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Old 11-20-2003, 02:04 PM
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Okay. I knew that. I thought it was wrong.
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Old 11-20-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by justine@Nov 19th, 2003 - 10:11 pm
Hi...
I am curious to know where I can find this information at, and maybe more to read about it.  What was the source for your information?

As for it being a slap to the American forefathers to curtsey to a British (or any) sovereign...well the great thing about America-the freedom we have, to chose to curtsey or not to a foreign sovereign/dignitary/etc.

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Actually, the source of my information can't be pinned down. Just common sense and the fact that I'm a history professor. I did a good amount of research on this subject when I was in grad school.

It is awesome to have that freedom as an American. I think it is nice that other countries (like UKGBNI) can be understanding of why President Bush would refrain from bowing.

Sorry I can't give you and exact reference. But if I'm wrong, please let me know!
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Old 11-20-2003, 02:41 PM
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Wow, when did Prince Philip get all hunched over like that?
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:17 PM
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U.S. President George W. Bush and the first lady Laura Bush, look on during a service inside Westminster Abbey in London, Thursday Nov. 20, 2003, as American service personnel lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior. The President and his wife are staying at Buckingham Palace throughout their visit as guests of Britain's Queen Elizabeth. (AP Photo/Johnny Green, PA).
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:19 PM
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Escorted by curator Caroline de Guitant, first lady Laura Bush smiles as she tours a display of Faberge items in the Queen's Gallery inside Buckingham Palace in London, Thursday Nov. 20, 2003. Laura and President Bush are staying at the Palace as guests of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II while on a State Visit to Britain. The exhibition opens to the public from Friday. (AP Photo / Kirsty Wigglesworth/Pool)
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:20 PM
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U.S. first lady Laura Bush and Alma Powell, wife of U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell , take a close look at the 1914 Mosaic Egg in the Queen's Gallery of Buckingham Palace in London, November 20, 2003. Mrs. Bush and Mrs. Powell viewed various exhibits in the gallery, including the Faberge egg collection which will be unveiled to the public November 21. REUTERS/Jason Reed
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:21 PM
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U.S. first lady Laura Bush speaks to reporters while touring the Faberge collection at the Queen's Gallery at Buckingham Palace in London Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. President Bush is in Britain for a four-day state visit. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:22 PM
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:31 PM
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U.S. President George W. Bush, left, and first lady Laura Bush, right, pose for a photograph with Britain's Queen Elizabeth before the start of a dinner at Winfield House in London Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. President Bush is making a four-day state visit to Britain. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:33 PM
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:35 PM
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We're not so different, US first lady says of Queen, Prince Philip

LONDON (AFP) - US first lady Laura Bush admitted to being "slightly intimidated" by the grandeur of Buckingham Palace but said she and her husband had been put at ease when they discovered similarities between themselves and their hosts.

She told reporters that Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip had been gracious hosts and had made a middle-aged couple from Texas feel at home with their royal hospitality.

"I had a really good time being with both Her Majesty and His Royal Highness Prince Philip and the Prince of Wales, as well," Mrs Bush said.

"In many ways they tried to make us feel very comfortable and you can imagine that we're slightly intimidated," she said at the palace where she and US President George W. Bush are staying during their state visit to Britain.

"You can guess that someone from Texas might be a little amazed that they would find themselves staying at Buckingham Palace," she said.

Mrs Bush went on to say that she and the president had been pleasantly surprised to find they shared interests with the queen and the prince which had helped ease their nervousness.

"We like a lot of the same things," she said. "We have dogs that we love. We have two little horses on our ranch. So there are lots of things, a lot of similarities that we have."

The first lady also professed ignorance of the controversy surrounding a British tabloid newspaper's explosive revelation on Wednesday that one of its reporters had been able to get a job as a royal footman at the palace and worked there for two months prior to the state visit.

"I actually just read it in the newspaper," she said, adding that she didn't know if her husband had been told of the security breach which has led to an urgent review of palace hiring practices.

"If the president was informed, he failed to inform me," she said.

Asked whether she had been put off by large-scale protests against the visit and anti-American sentiment in Britain, Mrs Bush said she had seen many more pro-US demonstrators.

"I don't actually think the protests are near as large as everyone was predicting before we got here," she said, as a crowd estimated by police to be between 100,000 and 110,000 strong marched in protest.

"We've seen plenty of American flags. We've seen plenty of people who were waving to us, many, many more people, in fact than we've seen protestors."
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:37 PM
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U.S. President George W. Bush, left, welcomes Britain's Queen Elizabeth before the start of a dinner at Winfield House in London Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. President Bush is making a four-day state visit to Britain. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:43 PM
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Britain's Queen Elizabeth ® is welcomed by Sarah Farish, wife of U.S. Ambassador to Britain William Farish, as U.S. President George W. Bush looks on at a dinner in Winfield House in London, November 20, 2003. Bush hosted the dinner for the Queen at the official residence of the U.S. Ambassador, one night after a State Dinner hosted by the Queen for President Bush at Buckingham Palace. REUTERS/Jason Reed
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Old 11-20-2003, 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Binny@Nov 20th, 2003 - 4:43 pm
Britain's Queen Elizabeth ® is welcomed by Sarah Farish, wife of U.S. Ambassador to Britain William Farish.
I am assuming that Sarah Farish is a good friend of the Queen, as they are giving each other pecks on the cheek. The Queen only goes that to good friends and family.
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Old 11-20-2003, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by defalco@Nov 20th, 2003 - 1:33 pm
It is awesome to have that freedom as an American. I think it is nice that other countries (like UKGBNI) can be understanding of why President Bush would refrain from bowing.
There is no law in the United Kingdom stating that citizens must bow or curtsey to the Queen when they are introduced to Her Majesty. Until recently bowing or curtsying to the Queen or other members of the Royal Family was done out of tradition. Today, however, you're given the option of bowing or curtsying to Her Majesty. Basically if you don't want to, you don't have to.

Indeed none of the citizens of the Queen's other Realms, like Canada the most monarchist out of all the ex-British colonies, bow or curtsey to her, though they can if they want.

I recall when Nancy Regan visited the UK with her husband, she curtsied to the Queen on several occasions.

It is just personal choice.
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:37 PM
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U.S. President George W. Bush (L) greets Britain's Prince Charles to Winfield House in London, November 20, 2003 as first lady Laura Bush looks on. Bush hosted the dinner for the Britain's Queen Elizabeth at the official residence of the U.S. Ambassador, one night after a State Dinner hosted by the Queen for President Bush at Buckingham Palace. REUTERS/Jason Reed
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:38 PM
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:40 PM
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Britain's Queen Elizabeth ® is welcomed by Sarah Farish ©, wife of U.S. Ambassador to Britain William Farish (L), as U.S. President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush look on at a dinner in Winfield House in London, November 20, 2003. Bush hosted the dinner for the Queen at the official residence of the U.S. Ambassador, one night after a State Dinner that the Queen hosted for Bush at Buckingham Palace. REUTERS/Jason Reed
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:41 PM
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Sarah Farish does look a little enthusiastic! The Queen could hardly pull away from her kiss!

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Old 11-20-2003, 08:44 PM
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