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Old 11-03-2013, 06:43 PM
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I thought Labour's were typically Pro-monarchy?
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:57 PM
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That's New Zealand Labour not British Labour.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:58 PM
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Definitely not - Labour Parties are left-wing, union oriented, workers parties - more likely to be republican.

In Australia when the Australian Communist Party closed down many of its members joined the Australian Labor Party as the most left-wing party left.

It was a previous Labor PM of Australia who was a major push behind Australia's referendum on becoming a republic and it is still Laobr policy here.

In the UK the Labour Party is the left-wing party while the Conservatives are the right wing - David Cameron is right wing while Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were left wing. Many of the British Labour MPs have spoken out on a republic and some of them even cross their fingers when taking the oath - and old fashioned idea that if you cross your fingers when making a promise/oath then your aren't really taking it or bound by it.
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Definitely not - Labour Parties are left-wing, union oriented, workers parties - more likely to be republican.

In Australia when the Australian Communist Party closed down many of its members joined the Australian Labor Party as the most left-wing party left.

It was a previous Labor PM of Australia who was a major push behind Australia's referendum on becoming a republic and it is still Laobr policy here.

In the UK the Labour Party is the left-wing party while the Conservatives are the right wing - David Cameron is right wing while Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were left wing. Many of the British Labour MPs have spoken out on a republic and some of them even cross their fingers when taking the oath - and old fashioned idea that if you cross your fingers when making a promise/oath then your aren't really taking it or bound by it.
That is nonsense only a small minority of Labour are republican. I think its only a handful in parliament. Ed Milliband is the most left wing Labour leader in years and is not a republican. None of the major political parties are republican. The only republican parties I can think of are the nationalist parties.
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Let's assume vaguely 30 million adults in the uk are royalists. Question: how many million adults in the u.s. would be royalists? More than 30 million? Interesting to think a u.s. number might not be far from one needed to be a viable presidential contender.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:00 PM
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Let's assume vaguely 30 million adults in the uk are royalists. Question: how many million adults in the u.s. would be royalists? More than 30 million? Interesting to think a u.s. number might not be far from one needed to be a viable presidential contender.
30 million in the UK and 30 million in the US is a different representation of the population though.

In the UK there's some 63 million people, so 30 million would be just under 50% of the population. In the US, there's some 317 million people, so 30 million is closer to 10% of the population - for it to be closer to half they'd have to have some 160 million royalists.
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Popularity of the Monarchy in the UK.

We may already have a thread for this, but I couldn't find it so this can be moved if necessary.

We get mentions of polls quite frequently relating to different aspects of the royal family and lately it's forcused a lot of the Cambridges. Here are some recent ones;

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The Monarchy promotes a sense of national identity in the UK - a new poll out today shows that 74% think the Monarchy defines Britishness.

(Today is 13.4.14)

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Additionally, another poll from the Sunday Times today shows that Brits think The Queen is the person who best represents the UK in 2014.

Yougov have a list of polls including what the Monarchy might be like in 2070 when Prince George is supposedly going to ascend the throne.
yougov.co.uk/pages/royal-family/
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:46 PM
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This wasn't a poll about the Monarchy but about "Britishness" and relates to 2013.

There is the best part of a page on it in the Times but I'm pushed at the moment to summarise it.

People surveyed were asked "Who embodies the nation today?"

In terms of members of the Royal Family:-

Queen 63%
Duke of Cambridge 57%
Prince Harry 42%
Duchess of Cambridge 41%

but then again.........

Richard Branson 45%
David Beckham 39%
Stephen Fry 36%
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Support for the Monarchy in the UK Here is the thread, I started it.
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Support for the Monarchy in the UK Here is the thread, I started it.
The poll wasnt about support for the monarchy so not sure??
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The poll wasnt about support for the monarchy so not sure??
The poll shows that 74% of people identify with the monarchy and it defines britishness. To define something you have to popular or be known for that thing. So I would say it has to do with the monarchy being popular, if it wasn't then people wouldn't identify with it. They'd ignore it.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:33 AM
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Not sure if agree with that Lumutqueen. In Australia the term "g'day" is meant to define us as Aussies, but I can say that none in my acquaintance use that term or indeed find it appealing. We don't ignore it. We know it is there and it is used by many. I think it is an australianism and I guess defines us for now. Wouldn't say it was popular with the majority of the population. Perhaps popular with the majority of those who are surveyed?

Who was surveyed and how many? Key questions I think.
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During President Obama Visit in Belgium someone of his Press service said that for the President there was only one Monarchy the British.
The other Kings are nice gentlemen born and raised in an unreality world !
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:45 AM
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During President Obama Visit in Belgium someone of his Press service said that for the President there was only one Monarchy the British.
The other Kings are nice gentlemen born and raised in an unreality world !
That only shows how ignorant he is. But that's hardly a surprise.
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That only shows how ignorant he is. But that's hardly a surprise.

LOLOLOLO, and this is what you get when you elect a president, yet he does have some good points, what I can't figure out yet! One thing I do know for sure about elected officials, they *Never* keep their promises in elections. Great comment!
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:23 AM
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During President Obama Visit in Belgium someone of his Press service said that for the President there was only one Monarchy the British.
The other Kings are nice gentlemen born and raised in an unreality world !
Well if that is the case, then I am quite happy to say that for me, there is only one presidency, the Irish. The other presidencies seem NOT to have particularly nice gentlemen as they appear to have been born and raised with unrealistic and undeserved ambition.
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