royal wedding had most not caring that there was a royal wedding and that there is no need for them anymore.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:55 PM
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Do the British even like the royal family because videos leading to the royal wedding had most not caring that there was a royal wedding and that there is no need for them anymore.
No idea which videos you were watching but the thousands of people who lined the route to Westminster Abbey and back to Buckingham Palace would disagree that Britain does not care.
There is minimal support for a republic in this country, so they majority support must like something.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:14 PM
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Not according to the vast majority of comments posted by the public (unmoderated) in reponse to pretty much any article about C and C. It's easy to say that, on this moderated forum, people are warming to Camilla. It does not appear to be the case when you read the public reponses to published articles or on Youtube.
Ok lets take a look, for exemple the last DM article about Camilla

Duchess of Cornwall charms with reading of Gruffalo while Prince Charles perfects his slam dunk | Mail Online

About 100 comments and more :
-Of course some are pretty nasty and incredibly rude :most part from two camps : the "freeloader and taxpayer" one (and even the Queen usually receive some rude comments from this part) and of course your dear "Diana forever fanatics" camp.
-But surprise surprise a lot are also very positive and, oh more surprise, the BEST RATED one is "Lovely to see them both so happy at last ! They make a great couple and should have married years ago". Mmm hardly an anti-Camilla feeling isn't it ?

But maybe the Daily Mail readers comments is also a moderated place or, who knows, under the control of Clarence House...
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:19 PM
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But maybe the Daily Mail readers comments is also a moderated place or, who knows, under the control of Clarence House...
It is a moderator place, but you are right in pointing out that the general criticism for all royals generally comes from the "freeloader" camp or the "Die Hard Diana fans" that applies to all the royals, even The Queen. Some people are just too narrow minded to move on from the past and accept the future. This is the situation, this is how it's going to be, like it or lump it. I bet all the people in those camps wouldn't actually do anything to get rid of the monarchy, they just like the vent anger.
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Do the British even like the royal family because videos leading to the royal wedding had most not caring that there was a royal wedding and that there is no need for them anymore.
People don't always mean what they say.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:04 AM
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Do the British even like the royal family because videos leading to the royal wedding had most not caring that there was a royal wedding and that there is no need for them anymore.
More than 34 million people in the UK watched some or all of the Royal Wedding coverage on TV. That puts it in the top 10 most watched programmes in British TV history.

To put that in context, Downton Abbey is the biggest British TV hit for many years. And it gets 11 million viewers.

Add in the fact that it was a public holiday and in most of the country it was hot and sunny on 29 April. Millions of Brits took advantage of the extended break (which included 2 public holidays for Easter just before the wedding and 1 for May Day just after) and went abroad on holiday. I also know quite a few people who were at the beach at home etc (we get so few hot sunny days we have to take advantage). Oh, and the guts of 1 million people were on the streets of London to see it in person.

All in all, I'd say the British people were fairly interested in the wedding.
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Perhaps this article fits here;

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: 'Prince William is more popular than The Queen'
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People in Australia, Britain and Canada find the prospect of William taking over the throne far more appealing than the notion of a King Charles, according to a major survey of 5,520 people across the three countries by the respected Angus Reid polling organisation.

Around half the public – 51 per cent of Britons, 52 per cent of Australians and 47 per cent of Canadians - want the succession to skip a generation and jump to William.

Conversely, only 31 per cent of Britons, 17 per cent of Canadians and 13 per cent of Australians would prefer to see Charles ascend the throne.
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Interesting. As the combined population of the UK, Australia and Canada according to Google is 118.6 million that means the sample size represents 0.004% of the people.

And as Sir Humphrey pointed out in Yes Minister, a poll can get the answers it wants depending on the questions asked.
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Interesting. As the combined population of the UK, Australia and Canada according to Google is 118.6 million that means the sample size represents 0.004% of the people.
In a well-constructed poll, a sample of that size is more than large enough to get a valid measurement. 5,520 is actually quite a large sample for a single survey. For a population of 118.6 million, you could get away with a sample of a few more than a thousand and be within 3% 19 times out of 20. Of course, all that means is that if you asked every single person the same question, the results would probably be quite similar; as you mention, people might answer the same underlying question differently depending on how it's posed.
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